Roman Legion composition question in RTR 1.7 PE

[mp84]

Hello Everyone,

I downloaded the RTR 1.7 PE, with the Extended Realism Mod as well.

First off, I have to say, Fantastic.. Ya this may be like 2-3 months late, but I honestly didn't know about this mod till now.. (believe it or not when I picked up Medieval II, and thus decided to check forums to see what is the mod community up to, and I somehow got myself pointed towards this amazing mod, hehe..)

However, I do have 2 simple questions about the constructs of a Roman Legion for my gameplay purposes.

Now i understand the whole 2x2x1 mechanic and all, but I was wondering within this 2x2x1 is it possible to have a Tribune and also a Italic Calavary unit in the same stack?

Cause this usually what I like my make-up to be like within my legion:

Rome Core:
Consular General or Legate General
1 Tribune
1 Hastati
1 Principes
1 Triarii
1 Velites

Allied Core:
1 Marsi Swordsman
1 Marsi Spearman
1 Italian Skirmishers
1 Italic Calvary

Now, the question I would like to know am I allowed to use this form of a legion? Cause I'm training the Calvary unit in the allied state, so is it easy to assume that this is one of this allied units? or is Calvary treated as a seperate entity in terms of the 2x2x1?

All the pictures shown in the utlimate guide it does not list a Tribune and Calavary unit together in a standard legion, so I was wondering if I can do something like this..)

Also, if decide to use an outsize Legion, must I always pick 4 extra units? or can I just 1 to 2 extra units.. Natrually a minimum of 1 more roman unit either Hastati or Principes, or I have to pick Hastati's always?, and 1 more allied unit, with another Calvary unit maybe as well?

Those are the questions I have, this may seem a bit weird, but I'm trying to follow the gameplay rules setout as that's the best way to play, and while It may be a bit harder for me to get everything to play Historically accurate on the campaign map (Since the to me the AI seems a lot harder), I at least want to make sure I'm historically portraying the legion make-ups and ranking through my first playthrough. (Even if the would never use a make-up like that, could be it be historically possible is my main concern..)

Hope this made sense and thanks!

MP

[florin80]

First of all there is no such thing as RTR 7.0 PE.
You probable mean RTRPE v1.7 which is a port of RTR 6 Gold (which was for the engine of RTW v1.2) to the engine of RTW v1.5.
RTR 7.0 is the next version of RTR and is still in development.

Secondly, you might want to go here(MC`s 4tpy thread at rtr forums):
http://forums.totalrealism.net/index...howtopic=20503
or here(Candelarius`s thread):
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55919
For more answers about how that worked. It has to do with MC 4tpy and roman leadership mod which was integrated in Candelarius`s mod.

Moved to the RTR Platinum sub-forum.

[mp84]

Opps..

Sorry bout posting in the wrong thread, I did indeed mean 1.7 RTR PE with the Extended Realism Mod..

Eventhough I have read many pages worth of replies on those thread topics, I doubt the answer I'm looking for will be there..

Basically I'd just like the know if the legions I'm forming based on my first post here, is historically possible..?

Its not gamebreaker, but as I said I'm seriously trying to adhere to the way they formed their legions, but there's just some things i'd think would be better.. (IE: Tribune and Calvary in the same stack for a Standard Legate Legion)

Thanks again and now back to work!

MP

[florin80]

Did you look at Candelarius`s guide? Not sure if it has exactly what you want, but it has a proposed composition for roman armies:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...24&postcount=3

[mp84]

Yep I've looked at the guide, in fact I printed the whole guide out so I look through the Legion Pictures as I play the game.

There is one that closly resembles my example legion I posted on the top of this thread. (In the Mid-Republician Era of Pictures)

Which has the similiar setup I use, but the only difference is I'm naturally following the one half stack guideline, so I'm not including one allied unit and replacing it with the Calvary instead.

It may be something stupid like I said, just wanna make sure I'm following the way they built their legions in my game.. (Or even if it is not something they used alot, could they have historically used that kind of Legion I have currently going on in my game.)

So basically I guess my question is more of a history question about Roman Legion composition pertaining to the way I use them in my game, then anything else.

thanks again

MP