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On this day, the 20th anniversary of 9/11, no tears. Only early 2000s anti-Bush memes
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Never forget about how thousands of Americans were killed by Saudi terrorist attack, reports on which are still classified by US government for "greater good".
I’d say speculating about the Saudi connection is less relevant than definitely surrendering to the group that gave bin Laden a base and has for the entire duration since maintained close ties with al Queda, on the 20th anniversary of the attacks.
But I suppose we can always depend on auth left and auth right to remind us we can’t be sad about 9/11 because America sucks.A Taliban official said that the group raised their flag over the Afghan presidential palace in a brief ceremony on Saturday — the same day the U.S. and the world marked the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.
The milestone anniversary takes place just weeks after the chaotic U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and the return to power of the Taliban, the faction that sheltered the al-Qaida terror network founded by Osama bin Laden that carried out the attacks.
The Taliban’s new Prime Minister Mohammad Hasan Akhund raised the flag in a ceremony at 11 a.m. local time to mark the official start of work by the Taliban’s 33-member caretaker government, said Ahmadullahh Muttaqi, multimedia chief of the group’s cultural commission.
https://apnews.com/article/middle-ea...46bf312b3a8ac4
Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII
Taliban offered to give him up if US government would provide evidence, so whole ordeal could have been easily avoided if Bush just... provided evidence. So Afghan war is more on Bush, neocons and US intelligence then it is on taliban, objectively speaking.
Saudis are much more relevant then Taliban. Just like Taliban or ISIS, Saudi Arabia is a terrorist state and biggest funder of other terrorist groups (maybe only rivaled by CIA itself).
It is interesting that both wings of globalist uniparty are actively simping for Saudis, despite the fact that they always went against US interests and killed thousands of American citizens in 911 attacks.
Low effort trolling and Taliban propaganda aside, the Taliban deflected US demands by asserting the Jews did 9/11, and the onus was on the US to disprove the conspiracy theory before American demands could even be discussed.
Originally Posted by Wiki
Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII
No, Taliban asked for evidence that bin Laden organized it and they offered to hand him in. I'm sure that if this was the case, Bush would have no problem presenting it. But he didn't , hence US government either lied about what happened or was incompetent.
Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII
To say what? I literally just said it - based on actual evidence and lack of thereof, Bush admin either lied (to cover up for its saudi sugar daddy), or US government and its military and intelligence were consistently run by chest-smacking morons. You get to pick, I personally think its combination of both
You disappoint me.
Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII
Osama bin Laden opposed the Saudi monarchy and criticized the KSA's relationship with the US (for which he was expelled from the country and had his citizenship revoked). The fact that he (and many of his allies) were Saudis doesn't mean that the KSA was responsible for 9/11 or that Bush attacked Afghanistan as a diversion.
Then Bush government would have no reasons not to provide evidence, but he didn't and documents in regards to Saudi involvement are still classified.
Also KSA "denouncing" Osama doesn't mean much, CIA and other Western intelligence agencies have long history of providing aid to terrorists and then cutting the paper trail if such relationship comes to light.
That's of course because he was. And it's of course by far not only the left. One must be living under a rock to not realize that.
I don't know how you manage to ignore the cognitive dissonance that just has to accrue in your mind, knowing that Trump wanted to leave Afghanistan just like Biden did, had he won the election.The fact that’s the best defense of Biden anyone can come up with shows just how miserably he has failed. Biden did not “stick to Trump’s peace deal.” Biden did his own thing, and deserves all the “credit.”
Let me also make use of this moment to state the obvious in casting doubt on the allegation that it's Biden's very own decision making and micromanaging that led to this result.
I see the failure mainly with the former Afghan leadership. They should have been prepared for this after twenty years. They outnumbered the Taliban 4:1, had armored vehicles and attack helicopters and the advantage of fortifications. Their weakness and cowardice is so astonishing and absurd, it almost looks like they wanted this outcome.
“ Trump would be worse because he’s the worst….it’s all the Afghans’ fault NATO ditched them in the middle of a civil war……Biden isn’t even in charge…….” And that’s the pro-Biden position lolol.
Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII
I may be anti Trump (like many republican governors and senators are if i may remind you of that) but I'm overall certainly not "pro Biden". I'm very, very neutral on that so far and I'm stating that it isn't obvious at all that it is all Biden's personal fault. Right?!
You're not pointing out any details, you're not giving any hypothesis as to what went wrong, you're just delivering a polemic remark that is supposed to be accepted as fact. Nobody even knows what you mean exactly except for some undifferentiated resentment against Biden's person. That's completely uninteresting. If you could care to point out in appropriate detail how and why mistakes were made that directly lead to Biden's person and not for example to US intelligence and military high command, I might very well change my mind, but that's not what you're doing.
Last edited by Lord Thesaurian; September 11, 2021 at 07:59 PM.
Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII
You're regarding the very fact that I have an opinion as proof for your polemic, oversimplified antagonisms. Do i have to explain why that is not satisfying?
Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII
I see. You're not interested in any kind of debate, you just want to do a little peepee. Seriously, what a waste of space and time. EOD *shrug