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    Default TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final


    TWC and Hotseat Gaming Staff present

    THE SECOND ANNUAL


    TAG TEAM TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONSHIP


    This is the second edition of the TWC hotseat tag team tournament!

    The Quarter Finals had a lot of people leaving, therefore they could not be continued. We will start the Semi Final with the players that have proven to be reliable.


    Factions
    Team Rohan and Rhun:
    Dragon and Adanedhel
    Team Gondor and Harad: Joerock22 and Chieftain
    Team Mordor and Isengard: Egyptian_Viking and TheBlackWolf


    Admins: JWANT and DUX

    Map



    Rules:


    Administrative


    • Long campaign


    • Manage all settlements
    • M/M Difficulty
    • 21 turn limit




    General


    • You may reload your turn as many times as you want
    • Turns must be taken within 24 hours. Extensions available upon request, but please try not to be late every time
    • Please PM or VM the next player in line




    Territorial


    • Players cannot capture any settlement outlined in black (i.e. out of bounds area). There is no restriction on where armies and agents can move. So armies and agents can move into out of bounds areas, but may not capture any settlements there




    Gameplay

    • No Invasions
    • Losing both your capitals (as a team) means defeat.
    • Losing both your factionleaders in battle means defeat.
    • You may gift a maximum of 3 regions to another faction, but all units except one which appear as a result of the transfer must be disbanded immediately.
    • No gifting settlements at risk of capture
    • No heroic victories
    • Battles against other players must be auto-resolved. Battles against the AI can be fought
    • Post screenshots of all battles against other players: deployment screen and results screen. I think this makes following a hotseat much more interesting. Note – you do not need to post screenshots for lopsided battles, i.e. 1,000 vs. 100, but please mention the battle in your post
    • No assassinations or sabotage. You may recruit assassins to act as (expensive) extra spies, but you may not use them for anything else
    • No surrounding armies with smaller stacks to deny a retreat. You are allowed to block bridges or river crossings
    • No mercenary transport ships
    • All crossings points of the Anduin are in play
    • Units defeated by a player coming after you in the turn order may not move or attack on your subsequent turn
    • The previous rule includes sieges – if defeated units retreat to a settlement and the enemy immediately lays siege, the defending army may not sally out on the turn immediately after the defeat, even if there are units inside the settlement which were not defeated. This is because the game engine prevents the sally where the defeated army comes later in the turn order
    • Bribing is allowed
    • Sallying from a settlement under siege is not allowed if it results in the settlement falling to the besieging force immediately thereafter (on your turn)
    • You are not allowed to lure an ambushing army a tile further to bring it in range of more of your forces
    • You are not allowed to siege a settlement for the sole purpose of denying a retreat into that settlement. You must instead allow the retreat and then siege the settlement
    • You may use siege engines (ballista, catapult, etc.) to attack a settlement immediately instead of sieging for a turn first
    • you can't besiege a settlement with 1 unit to deny a retreating army to enter it then lift the siege to attack it again and the army inside to reinforce.




    Buildings


    • No destroying any buildings if the settlement is at risk of capture
    • Exterminating settlements is not allowed. You may sack or occupy
    • On the turn you capture an enemy settlement, you are only allowed to destroy inns and cultural buildings. This rule stays in effect until you have held a captured settlement for 3 turns
    • After you hold a captured settlement for 3 turns, buildings can be destroyed without restriction (provided the settlement is not at risk of capture)




    Spies


    • Whether a spy may open the gates of a settlement depends on the size of the settlement’s garrison. If a settlement is defended by 720+ elves, 900+ men, or 1500+ orcs, then spies may NOT open the gates. If a settlement is defended by fewer than this number, then spies may open the gates without restriction
    • Note – Isengard must have 1500 soldiers in a settlement before it is safe from spies, even if some of those soldiers are dunlandings (men). This is because the standard unit size for Isengard is 250 across the board. Rhun, on the other hand, falls under the 900 man category because its standard unit size is 150
    • The purpose of this rule is to allow players to defend their settlement without fear of losing their garrison due to spies. Its justification is that settlement with more defenders have better surveillance and it would be harder for spies to operate. I also want to keep the rule simple, which is the reason for the hard limit. So basically if you defend a settlement with 6 full units worth of troops, you are safe from spies
    • Spies may open the gates against the Rebels (AI) without restriction

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    Team Rohan-Rhun up!
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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    NVM

    As soon as I discuss some things with Dragon, we'll play. Somehow we always get Rohan in the mix.
    Last edited by Adanedhel; September 20, 2015 at 04:28 AM.

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    Quote Originally Posted by Dux View Post
    We will not start the Semi Final with the players that have proven to be reliable.
    wait... wut?

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    Is Dol Guldor in play? I hope not. It now has no garrison so that means Rohan can take it with a single cav unit way before anyone else.
    Also, Mordor has a very lonely spy left outside Dol Guldor. Perhaps it can be moved to where the army was moved to?
    And the diplomay needs to be fixed. Thanks.

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    Is Dol Guldor in play?
    It's not. Too bad that Kugavod is not in play either. Easy pick for Rhun that is. Oh well.

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    Last edited by Adanedhel; September 21, 2015 at 12:52 PM.

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    The hotseat begins aaaand I lose my teammate... again. Ranger this time. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/membe...63217-*Ranger*
    No one likes me lol.

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    Just like that? Without saying anything? Don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adanedhel View Post
    Just like that? Without saying anything? Don't get it.
    I don't get it either but I suppose we have to prepare for that he might not come back. So... We'll have to find me a new teammate then? *sigh*
    We are losing players fast. Reliable and experienced ones as well. Where can we find a new player? I don't want to play alone again, but I still need someone good on my team. I'm not the best myself, so I need someone on my level or better.

    I doubt that we will find someone

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    As I said in JWANT's 2, Black Wolf was looking for hotseats to play in. I will ask him for this one too, I think he is the only one left right now to help us out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chieftain Khuzaymah View Post
    As I said in JWANT's 2, Black Wolf was looking for hotseats to play in. I will ask him for this one too, I think he is the only one left right now to help us out.
    Love to play, was gutted I would miss the Tag Team Tournament as I was away over the summer but not going to miss the chance to play now

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    Consider it done then.

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    I wish finding players to fill up spots would always be this easy

    Thanks Wolf! For this one and JWANT's 2
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    rep given

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    Apologies for the delays. I will get to this tonight. As Dux knows, I am doing a lot of admin/Gaming Staff work lately.

    Edit - Sorry, guys, but I really think that the diplomacy needs to be fixed. For one thing, I shouldn't be allied with Rohan. Alliances in TATW require a diplomat to break, which invites abuse. I also shouldn't have to wait several turns to begin trading with Harad. We should be able to do that from turn 1.

    Requesting that a new save issue and we restart. That's the cleanest way to handle this.
    Last edited by joerock22; September 22, 2015 at 09:38 PM.

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    Shouldn't it be possible to change all of this in the descr_stat file? Specifically for this HS, of course.
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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    Please, don't ask me to replay those turns. Can't we figure something else out? There must be commands that one can enter in the console to change diplomatic relatios of the factions.

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    There isn't a command.

    We have to restart.

    I am sorry Adanedhel, this is my fault.

    Rohan up!

    (please check if everything is alright)
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    Last edited by Dux; September 24, 2015 at 09:59 AM.

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    Default Re: TWC Tag Team Tournament TATW Semi Final

    If you could also move that spy from Dol Guldur to Mordor then we would be ready to begin, I believe.

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