The burning of seige equipment

**AndrewN** · November 24, 2006, 02:20 PM

Dose anyone know what controls how quickly battering rams and seige towers catch fire?

To give an example, in my Egypt game I was defending Jerusalem with Huge Stone Walls, Balista Towers and half a dozen archer units on the walls all firing flaming arrows and in 2 seiges, in both the attackers had 2 towers and a ram, I burned a single tower. In a game as the Moors attacking Lisborn I had 2 towers and they both burnt before they got half way to the walls. Both games are at the same difficulty setting.

Why the difference?

**k_161** · November 24, 2006, 02:25 PM

Luck ? it was always random for me in Rome.one time i had ALL my archers fire on a tower and it never caught fire but in another game it lit up with almost instantly.

**AndrewN** · November 24, 2006, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by k_161

Luck ? it was always random for me in Rome.one time i had ALL my archers fire on a tower and it never caught fire but in another game it lit up with almost instantly.

Yep, my first thought was luck, but there should be some other factors otherwise it takes away any stratigies

Originally Posted by Chyiron202

This has happened to me alot, My men can never bring theirs down, and mine always fry like balsa wood. I lost 4 towers and 3 rams in a battle once. I had to withdraw! (If you wait till part of the que is completed you can build more than 6 things) I was very angry. If it is random, at the very least they upped the probability, cause the was a nusance in Rome, not a freakin regular event.

I agree it seems to happen alot more than Rome, I don't think I lost a single seige weapon then.

I haven't had your bad luck with them though, normally because I can't wait until I have alot of towers/rams

**Endeav** · November 24, 2006, 02:28 PM

I think its luck based as well. Though if you do get up to Cannon towers, none of the siege equipment ever work

Now if only you could destroyer ladders somehow.. (one wonders why the defenders don't push them off after all the enemy units are dead)

**WILHELM_II** · November 24, 2006, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Endeav

I think its luck based as well. Though if you do get up to Cannon towers, none of the siege equipment ever work

Now if only you could destroyer ladders somehow.. (one wonders why the defenders don't push them off after all the enemy units are dead)

Well, one time I found the ladders quite handy. I was fighting some Venetians as Milan when they attacked during a siege, inside my town, in front of the gate. they climbed up the ladder and broke through the gate. I killed the unit that climbed on the wall and sent the Italian Spear Milia that killed them to join the huge group in front of the gate. Instead of joining them they climbed down the ladders that had been planted and attacked the Venetians from BEHIND (so they walked right through the gate into the town in essence). That was just the edge I needed because then they broke off and ran away ^_^

**Ketzerfreund** · November 24, 2006, 02:32 PM

Yeah, that'd be cool... those long fork-like things to be picked up on a wall to be used to push off ladders are something that I had already missed in R-TW...

It would be cool if you could build things for defending against a siege like the besieging army does. I mean these "long forks" as well as pots of boiling oil/water/whatever that could be positioned on walls and be used like siege equipment (by using the hand-icon)...

-Der Ketzerfreund.

**GVP** · November 24, 2006, 03:18 PM

I heard the weather effects how quickly siege towers lit up in GLORIOUS FLAMES!!!!!

**Ketzerfreund** · November 24, 2006, 03:23 PM

That would make sense... Where did you hear that? And how reliable was that source?
We have that saying in Germany which goes: "One can say a lot, given the day is long."

-Der Ketzerfreund.

**Ketzerfreund** · November 24, 2006, 03:31 PM

Yes, that's when ladders backfire on the besieger, so to say.

I tried that out intentionally and was quite content with the result.
Many, many, many prisoners...

-Der Ketzerfreund.

**Chiron202** · November 24, 2006, 04:04 PM

This has happened to me alot, My men can never bring theirs down, and mine always fry like balsa wood. I lost 4 towers and 3 rams in a battle once. I had to withdraw! (If you wait till part of the que is completed you can build more than 6 things) I was very angry. If it is random, at the very least they upped the probability, cause the was a nusance in Rome, not a freakin regular event.