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    miguelmm's Avatar Civis
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    Default Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: Crown of Aragon

    Warman222, are you planning to redo the faction? It would be great if you redo it with the quality you made the kingdom of Sicily.



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    Oops tried to reply to @ sschakal.

    The faction looks brilliant!

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    Visarion's Avatar Alexandros
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    Default Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: Crown of Aragon

    Quote Originally Posted by miguelmm View Post
    Warman222, are you planning to redo the faction? It would be great if you redo it with the quality you made the kingdom of Sicily.
    Or at least this daction should have access to Sicilian units...

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    One thing that always confused me about this faction is why some of the Almogavar units such as the marines and crossbowmen are so heavily equipped. I was under the impression that Almogavars were lightly equipped border raiders and skirmishers who wore barely any armor and mostly used javelins, spears and short swords. So I am just wondering why these units are so heavily armored and using crossbows, handguns and polearms instead of their traditional armaments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight2708 View Post
    One thing that always confused me about this faction is why some of the Almogavar units such as the marines and crossbowmen are so heavily equipped. I was under the impression that Almogavars were lightly equipped border raiders and skirmishers who wore barely any armor and mostly used javelins, spears and short swords. So I am just wondering why these units are so heavily armored and using crossbows, handguns and polearms instead of their traditional armaments?
    Generically speaking they were what you described. However they do become a little more "regular" troops as the time goes by...for their use as marines, check how they were employed in war galleys during the Sicilian wars. Their use of heavy armor and polearms does sound a bit off to me too, as they were always noted as light, or at least "agile". As for the handguns I'd have to investigate a little more.

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    Visarion's Avatar Alexandros
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    Default Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: Crown of Aragon

    I am sorry if bothering but I found this very nice depiction of the Battle of the Puig by Andreu Marcal de Sax and the units of the early era do not ressemble at all with the ones in his outstanding painting.

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    C'mon man, it's easy enough to check. It's a 1400's painting of a battle in the 1200's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcasm_pt View Post
    C'mon man, it's easy enough to check. It's a 1400's painting of a battle in the 1200's.
    Well, these frescos were painted in the late 13th century (commemorating the conquest of Mallorca, which had taken place that same century), the troops depicted in them still look cooler than many of the models seen in this preview thread.

    For instance, look at Guillem II of Montcada, his horse was protected with mail and we can still see that his tunic was richly ornamented (despite the limited skills of the medieval author).
    Compare that to the Lord of Montcada unit models from this preview... I say there's plenty of room for improvement, and it wouldn't be a sin to take a bit of artistic license, just to make the units look less lame.

    As for the Count of Urgell unit (and pretty much the rest of cavalry units), I don't think the person working on the models cared much about how they looked. Applying the same pattern to the whole model (even if the pattern is historically accurate) is simply lame. (The horse caparisons in the preview are really ugly, guys)

    I hope this was just a first draft, tbh.
    I'd put mail around horses' necks (although not necessarily all of them), add detailed ornamentation to knight tunics, restrict heraldic elements to just the shield (or part of it) and certain parts of tunics/horse caparisons, etc.
    That would look way cooler and wouldn't break historical accuracy.

    Serjeant units (late) are quite cool, though, I'd try to go towards that direction with knights as well.
    Last edited by Goreuncle; March 08, 2018 at 07:04 AM.

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    The units of the generals or at least, of the king should have tiers, I mean the first tier of the 13th century the second of the 14th and the third of the 15th century

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    Default Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: Crown of Aragon

    Any updates on the separation of the 2nd and 3rd tiers?

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    Default Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: Crown of Aragon

    Is there any specific reason why Aragonese Knights are called Hidalgos? I thought Hidalgos are non landowning Nobles. Wouldn't it be logical for them to also have Caballeros like Castille? Maybe you could do a sepperate unit of Hidalgos for the Iberian Kingdoms to represent the non landowning elite?



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    Old roster, Hispanian factions are in a dear need of update and harmonization

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    Quote Originally Posted by You_Guess_Who View Post
    Old roster, Hispanian factions are in a dear need of update and harmonization


    And i don't want to bother you but will we have news about that update any date soon??

    Thanks for your workˇˇ

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomtucker View Post


    And i don't want to bother you but will we have news about that update any date soon??

    Thanks for your workˇˇ
    Sure. Won't be soon however

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