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    Default Great Moments in M2TW

    Whether on the Battle Field, or the grand Campaign, what moments of shining glory or shocking surprise has made you say "wow"? Lets set aside rants on how this was probably all chance, or "the AI r teh dum wtf?!". I'll go ahead and post difficulty levels and my relative power at the time.

    Edit even before posting: ya, I meant to speak purely technical, but got a bit carried away. If this belongs in AAR, go ahead and move it, but I wanted others to share too.

    A few from me:

    English - VH/VH, 3rd place at the time

    1. My very first game was with the English (like most I'm sure), I jumped right in on VH/VH. Frustrations of "the whole world is against me" (which I expected) aside, there were a couple of times where I was really impressed.

    I had just taken over all of England when France started getting frisky, so I loaded up an army and headed ashore. The battles went well, and then I encountered my first Fortress assault.

    With catapults and ballistas in tow, I approached the city, garrisoned by an equal number but lesser troops, and proceeded to tear down those walls.

    Their defense was stout, letting me enter the walls only to be held down and flanked, but I broke through as the remaining half of their garrison retreated to the central castle.

    In a rush I persued, the bulk of their troops went up the hill and behind the second gate, but two units split off left and right at the last intersection before the castle.

    My persuing troops got stopped cold by the closing gates, and at that same moment most of their archers were atop the castle walls shooting down at me.

    I turned to regroup out of arrow range, when those two units that split off crashed into my flanks! My pursuers got slaughtered and before I could send any help the flankers also got into the castle.

    The ballistas tore down the gates and again I charged. My superior reserve infantry (billmen and two units of dismounted knights I had not committed to battle yet) carved their way past the tired and bloodied defenders.

    Enemy archers came off the walls and tried in one last ditch effort to attack. The infantry turned to face them, and just then, the French Generals horn sounded, he was on top of the little hill in the back of the castle, charging down.

    My billmen were in disarray, but I commanded them to face the French Knights. The unorganized unit broke like water crashing against a rock, and the unit of billmen were no more.

    The cavalry had no where to go, and the last of the enemy infantry were in small pockets of resistance. The day was mine, but the battle was costly, and epic.

    2. (my last description got uhm... a little long winded.. I'll shorten this one! :p) I had just stomped France down to three southern provinces when the Danes came a-knocking.

    They blockaded my ports and attacked my northern most city with a half stack of units. My garrison was about a quarter stack.

    I was weak from my still ongoing war with france, which was now at a standstill as I only had one serviceable army left.

    I brought this army north to face the Danes, and as I did so, a full stack of Danish troops landed on my southwest coast! They quickly sieged and in the same turn (with catapults) attacked my poorly defended town. Needless to say I got it back within a few turns, but that was a genius move!

    Venicians - H/H, 2nd place at the time

    Those Milanese swine had been a thorn in my side from the start, so when they made the mistake of attacking me while MY pope was in office, I took it to them.

    My nation was farstrung, from Venice to Constantinople I was king, but the Italian Pinensula had remained the domain of Sicily and Milan. I had only one army to commit to the war with Milan, and so I marched to them in good time.

    In the distance I saw an army, and so approached. Just as before I arrived face to face with them I was ambushed!

    I had time to react, but this put the odds at 2:1 against me, and the actual number of troops against me closer to 4:1.

    I assembled my lines, and fortune was with me. Their second army was no where in sight!

    We lined up infront of each other; our pavaice crossbowmen hammering away at one another, until at last their army was weakened enough for the charge.

    My four units of spearmen ran forward, beneath a hail of arrows and bolts they met the opposing troops, and just as all seemed to be in my favor a new army could be seen in the distance. Their reinforcements had arrived!

    I commited my cavalry, but their General fends them off to his death. Their retreating troops, battered as they are, regroup and set up a new formation. The reinforcements march to me at breakneck speed.

    I barely had time to reform my lines, my crossbow militia exausted and almost out of ammunition, but healthy in number.

    The enemy approaches, but I have the higher ground. Volly one, their men fall to the ground, but they continue to approach. Volly two, again they fall, but still they come. Volly three, they reform at nearly point blank range to my crossbows. Volly four, they charge.

    My crossbows are assembled deep, and the spearmen form a thin second line, only three ranks deep behind them. The line holds as my cavalry form into one wing. The Milanese commit their remaining men and it is apparent my line will not last much longer.

    My cavalry meets their cavalry, but my with my General among them to flank, we come out on top.

    To their flanks! We crash into a sea of green and white, and withdraw. Again, withdraw, but my main line begins to waiver.

    STRAIGHTEN YOUR BACKS! I litterally yell at my screen as I rush my General THROUGH their line and back to mine, his horn blaring. If the line faulters, I am lost.

    They continue to run, but I am in persuit. My other Knights are now entrenced in hand to hand with the enemy, but they wont last long without help. Finally my small squads of remaining men turn to face their general, and with no time to reform, I order the charge. Now the enemy is scattered, their backs turned to fight my flanking cavalry, not concerned with what they thought were my fleeing infantry. With one final push, only a few hundred men, we collid. Their King wades into the fray, destroying one unit of cavalry and at that same moment my men waiver again. My horn blares, they rejoin. I take my general unit, now only 10 strong, and reform them into a wedge. I circle the battle as quickly as I can, and ride into their King, killing him.

    The remaining Milanese break, and as my few men take after them, I survey the carnage. One-third of their men died that day, on the opening battle of our war.

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    Great moments? Not in this game dude RTW RTR all the way

    Real Strategos always makes sure his troops are flexible .
    "The Condition of a military force is that its essential factor is speed,taking advantage of others' failure to catch up,going by routes they do not expect,attacking where they are not on guard."

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    Ah, that would be the same RTR that is the easiest of all the RTW mods to play then.

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    Well, I've had two moments that were pretty cool. Both not so great.....First off I'm a vet of all the games in the TW series, Shogun having just dropped to second as my favorite after this game.

    I'm still in my first campaign as the English on m/m. Due to the passive AI and the easier difficulty I was doing quite well as expected. Saw lots of cool stuff like a huge wave of French assasins who knoked off 2 of my heirs before I wised up and began protecting them better, along with the inquistors tearing through northern France wiping out all my priests and mechants.

    Anyway, on to the stories.

    1) My faction leader is leading a band of about 600 men to take a French city. He's my best commander and the nearest guy to do the job. The city has 200-300 garrisoning. There was a small French stack nearby which will appear as reinforcments. I'm not too comcerned. I deploy with those guys in mind. I'm ready to pound the city into submission. The battle starts and I order the catapults to start firing at the wall. I see the French have a small group on a nearby hill. So 10 seconds into the battle I see the flaming ball fly
    out from the hill. It crashed into my general's bodygaurds and I see the falling horse cutscene. My lord, our general's dead. I'm like, WTF? Then I had to laugh, stuff happens and when your faction leader is leading a seige there's always that chance.


    2) Later in the game I'm attacking a southern French city, or preparing too. I have one of my best generals with a full stack of spearman, heavy infantry, a morter, two bombards and two heavy cavalry and some other stuff. So as I'm moving into place, waiting for a papal order not to attack to expire, he runs up a stack then hits me with a second stack. I'm in the woods so I deploy and hope for the best. The bastard has about 5 trebuchets. Incoming!
    He's tossing flaming balls at me while I just get drilled. I'm vastly outnumbered as he marches in tons of reinforments. Bombards aren't working for me at all in a battle in the woods. Morter is totally ineffective. No archers, well, one Longbowman. So the Frenchie brings up 3 or 4 crossbowman and I'm getting pummelled. Despite the passive AI bug I then see lines of heavy infantry approaching. Finally I see the bombards do some damage but way too little too late. He killed my general with the artillary bombardment and my spearman and heavy infrantry were overhwelmed. I tried to withdraw what I could, both bombards escaped and I got 3 bronze experience for one and a silver for the other.....that's about all the good that came of it.

    Fantastic game this is......
    Last edited by rastak; November 23, 2006 at 07:07 AM.

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    Impressive. I once had a castle seige where several units of jannisary musketmen and some assorted infantry held back a huge french attacking force. The street in front of the musketeers was paved with corpses, not stone.

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    Mine was nailing a danish general with a bombard the first shot, quite random but i did laugh.


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    My greatest moment so far would have to be the siege of Constantinople as the Venetians. I had a full stack of some of my best troops, they had a worn down full stack of some very good troops as well. It was one hell of a fight, i lost most of my army, the streets were paved with bodies, yet i managed to win.
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    Getting the Pope to attack the Byzantines (by giving him a province in Greece) so I could snatch off portions of their empire.

    I love alliances, sometimes.

    Another one would be a Venetian army showing up to help me fight off a Byzantine siege.

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    My first seige(defense and attack for each). I was like...****, this is fun!!!
    Sieges are just a lot more fun than RTW, especially since walls are normal, as opposed to having either non-mountable walls or gigantic walls.

    Otherwise, Demolishing a Byzantine army with my Turkish horse archers.




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    You gotta love those citadel sieges, especially with GUNS!


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    I've had two of my most beloved battles in the entire TW series as the HRE against the perfidious Poles. Each battle I thought would be a walkover but both of them came down to five or six soldiers against twenty or so enemy soldiers. True, it's a Pyhrric victory when you have only your general with no bodyguards and some sickly-looking and bloodied militia left from your Grand Army, but what a spectacle...

    Also, Unhorsed knights are becoming a favorite of mine with some epic struggles on the ramparts of Jerusalem and Antioch.
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    My first heroic victory (and also the first for which I noticed a famous battle site in this game). My 'new model' Milanese army (H/H, btw) atop a hill outside Zagreb fighting off first one, then a second Venetian army, both of which were numerically (if not qualitatively) superior. I lost about 20% of my force for the total annihilation of both of theirs, hell, we took over 1500 prisoners alone...(large unit size).

    The AI certainly wasn't passive in this one - we both recognised the crest of the hill nearest their first army as being critical, and fortunately my troops got there first, though barely. From there on it was a desperate fight as my dismounted broken lances and fuedal knights waded into hordes of spear infantry backed up by slav mercs and peasants while the cav butchered their leader and mopped up their many missile units.

    Following that a couple of cav units kept the remainder fleeing while the rest of the army frantically repositioned on the hilltop to face the incoming second wave of Venetians, although the second wave faltered badly under the withering fire put out by the technologically advanced Milanese arquebusiers and good old fashioned crossbowmen.

    I've never seen so many wizard hats littering the battlefield (check out some of the slav mercs headgear if you wonder what I'm on about).

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    Definitely my first crusade had some great moments. It was with the english (second game, though ) - My king went on crusade to Antioch, by ship. At Sicily some pirates attacked the fleet and sunk all ships but one (well, was a rather small fleet...).

    I drew back to Tripolis, landed and decided to march to Antioch.
    Desertation decimated the army turn by turn, till only my king and two units of dismounted knights were left. They marched on through Africa, till at last I was able to hire some mercenaries in Egypt and later on.

    I arrived with an army at Antioch, besieged the city an my king died in glory in an epic battle against an overwhelming mongolian force. *sigh* (sounds a little masochistic, doesn't it?)

    Also: Finishing my first cathedral, lifting my standing with the pope from three to six or seven.
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    I had two generals get nailed by flaming artillery, both in epic battles. The first as he was minding his own business overseeing the sally against the siege of Dijon. He was merciless and a pervert though, so I guess it was 'God's judgement' or something. The second was during this battle:



    The pic was taken shortly before, I think. Catapult hit at point blank range as he was galloping across this line of catapults from one side of the battlefield to the other. I nearly jumped out of my skin!

    Oh, and I lost a captain to a catapult too:



    Talking about artillery, I had a truly great artilllery duel one battle, the AI was passive but had, like 10 trebs, a couple of catapults and a bombard or two. I had a couple of bombards. He was being passive so we duelled back and forth in snowy darkness, so awesome, if you zoomed out all you could see was muzzle flashes and fiery balls. Had my cavalry flanking them but I still lost. It was very close though.

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