M2TW has the cheapest ENDING ever.

**villain4hire** · November 21, 2006, 09:24 PM

Great game but as usual as with many games today the ending is CHEAP. That is all.

**DavidtheDuke** · November 21, 2006, 09:32 PM

Yeah, well TW never has had an ending to talk about. Well, apart from Shogun I guess.

**crazyj** · November 21, 2006, 11:04 PM

Very true, since Shogun nothing to write home about.

What is shocking is the length and quality of the Norman invasion video, as part of the prologue/tutorial. Something similar woulda been nice for faction endings, but meh, if you haven't seen enough carnage by the time you get to an ending whats the point anyway.

**Anaea** · November 22, 2006, 01:56 AM

I would've liked better intro videos. I haven't seen the end yet though.

**Wurfspiess** · November 22, 2006, 02:01 AM

Cheapest ending ever?
no, pac man and pong had them
but compared to Shogun ...yes

**Scarlett Letterman** · November 22, 2006, 03:15 AM

i wish we could get some overall stats and other goodies at the end. Who did what, men lost, killed, yadda yadda. Or maybe a replay of the campaign zoomed out with no fog of war and in fast forward mode to see a quick repay of the campaign. I dont know, give us something CA!

**crazyj** · November 22, 2006, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Scarlett Letterman

i wish we could get some overall stats and other goodies at the end. Who did what, men lost, killed, yadda yadda. Or maybe a replay of the campaign zoomed out with no fog of war and in fast forward mode to see a quick repay of the campaign. I dont know, give us something CA!

Indeed. I think one of the things highest on my wishlist since Shogun would be if when you finished a campaign, you saw a simple screen *similar to one following a battle in most RTS games like Warcraft or Dawn of War if not as comprehensive as in Victoria or Hearts of Iron* displaying the total number of troops you trained (be nice to see 400,000 or some such wouldn't it?) as well as the number of men you lost in battle and the number of men you killed. It would be so easy to implement its ridiculous they don't. They wouldn't need any faction endings then, just a list of the hundreds of thousands of dead bodies that paved the way for you.

**Scarlett Letterman** · November 22, 2006, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by crazyj

Indeed. I think one of the things highest on my wishlist since Shogun would be if when you finished a campaign, you saw a simple screen *similar to one following a battle in most RTS games like Warcraft or Dawn of War if not as comprehensive as in Victoria or Hearts of Iron* displaying the total number of troops you trained (be nice to see 400,000 or some such wouldn't it?) as well as the number of men you lost in battle and the number of men you killed. It would be so easy to implement its ridiculous they don't. They wouldn't need any faction endings then, just a list of the hundreds of thousands of dead bodies that paved the way for you.

or even show what years you were at war or peace, when and how long you were allied with somebody, or a timeline of your monarchy, ranking of generals. Any ONE of these even. The list goes on. But deadlines are a beach...

**maxiumus_pooh** · November 22, 2006, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Wurfspiess

Cheapest ending ever?
no, pac man and pong had them
but compared to Shogun ...yes

Man, are you kidding? And that great death animation for pac man, when his eyes go X and he kinda falls in on himself and goes "whoop whoop whoop". Masterpiece. CA should have incorporated the pac man death animation into MTW2, its that good.
Anyhoo, I haven't seen the ending vids yet, since I refuse to reinstall until the holy grail *ahem* the patch comes out. But finally we have the great Norman intro, plus in game event movies. Each faction intro is cheap-arsed, though; no matter which faction the monk is babbling on about, it always shows those byzantine troops chopping things up. Better than nothing, I guess...Long live the pac man!!!

**Kye** · November 22, 2006, 10:33 AM

I dont think the tw games need a good ending, playing the game is the experience, there is not really something of a story to tie it up with a great fmv at the end.

I dont start a new game with the pure intention of completing and taking over the map, you think of the short term goals needed to further your empire, which then branch off. There is a point when you know your going to win anyway, so im not really fussed about a crap ending.

Kye.

**jegui** · November 22, 2006, 05:19 AM

I agree… it would be awesome to have a CIV like ending with the campaign history timeline plotted in a simple 2d map… it’s so easy to implement this and they haven’t done anything since Shogun… If at least we had the option to record log files with casualty/battle numbers we could do it ourselves but no option at all ;-(

**Frank0** · November 22, 2006, 05:55 AM

This is true, however, coming from someone who's last game was Europa Universalis 2, the ending comes pleasantly. Trust me, you haven't seen a displeasing ending until you've played that game. It's just so dissappointing.

That said, I also cast my vote for a Civ4 style ending.

**Nats** · November 22, 2006, 06:43 AM

I would like to see a feature where you are ranked in a leader board a la Civ 4 which is the best bit about Civ IMO (I dont like the new Civ much - too board-gamey not enough atmosphere). I would also like to see a summary screen when you end/complete a game showing how you ranked with other factions. But as for the ending sequence I am not too bothered about it I will very rarely if ever actually see it.

**scottn72** · November 22, 2006, 08:07 AM

Some kind of ranking/scoring system at the end for each faction would give a little more satisfaction, some facts and figures would be good too.

It would give you others things to aim for in successive games rather than just I won/lost, and it wouldn't be that hard to add.

**jaklei** · November 22, 2006, 10:02 AM

yeah new campaign endings is a must!

**Dodge** · November 22, 2006, 10:06 AM

An AOE-style stats/graph screen would be decent, showing major battles, kills, losses, generals etc

**villain4hire** · November 22, 2006, 04:55 PM

True.. stats woulda been great. It sucks I have to type all my wins and losses in excel just to see my kill count. So far I have killed 50 thousand people and spared 0. lol

**Sir Robin** · November 22, 2006, 05:27 PM

I would rather have unique faction introduction videos than a better ending video. I was awfully disappointed when I started a different faction and discovered, Hey! That's the same video!

Still I rarely finish a campaign since once I am in the definate win territory I restart and try something different.

**Inhuman One** · November 22, 2006, 05:29 PM

I think it would be nice if the background at the menu would change, something cool of the faction you won with could be added each time. that way you could keep track of which factions you finished the games with and which not and might drive you to finish the game with all factions.