Spartan Skirmishers

**thegoat2903** · November 06, 2015, 06:30 PM

hi, i new to DEI and am admittedly a bit of a noob when it comes to the battles side of total war, but could someone tell me why the damn skirmishers in this mod seem to be able to stand up to cavalry charges and then turn around to destroy the cav!! im not sure but i didnt think this was historically accurate at all. Also am i able to change this myself or will i just need to deal with spartan skirmishers.

anyway loving the mod outside of that.

thanks

**Augustusng** · November 06, 2015, 06:37 PM

What difficulty are you playing on?

**KAM 2150** · November 06, 2015, 06:38 PM

If you play above normal then it might happen, on normal all cav beat almost all skirmishers, especially unarmoured.

**thegoat2903** · November 06, 2015, 06:44 PM

i am playing on normal

its just everytime i outflank the enemy army i just end up sitting there waiting for my to either slowly fight through their slingers and jav's or watch in despair as they get rolled.haha sometime i have to set 2 or 3 cav units on one just so i dont lose so many horses.

i'll try easy see if that helps. very quick responses, much appreciated

**thegoat2903** · November 06, 2015, 06:47 PM

waiting for my cav*^

**KAM 2150** · November 06, 2015, 06:47 PM

Could you write what exact skirmishers are they and what cav are you using? Even worst Roman cavalry beats any slingers in the game and has only problems with armoured skirmishers, while most of cavalry units beat any given ranged unit.

**Gilad** · November 06, 2015, 07:00 PM

I imagine one thing he could be experiencing is using a single cav unit to try to take out a skirmisher in the midst of multiple skirmishers. Result ends up being his cav getting wrecked due to all of the missiles that will redirect their fire to that cav unit.

**thegoat2903** · November 06, 2015, 07:47 PM

im using equites, and im up against low tier macedonian and epirote slingers and archers, i cant remember the exact names im sorry, i can let you know when i have access to the game again though?

@Gilad, i will keep an eye on that in the future, thanks

the other option i guess is that ill need to single out every skirmisher unit and hammer and anvil them, will be a pain but what ever

**Gilad** · November 07, 2015, 12:03 AM

Just load up some skirmishers and use them to out focus the AI skirmishers. AI in 1.1 is a lot better about readjusting skirmishers and focusing down yours.

**FlashHeart07** · November 07, 2015, 12:23 AM

Like Gilad mentioned. A single light cav unit is not enough if you are taking on a bunch of skirmishers but you shouldnt ordinarily have any problems.

**Kjertesvein** · November 07, 2015, 04:43 AM

If the enemy have more than two ranged units vs my light cavalry, I always try to send a tank -unit with reasonably big shield and high armor value to be the first flanking unit. Allow him to go first and soak up all the missiles. Their ranged units will be occupied targeting the tanky fellow, which means you should easily be able to focus their ranged units with your Equites without much problem.

http://www.stratuga.com/viewer/#m/56...ad0e13758b456f

Hope that helps.

~Wille

**thegoat2903** · November 07, 2015, 05:27 PM

ok that may be my problem, targeting more than one at a time. thanks you all for the quick replies its very much appreciated.

@Kjertesvein i will keep that in mind and try that for future battles

You guys have have done a very good job with the mod, very impressive

**KAM 2150** · November 07, 2015, 05:37 PM

Thanks

Of course feel free to ask if you have any doubts or you think something is not working right. There is around 1800 unit entries in this mod so it is easy to miss something.

**Gilad** · November 08, 2015, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by KAM 2150

Thanks

Of course feel free to ask if you have any doubts or you think something is not working right. There is around 1800 unit entries in this mod so it is easy to miss something.

Only 1800. Pls quit slacking Kam