Download Morning Sun Version 3.3

[uanime5]

I'm not sure when it will be done. I have to make several new unit parts as I'm making the Ming, Jurchen, and Tusi factions more accurate.

I'm also planning to be recalculating the stats and costs of most of the non-Japanese units.

[mhawari]

did you will try to fix many problem in this mod with ur update?

[mhawari]

and if u could fix ressearch time, and unit recruitment bcos its really taking so long.

[uanime5]

I plan to fix several of the bugs in this mod.

Research and unit times are long because this mod has 24 turns per year, so if I don't make the research and recruitment times longer everything will be researched in a few years and it will be possible to raise several armies a year.

[mhawari]

yeah i had found bug yesterday, the jurchen dead squad unit weapon is gone

[mhawari]

do u plan to make several unit part? how if u begin with ashin-gioro/Qing infantry uniform. bcos i see some mistake, if i do not wrong suppose to be like this.

[nguyenmaithu]

do u plan to make several unit part? how if u begin with ashin-gioro/Qing infantry uniform. bcos i see some mistake, if i do not wrong suppose to be like this.

Jurchen and Early Qing army didn't like this. Your pictures draw Qing army in mid-late XIX century, maybe in Taiping Rebellion

[nguyenmaithu]

Manchurian and early Qing maybe like this pictures.





pictures 2 and 3 draw Qing army in late XVIII - early XIX century

[mhawari]

ohh sorry maybe i was wrong, if such this correct?

[mhawari]

haha nice to find someone who care about History, nice to meet you. And sorry about my ignorance

[nguyenmaithu]

ohh sorry maybe i was wrong, if such this correct?

nice to meet you. I think Jurchen started used more cloth(Not armor) for their soldier,special for Green Standard army when they completed conquer all China. I think reason is: musket and firearms are used increasingly popular (or may be because the Green Standard army have too many man, and will take many money to make armor for all of them? ). Since XVIII century, i only saw the Eight Banner army wear armor in Qing army.

[mhawari]

how about ming dynasty uniform? it should be colored with red? maybe this will cool if the wanli emperor wearing typical clothes

[You_Guess_Who]

how about ming dynasty uniform?

Ini bukan tentara zaman Ming. Those are from Western Han era, some 1200 years before the timeframe of the mod.

[mhawari]

you mean western han form 206 BC? oh sorry maybe i was wrong to take picture, bcos behind at shieldman i saw someone like tusi crossbowman. perhaps the ming supposed to be like this, one source from film i've watch. hahaha again i met someone who care about history. Nice to meet u gan

[mhawari]

sir can i ask u something? its that right if u import model unit from another game? well i think if u want to get turtle ship model why not to try import model from age of Empire 2? and how if u look red seal ship turn it into panokseon ship? i see similarity between them.

[nguyenmaithu]

how about ming dynasty uniform? it should be colored with red? maybe this will cool if the wanli emperor wearing typical clothes

this is a film, we shouldn't use film's dress because dress in Chinese History movie often not based on Chinese history

[nguyenmaithu]

I think Ming army uniform in game is Ok.

[nguyenmaithu]

sir can i ask u something? its that right if u import model unit from another game? well i think if u want to get turtle ship model why not to try import model from age of Empire 2? and how if u look red seal ship turn it into panokseon ship? i see similarity between them.

main problem is NO ONE CAN DESIGN 3D MODEL for that ships.

[You_Guess_Who]

you mean western han form 206 BC?

Whoops, that made it 1600-1800 years.

sir can i ask u something? its that right if u import model unit from another game? well i think if u want to get turtle ship model why not to try import model from age of Empire 2? and how if u look red seal ship turn it into panokseon ship? i see similarity between them.

There are 2 parts of ship models: the appearance model and the actual model. For instance, Primergy of North and South II mod has successfully modded a Kobaya appearance to make it look like USS Monitor. However, the models_naval, the model that determines where the boundaries of the ship, its buoyancy, where the sailors walks is very complex. It is doable, and some modders has edited models_naval, however due to its complexity and so far no easy way to convert the xml coordinates to max coordinates, only simple edits were made so far, about the cannon placements atop already-available ships.

Oh, you can't propose something out of AoE 2 to be imported - those aren't even 3D models, they're still using 2D Sprites!

TLDR: Naval Models are theoretically doable, just not practical because they're complex.

I say Ming models are already great - my concern is better textures for Korean models.

[mhawari]

whoops i didnt know if 2d cant be convert into 3d, someone always asking where is turtle ship. So the another 3D game dont have turtle ship.