Ironborn Claims Thread

[Poach]

High Lordships:

Iron Islands

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:  Pyke - House Greyjoy --- Iron Holt - House Wynch --- Seagrave - House Humble --- Codd Hall - House Codd --- City of Lordsport - Grantable title - High Reeve of Lordsport --- Axefirth - House Bottley Saltcliffe - House Saltcliffe --- Saltford - House Sunderly Harlaw Hall - House Harlaw --- Hangmyre - House Myre --- Grey Garden - House Harlaw of Grey Garden --- The Tower of Glimmering - House Harlaw of The Tower of Glimmering --- Harridan Hill - House Harlaw of Harridan Hill --- Stonetree - House Stonetree --- Volmark - House Volmark --- Shield Row - House Kenning Orkwatch (Orkmont) - House Hoare --- Nettlebank - House Orkwood Blacktyde - House Blacktyde Drumm Tower (Old Wyk) - House Drumm --- Nagga's Hill - House Netley --- Shatterstone - House Goodbrother of Shatterstone --- Seastone Hill - House Shepherd --- Stonehouse - House Stonehouse Hammerhorn (Great Wyk) - House Goodbrother of Hammerhorn --- Faroar - House Sparr --- Crowspike Keep - House Goodbrother of Crowspike Keep --- Castle Pebbleton - House Merlyn --- Downdelving - House Goodbrother of Downdelving --- City of Pebbleton - Grantable title - High Reeve of Pebbleton --- Sealskin Point - House Farwynd of Sealskin Point --- Corpse Lake - House Goodbrother of Corpse Lake Lonely Light - House Farwynd of Lonely Light

Incomes:

Iron Islands

Rich Provinces (60,000 Golden Dragons): Pyke Harlaw Very Prosperous Provinces (50,000 Golden Dragons): Orkwatch (Orkmont) Hammerhorn (Great Wyk) Drumm Tower (Old Wyk) City of Pebbleton City of Lordsport Prosperous Provinces (40,000 Golden Dragons): Blacktyde Saltcliffe Lonely Light Stonetree Volmark Castle Pebbleton Sealskin Point Poor Provinces (30,000 Golden Dragons): Iron Holt Seagrave Codd Hall Axefirth Saltford Hangmyre Grey Garden The Tower of Glimmering Harridan Hill Shield Row Nettlebank Nagga's Hill Shatterstone Seastone Hill Stonehouse Faroar Crowspike Keep Downdelving Corpse Lake

Levy:

Iron Islands - Total Levy = 30,500 points

Large Levy (3,500 points): Pyke Orkwatch (Orkmont) Medium Levy (1,500 points): Harlaw Hammerhorn (Great Wyk) Drumm Tower (Old Wyk) Blacktyde Saltcliffe Lonely Light Small Levy (1,000 points): Stonetree Volmark Castle Pebbleton Sealskin Point Very Small Levy (500 points): City of Pebbleton City of Lordsport Iron Holt Seagrave Codd Hall Axefirth Saltford Hangmyre Grey Garden The Tower of Glimmering Harridan Hill Shield Row Nettlebank Nagga's Hill Shatterstone Seastone Hill Stonehouse Faroar Crowspike Keep Downdelving Corpse Lake

Levy per High Lord

6,000 Points: Greyjoy Harlaw Goodbrother 4,000 Points: Hoare 3,500 Points: Drumm 2,000 Points: Saltcliffe 1,500 Points: Farwynd Blacktyde

There's your list, including vassals, levy and income. Naval levy might change as well to deal with a new 3 tier system but you're exceptionally unlikely to face enemy navies in the scenario anyway and I intend to try to make any changes without making any Lords more or less powerful than they used to be. Exact levy compositions listed above may also change slightly for balance purposes if necessary.

This is a claims thread only, not a sign up thread.

As I understand it the current proposal is that every High Lord is a Petty King of their own island, therefore Greyjoy, Harlaw, Drumm and Goodbrother are, at present, the most powerful Houses to be. Saltcliffe, Hoare, Blacktyde and Farwynd would also be Petty Kings (unless I'm mistaken) but would be weaker. I don't know if, at this stage in the lore, Hoare is meant to command more power, so they might end up made stronger?

Either way, time isn't on our side, really. If we want a decent week or two out of this we need to start before Christmas takes us all away to families and RL duties.

Claims - By House

High Lords
(Claims in Bold are finalised)

Greyjoy - Pontifex Maximus
Harlaw - Skylord
Goodbrother - Lucius Malfoy
Drumm - Iron Aquilifer
Hoare - Oznerol
Saltcliffe - Vernon Roche, Iron Aquilifer, Xion
Farwynd of Lonely Light - Iron Aquilifer, Jacb547
Blacktyde - Iron Aquilifer, Jacb547

Minor Lords
(Minor Lords are first come first served)

Bottley - Jacb547
Merlyn - Poach
Goodbrother/Harlaw Cadet Branch or Volmark - Xion
Goodbrother of Crowspike Keep - Skylord
Stonetree - Narf

Claims - By Player

Vernon Roche - Saltcliffe
Pontifex Maximus - Greyjoy
Lucius Malfoy - Goodbrother
Eredin - Drumm
Skylord - Harlaw, Goodbrother of Crowspike Keep
Oznerol - Hoare
Iron Aquilifer - Drumm, Saltcliffe, Farwynd, Blacktyde
Jacb547 - Bottley, Farwynd, Blacktyde
Xion - Saltcliffe, Volmark, cadet branches of Goodbrother/Harlaw
Narf - Stonetree

[Pinkerton]

Responsability is not my thing. I rather claim House Saltcliffe

[Pontifex Maximus]

House Greyjoy

tired of playing second fiddle.

[Lucius Malfoy]

House Goodbrother of Hammerhorn

(Dropping claim on House Hoare)

[Gandalfus]

Drumm

[The Mad Skylord]

Greyjoy, Goodbrother or Harlaw

[Iron Aquilifer]

Drumm, Saltcliffe, Farwynd, Blacktyde

[jacb547]

Bottley, Farwynd or Blacktyde in no particular order. Also thinking about making a landless char too.

[Poach]

As the only Bottley at the moment you'd get them without any negotiation: there's enough minor Lords that first come first served is generally how I intend to run it.

It's really only High Lords that I'll be asking for negotiation or rolls on, though at the moment the 3 big ones seem to have 1 player interested in just 1 each with Skylord putting in for all 3. That puts you at a bit of a disadvantage Skylord, it's more difficult to mandate rolls on people who've asked for only 1 House and asked ahead of you.

[Xion]

Saltcliffe, Wynch, Goodbrother of Corpse Lake. Tentative, may change tomorrow.

[Lucius Malfoy]

Saltcliffe, Volmark, or one of the cadet branches of Goodbrother/Harlaw. Tentative, may change.

Downdelving, Corpse Lake and Shatterstone are still available with Skylord's updated claim for Crowspike Keep.

[The Mad Skylord]

I'll take Harlaw, and drop all other claims.

I'd also like to claim House Goodbrother of Crowspike Keep.

[Dirty Chai]

I feel like because you have set, hereditary High Lords, this is just going to be a game of High Lords vs High Lords, and the minor lords are just expected to serve their High Lords loyally..
Not interested in that at all..

[Lucius Malfoy]

I feel like because you have set, hereditary High Lords, this is just going to be a game of High Lords vs High Lords, and the minor lords are just expected to serve their High Lords loyally..
Not interested in that at all..

Some of the minor lords like Saltcliffe, Hoare, Blacktyde and Farwynd of Lonely Light will be independent and petty kings themselves, Dan. Just not as powerful. Except we are discussing the possibility of buffing the Hoares.

[Poach]

Alright we've got most of the major HLs down to 1 player per House. I've PM'd Eredin and IA about getting Drumm nailed down as well. The three more minor HLs I'll tackle once Drumm is set in stone.

BF: Levies are built to try to balance the 4 larger HLs while not going much beyond 30,000 points in total. Levies are also far less important now due to the levy rule changes.

[Dirty Chai]

I guess I'll claim Orkwood of Nettlebank

[Poach]

I personally plan to use my Minor Lord to do a fair bit of independent pirating and possibly conquest. I don't think there's ever even been an expectation that the minor Houses on Great Wyk, for example, are expected to vote for House Goodbrother during Kingsmoots.

With the focus having shifted from Levies to Militias and Professionals, even Minor Lords can produce a decent fighting force now.

Point caps are 1.5k for Minor and 3k for High Lords, with Militias capped only by the buildings and edicts.

[Dirty Chai]

Honestly, I'd actually suggest just evening out the incomes a bit more. The levies of Pyke and Harlaw (the whole islands) can be nerfed just a tad, but there's no getting around Hammerhorn being the biggest island, though I guess you could make them weaker too through a more rural population argument.

[Dirty Chai]

Yeah, you ninja'd me, I get you now.

The incomes though? Are those going to be changed?

[Narf]

Well I guess I'll take Stonetree.