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    Default I get bored with my ERE Campagin

    Hello everyone, i create this post because i begin a campaign in the hard difficulty with East Roman Empire and i get really bored. There is not challenge, every factions are just making peace with me or the hordes which are in war with me and on my territory didn't attack my colonies, it's the same for the non hordes.

    Do you have an idea for improving my campaign and having a real challenge?

    Here are my mods:

    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=521494479
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=434901172
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=470183240
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=396946794
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=525237805
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=397702588
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=441530692
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=446960438
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=483773374
    http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=443342933

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    Default Re: I get bored with my ERE Campagin

    Declare war on everyone you don't want to have peace with
    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Arcturus Mengsk View Post
    Declare war on everyone you don't want to have peace with
    Hahaha, i prefer something more real ^^

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    Well historically the ERE at this time period had it fairly well, because the majority of migrating hordes hit the WRE hard.

    They had some troubles here and there but they survived unscathed and went on to reconquer a large piece of the former WRE lands that fell to the hordes for a time at least.

    Don't forget that the ERE still stood for 1000 years after Attila's time frame.

    I think if those hordes decided to head towards the ERE instead the WRE could have probably survived into the medieval times!
    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Arcturus Mengsk View Post
    Well historically the ERE at this time period had it fairly well, because the majority of migrating hordes hit the WRE hard.

    They had some troubles here and there but they survived unscathed and went on to reconquer a large piece of the former WRE lands that fell to the hordes for a time at least.

    Don't forget that the ERE still stood for 1000 years after Attila's time frame.

    I think if those hordes decided to head towards the ERE instead the WRE could have probably survived into the medieval times!
    Yeah but they were having trouble otherwise, they should help WRE.

    I don't even have problems with the Sassanids.

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    Anyone has an idea of mods? Or maybe put in very hard?

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    You have bunch of "cheat" mods(IMHO) and complain about no challenge. It's already possible with the default 4unit garrison to defend against full stack, it also removes the point of strategical placement of garrison buildings against the places you know will have a lot of tough fighting. You buff your religion, you buff of having tons of governors that boost your regions/growth and PO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmas View Post
    You have bunch of "cheat" mods(IMHO) and complain about no challenge. It's already possible with the default 4unit garrison to defend against full stack, it also removes the point of strategical placement of garrison buildings against the places you know will have a lot of tough fighting. You buff your religion, you buff of having tons of governors that boost your regions/growth and PO.
    The question is not about these buff (which ennemies also have), te problem is that nobody attacks me, or when they did it, they did not take my cities. I have the impression that everyone want to be at peace with me. Even the Huns ask for peace...

    Also the IA of hordes which are my ennemies inside my Empire did nothing, not attacking...

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    I didn't find the ERE campaign too easy. I find the Sassanids, Lakhmids, Tanukhids, Armenians and other eastern factions all declare war on me and send stack after stack to attack me. I am also being attacked by the Garamantes in North Africa, as well as constant invasions by barbarian hordes in the Balkans. I can hold the Balkans and hold the east, but I'm struggling to hold back the Garamantes due to lack of money. It doesn't help that many of my eastern towns in Palestine have been sacked by invaders who came out of nowhere, giving me no time to prepare.

    I did play a campaign where i managed to get peace with the east for most of the game once, but sooner or later they are going to attack no matter what you do, it's only a matter of time. I found it hard to keep the east together, although at least possible. It's certainly easier than the west, but I wouldn't say it's boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy1204 View Post
    I didn't find the ERE campaign too easy. I find the Sassanids, Lakhmids, Tanukhids, Armenians and other eastern factions all declare war on me and send stack after stack to attack me. I am also being attacked by the Garamantes in North Africa, as well as constant invasions by barbarian hordes in the Balkans. I can hold the Balkans and hold the east, but I'm struggling to hold back the Garamantes due to lack of money. It doesn't help that many of my eastern towns in Palestine have been sacked by invaders who came out of nowhere, giving me no time to prepare.

    I did play a campaign where i managed to get peace with the east for most of the game once, but sooner or later they are going to attack no matter what you do, it's only a matter of time. I found it hard to keep the east together, although at least possible. It's certainly easier than the west, but I wouldn't say it's boring.

    For me, only the Garamantes attack me, but first time they take a city, they just sack it....

    And now, they siege one of my cities with walls for few turns when they are sure to won the siege and just leave the siege with no reason...

    The others one at are peace with me...

    Got the Ostrogoth in horde mod in my empire, despite the fact taht they are my ennemies, they do nothing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maexim View Post
    For me, only the Garamantes attack me, but first time they take a city, they just sack it....

    And now, they siege one of my cities with walls for few turns when they are sure to won the siege and just leave the siege with no reason...

    The others one at are peace with me...

    Got the Ostrogoth in horde mod in my empire, despite the fact taht they are my ennemies, they do nothing...
    This is interesting. I wonder why the AI factions didn't attack you. Did you use diplomacy a lot? Have you been sending money to the AI factions? When the Western Roman Empire goes to war with the AI factions, did you click "accept" or did you click "decline (breaks alliance)"? Did you spend lots of money upgrading your towns, or did you keep a large amount of money in your treasury? Are you playing on hard difficulty?

    I have seen barbarians come into my land without attacking before, but I don't think I've seen no attacks by barbarians at all. The Huns always attack, and the Alans. How did you keep peace in the north? Did you put several large armies at your north frontier? I did once play a campaign where the eastern factions didn't attack me, but that seems like a fluke. I arranged marriage and diplomacy and used tribute to keep them from attacking me, but I'm not sure it's possible now since the update because CA added a war between the Ghassanid (my vassal) and the Persian empire, so it seems war is hard to avoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy1204 View Post
    This is interesting. I wonder why the AI factions didn't attack you. Did you use diplomacy a lot? Have you been sending money to the AI factions? When the Western Roman Empire goes to war with the AI factions, did you click "accept" or did you click "decline (breaks alliance)"? Did you spend lots of money upgrading your towns, or did you keep a large amount of money in your treasury? Are you playing on hard difficulty?

    I have seen barbarians come into my land without attacking before, but I don't think I've seen no attacks by barbarians at all. The Huns always attack, and the Alans. How did you keep peace in the north? Did you put several large armies at your north frontier? I did once play a campaign where the eastern factions didn't attack me, but that seems like a fluke. I arranged marriage and diplomacy and used tribute to keep them from attacking me, but I'm not sure it's possible now since the update because CA added a war between the Ghassanid (my vassal) and the Persian empire, so it seems war is hard to avoid.
    I did not really use diplomacy, i accept war with alains i think because WRE ask me, when i ask WRE for Garamantes, they just break the alliance... I use my money for improving cities and i play on hard difficulty. What is crazy is that huns ask for white peace with no money, and other did the same.

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    In Hard difficulty the ERE campaign can be quite chalenging. What makes me bored by iot though is that there is NO WAY to achieve Ultimate victory.
    In the begining you amy live a nightmare loosing territories , allies and trying to survive and make your economy strong enough to finance your come back.
    Lets say that you survive, you expanded your empire enough, you defeated you most dangerus enemies, you created buffer zones for security, finally you turn in to the west, youdefeat west Romans, you continue to expand and...
    You see that there are NOT enough factions to defeat to achieve the ultimate victory because THE STUPID made AI of the game desolated 50% of the regions, AI factions elliminated AI factions that NEVER responed! While your economy will be strong enough to re-colonise desolated regions THERE IS NO ONE THERE TO FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
    TGC in order to continue its development seak one or more desicated scripters to put our campaign scripts mess to an order plus to create new events and create the finall missing factions recruitment system. In return TGC will give permision to those that will help to use its material stepe by step. The result will be a fully released TGC plus many mods that will benefit TGC's material.
    Despite the mod is dead does not mean that anyone can use its material
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthoniusII View Post
    In Hard difficulty the ERE campaign can be quite chalenging. What makes me bored by iot though is that there is NO WAY to achieve Ultimate victory.
    In the begining you amy live a nightmare loosing territories , allies and trying to survive and make your economy strong enough to finance your come back.
    Lets say that you survive, you expanded your empire enough, you defeated you most dangerus enemies, you created buffer zones for security, finally you turn in to the west, youdefeat west Romans, you continue to expand and...
    You see that there are NOT enough factions to defeat to achieve the ultimate victory because THE STUPID made AI of the game desolated 50% of the regions, AI factions elliminated AI factions that NEVER responed! While your economy will be strong enough to re-colonise desolated regions THERE IS NO ONE THERE TO FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This is why i use a mod for limmiting the rasing feature.

    But i just made a test, not playing at all, just pushing next turn button every time it's my turn, and nothing happend, i'm at peace and nobody bother me...

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    I would suggest removing the "Double Garrisons" mod. Whether you use it to buff the AI or not, it will have an effect on whether the AI attacks you - it will also make their attacks mean nothing as you'll always be able to defeat them, especially in the late game. I'd also remove Sebidee's Unlimited Governors as, while it is
    logical that each province would have a governor, they are just not balanced to be placed everywhere.

    As for campaign difficulty, play it on Hard (preferable - as the AI won't get too many crazy bonuses and will still occasionally accept diplomatic overtures) or Very Hard.

    Keep battle difficulty on normal for the first 50 - 100 turns or so, but once you have access to elite troops (either silver chevrons or Eastern Armoured Legio etc) bump it up to Hard so that the AI can still compete with you in battles.

    You could also try Junaid's "Better Campaign AI" Mod, though he does go crazy with the faction traits. As the Romans, I'd also recommend using one of the "No Replacement" mods so that you can simulate proper army compositions - give Fall of the Eagles a try for that. It also reworks the battle system and the Germanic and Roman re-skins are fantastic. You could also give "Warriors of Faith" a try for it's reworked battle system in addition to Better Campaign AI as it brings back the 1HP system from the pre-Empire generation of games.

    Try using House Rules too - for example, play defensively and try to avoid war with the Sasanians by paying them tribute as opposed to using ahistorical blitzkrieg tactics to knock them out - in aid of this, try out my campaign mod in the signature - it is compatible with both Better Campaign AI and Fall of the Eagles.

    To summarise:
    1. House Rules!
    2. Hard or Very Hard Campaign Difficulty
    2.a. Normal Battle Difficulty for first 50 - 100 turns and then increase to Hard (can be done in Game Options menu)
    3. Removal of Unlimited Governors, Double Garrisons and the Christianity Buff.
    4. A New Beginning + Fall of the Eagles
    4.a. Try Better Campaign AI by Junaid
    4.b. Try Imperiales Economiae, but only "Bronze Edition". Be careful as this will buff both Roman Empires. If you use this play on at least Hard Campaign.

    Hope this helps! Let me know how it goes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Iron Chancellor View Post
    I would suggest removing the "Double Garrisons" mod. Whether you use it to buff the AI or not, it will have an effect on whether the AI attacks you - it will also make their attacks mean nothing as you'll always be able to defeat them, especially in the late game. I'd also remove Sebidee's Unlimited Governors as, while it is
    logical that each province would have a governor, they are just not balanced to be placed everywhere.

    As for campaign difficulty, play it on Hard (preferable - as the AI won't get too many crazy bonuses and will still occasionally accept diplomatic overtures) or Very Hard.

    Keep battle difficulty on normal for the first 50 - 100 turns or so, but once you have access to elite troops (either silver chevrons or Eastern Armoured Legio etc) bump it up to Hard so that the AI can still compete with you in battles.

    You could also try Junaid's "Better Campaign AI" Mod, though he does go crazy with the faction traits. As the Romans, I'd also recommend using one of the "No Replacement" mods so that you can simulate proper army compositions - give Fall of the Eagles a try for that. It also reworks the battle system and the Germanic and Roman re-skins are fantastic. You could also give "Warriors of Faith" a try for it's reworked battle system in addition to Better Campaign AI as it brings back the 1HP system from the pre-Empire generation of games.

    Try using House Rules too - for example, play defensively and try to avoid war with the Sasanians by paying them tribute as opposed to using ahistorical blitzkrieg tactics to knock them out - in aid of this, try out my campaign mod in the signature - it is compatible with both Better Campaign AI and Fall of the Eagles.

    To summarise:
    1. House Rules!
    2. Hard or Very Hard Campaign Difficulty
    2.a. Normal Battle Difficulty for first 50 - 100 turns and then increase to Hard (can be done in Game Options menu)
    3. Removal of Unlimited Governors, Double Garrisons and the Christianity Buff.
    4. A New Beginning + Fall of the Eagles
    4.a. Try Better Campaign AI by Junaid
    4.b. Try Imperiales Economiae, but only "Bronze Edition". Be careful as this will buff both Roman Empires. If you use this play on at least Hard Campaign.

    Hope this helps! Let me know how it goes!
    Thanks i'm gonny try your mods. Guess double garrison, even if it is more realist, break the game and is better in Rome II where there is no nomands and big empires. For sebidee unlimited governores, it's just making me stronger but as no impact on the ennemy and his IA no?

    As i told, i play in hard, it's what make me crazy because nothing happens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Iron Chancellor View Post
    I would suggest removing the "Double Garrisons" mod. Whether you use it to buff the AI or not, it will have an effect on whether the AI attacks you - it will also make their attacks mean nothing as you'll always be able to defeat them, especially in the late game. I'd also remove Sebidee's Unlimited Governors as, while it is
    logical that each province would have a governor, they are just not balanced to be placed everywhere.

    As for campaign difficulty, play it on Hard (preferable - as the AI won't get too many crazy bonuses and will still occasionally accept diplomatic overtures) or Very Hard.

    Keep battle difficulty on normal for the first 50 - 100 turns or so, but once you have access to elite troops (either silver chevrons or Eastern Armoured Legio etc) bump it up to Hard so that the AI can still compete with you in battles.

    You could also try Junaid's "Better Campaign AI" Mod, though he does go crazy with the faction traits. As the Romans, I'd also recommend using one of the "No Replacement" mods so that you can simulate proper army compositions - give Fall of the Eagles a try for that. It also reworks the battle system and the Germanic and Roman re-skins are fantastic. You could also give "Warriors of Faith" a try for it's reworked battle system in addition to Better Campaign AI as it brings back the 1HP system from the pre-Empire generation of games.

    Try using House Rules too - for example, play defensively and try to avoid war with the Sasanians by paying them tribute as opposed to using ahistorical blitzkrieg tactics to knock them out - in aid of this, try out my campaign mod in the signature - it is compatible with both Better Campaign AI and Fall of the Eagles.

    To summarise:
    1. House Rules!
    2. Hard or Very Hard Campaign Difficulty
    2.a. Normal Battle Difficulty for first 50 - 100 turns and then increase to Hard (can be done in Game Options menu)
    3. Removal of Unlimited Governors, Double Garrisons and the Christianity Buff.
    4. A New Beginning + Fall of the Eagles
    4.a. Try Better Campaign AI by Junaid
    4.b. Try Imperiales Economiae, but only "Bronze Edition". Be careful as this will buff both Roman Empires. If you use this play on at least Hard Campaign.

    Hope this helps! Let me know how it goes!

    By the way, did you have any links? I didn't find your mods

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    Default Re: I get bored with my ERE Campagin

    No gameplay change mods + Very hard = there is your challenge

    or

    Try legendary?

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    Only one of those is mine and the link is in my signature. It's not yet fully complete, but the principle is there.
    "Diversity in counsel, unity in command."
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    Drop the double garrison mod and start again. But this time, try to save the WRE. Keep them as allies but send armies to protect their lands.

    That's how I make my Roman campaigns interesting - get your one faction to do the work of two. It really adds to the challenge and is a plausible alternate history (ERE did send armies to Italy to help WRE).

    Gameplay wise, it may be harder as ERE. Yes, ERE is the stronger faction but as the AI WRE falls really fast, so you can't wait long. If the Sassanids go for you, which they really should without too many mods, then it will be hard to spare the forces to fight on two fronts. But that's what you'll have to do to save Rome.

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