~Hail To The King~ A StainlessSteel 6.4 HS - POLAND OPEN!

[Kilicarslan33]

Venice

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8...TM4NmFOU0wzejA

[Onii-san]

Thanks got it will be up tonight

[Onii-san]

Scicily is up!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/22jrgb...Scicily_33.sav

[Onii-san]

bump

[SirCumfrance]

bump ?

[kolu2210]

Denmark up:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4F...ew?usp=sharing

[★RedStar★]

The first turn under my new name
Assasination - http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...pso1jbttel.png
England up - http://www.mediafire.com/file/7g7lr1...England_33.sav

[Kilicarslan33]

England subbed by me. Portugal up.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8...m1XWE1oeVl1Znc

A fort taken and a ship was sunk.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8...VZMMi1KYW1aWms
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8...EsyNFZDYk1USnc

[★RedStar★]

Come on this is ridiculous. I had previously sent a ingame message to hungarian player trying to turn him against byzantines and I just realized that byzantium and hungary are controlled by the same guy I dont even know how this is possible but this is very unfair and that was a big advantage for him. Maybe he's just a sub but actually he controls both factions. The same scenario is possible with sicily so please fix all this. Find new people or skip them next time please.

[kolu2210]

ERE:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4F...ew?usp=sharing

Battles:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4F...ew?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4F...ew?usp=sharing

I agree, it is unfair. But the admins were already subbing Poland before and TO. Replacements are hard to come by and subbing that many factions is too much to ask of them.

[SirCumfrance]

Extension please for the Easter Weekend
Will be up tomorrow.

[SirCumfrance]

TO up!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2...3JRaG1kc3dkR1E
Yeah i had been waiting for Hungary to be replaced for a long time,
we had been in an alliance since the first turns and I sort of feel they are my vassal at this point.
Is the TO out at this point?
I had granted them refuge in my lands

[★RedStar★]

Yeah i had been waiting for Hungary to be replaced for a long time,
we had been in an alliance since the first turns and I sort of feel they are my vassal at this point.

I thought I was clear, there's no way that I would accept this. It can not be allowed any player to control more than one faction. I dont care what you are planning I dont care if you think hungary is your vassal or not, again, no one can be allowed to control two fractions. Sorry nothing personal I just want to bring some fairness in the HS.

Hungary turn should be replayed by an admin (we have three) or be skipped.

[kolu2210]

No skipping, that is equally unfair.

[SirCumfrance]

I understand what you are saying but i agree with kolu.
If we were going to just skip Hungary I would have taken their places long ago and been far better off.
I have been walking my men through their lands for the last 15 turns, protected them and left them places to take.
Skipping at this rate would be draconian to say the least.

[★RedStar★]

I understand what you are saying but i agree with kolu.
If we were going to just skip Hungary I would have taken their places long ago and been far better off.
I have been walking my men through their lands for the last 15 turns, protected them and left them places to take.
Skipping at this rate would be draconian to say the least.

I probably will not make a mistake if I say that you have gained enough of this situation, more than enough.

So I just wanted to point out that the current situation is unsustainable. As I said before, the best option would be to find a new player but subbing by the admin or killing faction or turning AI - its all fine by me.

[StOuFf]

skipping is no option. turning AI as the faction was probably dead anyway in the past, would have been a good choice, if there was nobody to play it.
a constant subbing as it is the case is not something we should aim to have, it gives too much advantage to an allready strong faction and it takes away the option of making diplomacy with that "vassal" faction - convincing to attack the overlord together e.g. it should have a human player and if no player wants it either make it AI or the admin should sub.

[Onii-san]

Can TO be subbed?
I would like everything to be resolved too before my turn if possible.
It wouldnt be horrible if byz took a few of hungries places and they were considered destroyed and out of bounds or something?
Hungry was weak in the past and admins and players didn't want to take up the challenge as well sadly

[★RedStar★]

Lets see, if I understand correctly Hungary should have been destroyed long ago but one player saw an opportunity and has decided to spare and then to strengthen them planning to use them later on his side and so gain a huge advantage over the rest of us. Well it makes perfect sense to me that his cunning plan somehow be turned against him

[kolu2210]

The player left in the middle of Hungary and Byz fighting Poland and Denmark after the TO almost died. It made sense at the time to let Byz take over until a replacement was found to finish the war. Just turn Hungary and TO AI - Byz will take all the places very quickly anyways I am sure. No one is going to take over TO and Hungary at this point.

Cannot blame ERE for this situation. Not his fault no one replaced Hungary.