After EB2 is done...

[Grimmy]

I propose a project for the historians of ancient history involved with the production of EB2 that doesn't involve modding.

What I, and I assume others, would very much enjoy would be a discussion type thing based on the Aegean Apocalypse, ie: The Hittites, ancient Egypt and all the other empires and kingdoms, large and small that either ceased to exist or were knocked hard into recession for a long while by events that eventually lead to a dark age.

Items of interest:

Where did the Hittites originally come from? When they abandoned their capital city, where'd they go? Who were the Sea People. How'd they become so devastating? What is known about the involvement of, or damage done to the coastal peoples of the Italian Peninsula and southern coastal Greece? Where'd the Dorians come from and were they involved in the devastation or were they recipients of it too?

So, a discussion of that period and it's peoples (also the natural devastation such as earth quakes, droughts and volcano) along the line of building a commonly agreed to knowledge base for someone else to build a mod upon with as much historical accuracy as can be made possible by all the learned members of the mod as well as others on this forum... then all I'd have to do is convince some one with the modding skills to make that mod so's I could play it

I don't suggest that the EB team do the mod. I am assuming that they're all fairly burned out on such work by now. I do think that having a discussion on such things might be useful post EB2 though. Give the fellahs a place to talk history with us yokels without having to fuss with coding, scripting, modeling, etc and so on as a form of "warm down" after all that they've put into both EB and EB2.

[Sylon]

I don't think any of our historians know much about any of these, though. Maybe paullus, since he seems to have knowledge on all sorts of topics.

All of what you mentioned are bronze age, while EBII takes place in the iron age. That's like the difference between the medieval era and the Napoleonic era.

[Grimmy]

Well then, it might serve as an interesting brain game for all who wish to participate.

Having actual trained historians on board could be very helpful in providing insight into which sources might be trustworthy and whatnot. And, for all I know, the historians involved with EB 1 & 2 might have limited themselves to discussions on the EB period but also have an interest in this this period as well.

[Grimmy]

The only sources I have on history (or anything other than fiction, really) is the internet and what's there is a confused mess, to describe it in polite terms.

Take the Hittites, for example. The language was written in cuniform and at first assumed to be Semitic or mid eastern based. The letters could be read by researchers but no words would make any sense. Then, iirc, a Czech philologist recognized some of the words when spoken sounded a whole lot like words in other indo-european languages. It was then that the "code" was broken and the multitude of clay tablets discovered could be read and understood.

Then it gets a bit messy, internet info wise.

There are sites where speakers of Armenian claim that the language spoken by the Hittites very nearly matches their own with exceptions being only in slight drift of pronunciation as would naturally occur over so many centuries. There are others who claim the same for proto-germanic and other languages, including Pelasgic.

Then that leads to Pelasgians. It is claimed by some that they were aboriginal to the Peloponnese area and were pushed out or absorbed by the proto-Greeks. Others claim that the Pelasgians were the Doric Greeks. Some claim that the histories record the Pelasgians as teaching the Hellene the working of metals, writing and the making of stone walls. Others claim that the Pelasgians had no written language and were neolithic. Others claim that one of the names for the Pelasgians was The Sea People due to their ability to make strong ships and an excellence of navigating the seas. Others say the Pelasgians were the aboriginal people of the entire Europe area and were pushed out, subsumed or otherwise obliterated by waves of other peoples.

Also, all mixed in there are the Danaan Greeks. Some say they're pre-migration into Egypt Israelites from the tribe of Dan. Others say they're the same people as the Tuatha de Danaan of Irish myth.

All that might or might not apply to understanding the various events leading up causing the bronze age dark age. I don't know. I do find the subject(s) interesting enough to "try hard" (meaning put effort into an obvious fail) for me in attempting to learn but I have no way of sorting through the to find any nuggets of value.

[Elmetiacos]

...Also, all mixed in there are the Danaan Greeks. Some say they're pre-migration into Egypt Israelites from the tribe of Dan. Others say they're the same people as the Tuatha de Danaan of Irish myth.

Yes, but they're all barking mad or have been dead 200 years.