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    Default Campaign too easy?

    I'm at the half of my english campaign and I find that it so easy, so damn boring. And I'm palying at VERY HARD!!! Each time my enemies try to attacck me the only come with a lot of ridicolous militia unitis, and lots of mercenary crossbowman, if I am lucky some dismounted feudal knights. I think that the cost of the advanced upgrade for the casteles is too high so the IA is never able to reach them.

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    I don't know, but I must be playing this game wrong, since I'm being challenged at Medium.
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    same it is to easy.. most of ai dont even garrison there castle maybe it 10x easier to conquer.

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    I HEAVILY disagree. I play at medium and find the AI composition is PERFECTLY true to history. Most armies are full stacks, with more light infanty, a lot of heavy infantry but not as much and archers and cavalry. I have yet to see spammed units or an army which isn't balanced between heavy and light infantry. Next english campaign I'm definitely playing on hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H_man View Post
    I HEAVILY disagree. I play at medium and find the AI composition is PERFECTLY true to history. Most armies are full stacks, with more light infanty, a lot of heavy infantry but not as much and archers and cavalry. I have yet to see spammed units or an army which isn't balanced between heavy and light infantry. Next english campaign I'm definitely playing on hard.
    Uhm no ..
    i usualy defend the game but sometimes the AI comes with realy stupid armies
    well not as stupid as in MTW but stupid sometimes
    You ask for steak, I bring you fish. You say that you think steak is better than fish. I say that fish is much more popular than steak so obviously it's better. You say that no matter how good the fish is it can't be better at being steak than the actual steak we used to serve. I say that's just your perception and you're entitled to it but you should accept that fish is the future and that's good. You begin to say something but I stab you in the eye with a fork and run into the kitchen.

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    I think the AI is very difficult.
    As the Danish I slowly was able to conquer the HRE. But as soon as I stopped to take a breather and build up my cities I was attacked by the Polish and Sicilians. The AI always has full stacks in their cities and rarely do I see an easy army to prey upon. I had to return to h/h in order to even survive my next campaign and I could easily beat RTW with Numidia on Vh/Vh.
    I think the AI has improved greatly.
    Last edited by Itilas; November 26, 2006 at 02:12 PM.
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    I find the AI overall is good but with a few problems here and there. Nothing serious though. The campaign is still just that bit to easy. Too many cities. RTW:BI had it spot on with less cities and more open country battles when every victory went a long way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wurfspiess View Post
    Uhm no ..
    i usualy defend the game but sometimes the AI comes with realy stupid armies
    well not as stupid as in MTW but stupid sometimes
    I'm not the defending the game, as it does little to affect me as to whether this is a good game or not. I disliked RTW but does that mean I need to bash M2TW? I'm simply stating that the observations made by the original poster are not conclusive nor similar with my observations. Should someone do a scientific survey of all the armies in their game to see who is right? Army composition is the best it's ever been, and I have had yet to see a stupid or poorly planned army. You don't have to outright say "uhhmmm No" as if I'm a mindless CA loving cyborg with no credibility nor intellectual capacity whatsoever. I was simply stating observations.

    Additionally, unlike RTW or MTW I find in M2TW the AI makes almost no peasant units. To date I have found or seen only two units of peasants all together in the whole game in my English campaign.
    Last edited by H_man; November 25, 2006 at 11:49 PM. Reason: adding material not neccessary for another post...

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    its challenge, i like it

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    I've noticed half-peasant armies against England, but it makes sense as I cut my trade rights with them (I'm the richest and baddest in the land). When a faction has alot of money, its armies tend to reflect that. A big reason the player will tend to have better armies is he usually doesn't have them annihilated, forcing him to not be able to build another nice economy building upgrade.

    An easy solution to the too-many-cities would be a mod which limited the economic viability of most settlements a.k.a you could only build certain population-increasing building in certain provinces.
    Last edited by DavidtheDuke; November 25, 2006 at 04:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sommo James View Post
    I'm at the half of my english campaign and I find that it so easy, so damn boring. And I'm palying at VERY HARD!!! Each time my enemies try to attacck me the only come with a lot of ridicolous militia unitis, and lots of mercenary crossbowman, if I am lucky some dismounted feudal knights. I think that the cost of the advanced upgrade for the casteles is too high so the IA is never able to reach them.
    I'm Venice at VH/VH and I'm getting my ass soundly kicked...the turning point was when I attempted to rush my main army by sea in a weak fleet to Ragusa to rescue it from siege and my fleet got sunk by the HRE.

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    I like the AI army composition... it feels right. I'm not denying there are probably a few bugs that cause the AI to create a rubbish army, but on the whole, it seems very good. The only nations who create whole armies of fantastic troops are me (the savage blood thirsty warlord, intent on owning the whole of europe) and the mongolians and timurids. This feels right to me. I'm not a history buff or anything, but for the rest of the countries, I'd imagine for every one nobleman in a suit of armour, he'd have enough money to have 100 people working for him, who he could equip with basic weaponry and armour in times of crisis.

    I think the main issue here, isn't enemy army composition as such, its that there are some incredibly talented players out there, who need there to have a skill level much harder than is currently availiable. It seems stupid there isn't one, all they have to do is fiddle with a few numbers to give the AI more bonuses. It should be like civ4, with loads of different levels, where the hardest level is pretty much impossible for even the best players.

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    you want hard? Play one of the Byzantines... Backstabbing Venetians... Hungarians... And the Turks with their arrows... Not to mention somehow getting a Jihad called on Constantinople even though the population is 94% Orthodox and the remaining 6% is Catholic... So yeah..

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    Well England is not a very hard faction to play as. I played them on medium and the campaign was still challenging with Demark and France on my ass. I'm playing the French right now on hard difficulty and it's the hardest campaign I've ever played because I have England, Holy Roman Empire, Milan, Spain, Portugal, and Eygpt all at war with me. I'm being hit on all sides here but that makes my victories that more enjoyable.

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    I'm working on HRE VH/VH now and I'm usually using worse units that than AI... AI's a couple steps ahead in tech. Harder to get economy going as HRE. Rely more on tactics on battlefield to overcome larger #s and better units. I can still get AI asking for peace... and when they do, I ask for regions... so not bad anyway.

    Interestingly, I'm at about turn 40 or so and managed to hold alliances with about half my neighbors. I use "check points" to limit friendly and neutral AI access to my regions, which seems to work well. Am using crusades to get AI to attack enemy factions.

    Less boring than Spain VH/VH... cuz it's a bit harder... but since this is my 2nd campaign, have improved gameplay so really not that hard.

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    Where the hell are these peasant armies and militia units armies that suck? If they are out there I would like to meet them. I have lost twice as the Portugese on medium/medium. Spain beat me twice with balanced armies and a little luck that went awry for me. The first time I waited too long to kill them, the second time I had them on the ropes by 1100. Right as I was about to take their last settlement my general revolted with my best army and Spain then surged out of Toledo with their full stack to take Cordoba and Granada. The Rebel Army attacked Valencia and France piled on with a stack nand a half of their own guys which they used to take out Pamplona and Zaragosa. At that point I just gave up. I seriously am so pissed at myself right now for not paying attention to my General's loyalty, that I am not even going to play this game until the patch comes out or maybe even longer. I was so heartbroke at having wasted 5 hours of my life in the dream of uniting Iberia that I just can't stomach starting again with a new faction, especially because all the other ones have either bad units or craptacular starting positions. I kinda wanted to play as either Milan or Venice, but damn, they just have enemies everywhere. I also want no part of the Mongol Invasion, so great, now that means I really shouldn't bother to play the game, because it seems like i lose no matter what. If I can't handle playing as Portugal then I have no business playing as anyone else really, lol. Guess I'll go play Oblivion or something to get my mind off of TW games for a bit until I cool off.

    So please, where is this supposed easy campaign at? I have to believe that i am either horribly inept at this game or some of you are outright lying about totally pwning this game on VH/VH.
    Last edited by (insert clever name here); November 25, 2006 at 11:17 PM.
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    To easy? I wish

    I'm playing as england and have a firm grasp on the main land with around 7 cities under my control there. The Milanese have conquered the french and the danish the HRE. I'm at war with both. I'm allied with the Portuguese but they are being a real help at the moment. I have no idea where the Milanese are pumping all these troops out but they are. I can't keep up.

    Edit: Oh not to mention the plague which ravaged all my cities and killed 1/2 my generals and the inquisitors who trot around killing everything in sight.

    In conclusion I hate the Milanese and the danish.

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    I find the game more challenging on hard campaign difficulty then very hard, the AI seems to have less of a backstabbing element (though I have altered diplomacy values as well) and every time I make a new enemy they surround me in a few turns with an alliance (as Milan I angered Venice, so France, the HRE, Hungary, and Sicily were their targeted allies). After hard fighting I kicked the HRE empire out of Italy, and, seeing they were under pressure from Denmark and Poland, offered them a place as my vassal, which they accepted (for a small nominal fee of 25000 gold).

    This turned things my way for a while, but sending my army on crusade led to 6 full stacks of french armies crossing the border and besieging milan and genoa, thus ending our newly formed alliance, while Hungary, anxious to keep faith with the pope, merely looked on asked for trade rights.

    In short try playing a faction that isn't at the edge of the map with the strongest defensive position of the game. The english are meant to be easy to play, they eliminate scotland and they have 7 or so provinces that no one else touches (as no one near them has a naval AI tendency).

    Try a more central faction and see how it goes, and, if you have been giving in to temptation and using cheats, force yourself not to, cheats are called cheats because they allow people to win without trying.
    (If you haven't been cheating move on to a more challenging faction, preferably a central europe one, or even the turks).

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    I don't think so. I'm currently playing as the English on M/M and it took me about 50 turns to completely eliminate the Scottish, add another 30 for The Holy Roman Empire (when I was constantly besieged on all sides by every other Catholic faction) and at turn 160 I have yet to even step into the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livia View Post
    I don't think so. I'm currently playing as the English on M/M and it took me about 50 turns to completely eliminate the Scottish
    ... took 50 turns to take over edinburgh?

    and i agree with the topic creator, right now all of the nations i've been warring with has thrown militia heavy armies at me. France, Spain, Denmark, HRE.. oh and my favorite is the full stack of Milanese militia that attacked Milan. my longobwmen had a field day

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