Medieval Kingdoms Total War: Second Bulgarian Tsardom

[lion8000]

What about Varna and Vidin dose city's were very important.

[finix]

What about Varna and Vidin dose city's were very important.

You probably have not played Attila TW. These are the cities that we can use ... without changing their location and boundaries of districts http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-Master-Thread
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[lion8000]

Sorry about that. Maybe you could add some Bulgarian royal cavalry units or something like that, every will look different, because they will be at different tier (early, high, late). And the Bulgarian swordsman and spearman units will look much cooler if they have boots.

[Nazgul007]

As I can see the settlement of Scopie is under Bulgarian rule,if we follow history doesn't belong to the Serbians as their capital city?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdo...bia_(medieval)

[+Marius+]

if we follow history doesn't belong to the Serbians as their capital city?

Not until a couple decades after the start date.

[Slepeca]

Dear god ,this guy.

[Slepeca]

Just reading the wiki article about Theodore Svetoslav of Bulgaria ,and in his expansion chapter it's written that he was able to win over alan mercenaries from the Byzantines ,and settle them in his lands ,but wasn't able to win over the catalan company on his side (merceneries) ,these statements don't have citations to them ,but could you add them as some sort of mercs to the balkans ,and moreover Byzantine and Bulgarian lands,it would add a little more depth to the bulgarian roster.

[lion8000]

You should add an tier 1 unit like the Nicean Spatharioi, you could call it Tsarevetz guard or something like that. The guard of tier 1 Bulgarian Tsar/emperor should be like that of the Nicean emperor.

[lion8000]

If there will be fleets in this mod, then you should add an river fleet to the Bulgarian empire. Yesterday I've watched the History with Bogidar Dimitrov and he was talking about the Bulgarian river fleet. He said that the Bulgarian fleet was in Byzantine style, some of the ships were so big that they were carrying cavalry. The Bulgarian river fleet acted mainly in Danube river and was able to make ambushes.

[lion8000]

You should add Men at Arms to the tier 3 Bulgarian roster. The armor of the Bulgarian heavy archers look unfinished, maybe you could make their armor like the Trebizond archers and their shields could look similar to those of the Bulgarian heavy spearman.
The Bulgarian roster must have Kievan mercenaries. In the late 14th century an kievan Kniaz was in service to the Bulgarian emperor.

[Ltd.]

I mentioned earlier that I want to redo the bulgarian roster and their armor, so no worries. We´ll get there.
As a matter of fact I am doing a high era bulgarian boyar like this http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Mk7d-uKB6M...xander1col.jpg as I am writing this message ...

[Slepeca]

I know that ,i just openly put ideas for units and things like that ,for you to see them and think about ,not saying that you should do them in moment's notice . :V Sorry for being annoying ,but it's exiting to see that our country is gonna be featured in a good looking mod once ,after so many fails .

[lion8000]

this is an high era boyar with an double headed eagle.

[Ltd.]

Let´s get a taste of the new bulgarian outfits ...

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[Slepeca]

Sexy as hell ! These were the late bolyar units ,right ?And also . Can you link me the old thread where you first discussed the possibility of the late bulgarian armour being plate and more westernised (I think it was back in the old Tsardom Mod thread/forum.)? So i can get from where you got the idea for the armour.I remember some bits of that conversation ,but not all of them (It was a long time ago),i remember that one of the arguements supporting the thesis ,that the late bulgarian armour was westerinsed ,was the weapons embargo that Stefan Dusan of Serbia put on us ,and we respectively bought the stockpiles of weapons we needed , through trade with venetians,dubrovnik and geonese merchants ,and another arguements that supported it ,were the western weapons and armour that were found in Tsarevets and other places in Bulgaria ,through excavation .

[lion8000]

http://terrazagora.blogspot.bg/2014/08/xiv.html?m=1

[lion8000]

I thought that the tier 1 tsar guard will have more Byzantine look.

[Ltd.]

Sexy as hell ! These were the late bolyar units ,right ?And also . Can you link me the old thread where you first discussed the possibility of the late bulgarian armour being plate and more westernised (I think it was back in the old Tsardom Mod thread/forum.)? So i can get from where you got the idea for the armour.I remember some bits of that conversation ,but not all of them (It was a long time ago),i remember that one of the arguements supporting the thesis ,that the late bulgarian armour was westerinsed ,was the weapons embargo that Stefan Dusan of Serbia put on us ,and we respectively bought the stockpiles of weapons we needed , through trade with venetians,dubrovnik and geonese merchants ,and another arguements that supported it ,were the western weapons and armour that were found in Tsarevets and other places in Bulgaria ,through excavation .

They are actually the high era units and the reason is that it would be disproportionate to see units of other western European factions run around in coats of plates and brigandine, while the bulgarian nobles and heavy units would only wear maille. Fot the late era, which is after 1430 - 1440 , I'll think about something else .
I'm not sure however if I understood correctly what discussion you mean regarding the plate armor. I was not part of the tsardoms mod

I thought that the tier 1 tsar guard will have more Byzantine look.

And what exactly makes the depictions on your picture more byzantine looking compared to my screenshot ?

[Slepeca]

I wasn't talking specifically about plate armour ,i just used it as a means of describing western armour in that era ,as you can see later in my comment ,i only say western ,i intentionally stopped saying plate armour ,because that wasn't the main point of the conversation i was talking about. As for the threads i was talking about ,i think i found them .http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...medieval-elite http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-Armies/page17

[lion8000]

May picture is for the high era, at the early period the Bulgarian armament is like the Byzantine. In the Bulgarian tsardom craftsman were very good at coloring leaders and cloths. Because of its position as road between west and east Bulgaria has approach to rayon. In medieval Bulgaria as richer you are, so more colorful are your clouds, that's why the brown color is very unlike for Bulgaria. The red color represents the might of the tsar, that's why his shield should be red. I really like the new units, but in the high era the boyars don't wear boots, they have armor like the western knights. With is as good as those of every western fraction. I mean that they should have armor on their feet, the same is with that cool looking infantry unit: It looks great but there feet aren't armored. See the pictures that finix presented.