Discussion and Debate Community Thread

[Tango12345]

There is a consultation for a potential academy/mudpit rule change here. Please do have a look if you can.

[Prodromos]

Only 2 Iraqi translators who worked with U.S. troops got U.S. visas last year

The Trump administration has virtually closed the door on Iraqis who worked as interpreters for the American military, issuing only two U.S. visas to former interpreters last year, according to government statistics obtained by NBC News.

The interpreters have faced threats, abductions and attacks for their association with American forces, and hundreds have been killed by militants since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Former interpreter Shaker Jeffrey fled to Germany while awaiting admission to the United States, but he says that even there he has been targeted by the Islamic State group’s militants.

“I am a hunted man,” Jeffrey, who has been waiting for a visa for 10 years, said. “If I return to Iraq, I will be assassinated.”

Don't worry, Jeff. Trump is only against illegal immigration.

[Love Mountain]

What's your opinion on the matter?

[Prodromos]

Blanket immigration bans in general are pretty gross.

[Love Mountain]

Glad to hear it.

[Morticia Iunia Bruti]

Even the Times journalism isn't today anymore, what it was once:

https://twitter.com/BMVg_Bundeswehr/...54670599942144

[Prodromos]

A few months ago the NY Times thought the "Body of Christ" (as in, the Eucharist) referred to a statue of Jesus. The MSM is very low-energy these days.

A Priest Saved 'The Body of Christ' From Notre Dame, and NY Times Thought He Meant a Statue

There's the possibility of some sort of translation error, but the Times reporter in question appears to be fluent in French. No, something was lost in translation alright, but I suspect that it was just a case of good-old fashioned religious illiteracy. The guy assigned to report on the biggest religion story of the day was really that ignorant of one of the most important ceremonies in the dominant religion on both sides of the Atlantic.

Ironically, the phrase "body of Christ" has led to this sort of mix-up before. The Washington Post‘s Kathleen Parker was horrified, just horrified that Ted Cruz said during a rally that "the body of Christ" should "rise up" to support him. "I don’t know anyone who takes their religion seriously who would think that Jesus should rise from the grave and resurrect himself to serve Ted Cruz," she complained.

For someone so versed in religion, Parker somehow didn't know that "body of Christ" is also a widely-used metaphor that means the Church as a whole. Cruz wanted Christians to vote for him, not for Jesus to rise from the grave and give him a thumbs-up. (Christians don't even believe that Jesus has a grave to resurrect himself from. We plan to celebrate that this Sunday. It's not a big deal, just sort of the basis of our entire religion.)

Is it really too much to ask that the pundits who weigh in on and the journalists who report on Christian matters know the first thing about Christianity? It's embarrassing when reporters botch stories on say, Judaism (like the AP reporter who thought Jews "sit and shiver"), but ignorance of the religious practices of 2% of Americans is at least somewhat understandable. The mainstream media has shown time and time against that they are ignorant of the basics of the deeply-held beliefs of a majority of their fellow Americans.

[Morticia Iunia Bruti]

Trump cancels his visit to Poland on 1. September ( 80. anniversary of beginning of WW II /German Assault on Poland ) because of Hurricane "Dorian". Pence will fly instead.

[Cope]

A few months ago the NY Times thought the "Body of Christ" (as in, the Eucharist) referred to a statue of Jesus. The MSM is very low-energy these days.

A Priest Saved 'The Body of Christ' From Notre Dame, and NY Times Thought He Meant a Statue

How can anyone save the body of him who is already saved?

[Swiss Army Cheese]

So if bread is the body of Christ, does that mean that every time someone makes leavened bread Christ rises again?

[irontaino]

A few months ago the NY Times thought the "Body of Christ" (as in, the Eucharist) referred to a statue of Jesus. The MSM is very low-energy these days.

A Priest Saved 'The Body of Christ' From Notre Dame, and NY Times Thought He Meant a Statue

So he saved some crackers?

[Aexodus]

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-..._medium=social

Let’s worship at the altar of diversity shall we.

It’s painful how blind people are to the fact that this is racial and sexual discrimination.

[Love Mountain]

Step one to White Genocide. Start moving portraits of distinguished white men.

[Diocle]

Step one to White Genocide. Start moving portraits of distinguished white men.

Well, starting with this one would be absolutely cool but ..

.. I fear that those who should move them would disagree, crying about the usual evil Fascist plot.

[Cope]

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-..._medium=social

Let’s worship at the altar of diversity shall we.

It’s painful how blind people are to the fact that this is racial and sexual discrimination.

They aren't blind to it - they just welcome it.

[Aexodus]

Step one to White Genocide. Start moving portraits of distinguished white men.

When did I mention white genocide

[Cope]

When did I mention white genocide

Pretty standard rhetorical fallacy.

[Love Mountain]

When did I mention white genocide

You’re so concerned with the action of removing a portrait wall consisting overwhelmingly of old White men, you don’t ever consider the possible context of the wall. Are there other distinguished people they could’ve up there? Does the wall accurately represent the diversity of the distinguished alumni who went there? Is it wrong to want to send a message of diversity?

You jump immediately to counter-sexism and racism instead. It’s a knee jerk reaction to an article on an issue that you did not bother researching.

[Cope]

You’re so concerned with the action of removing a portrait wall consisting overwhelmingly of old White men, you don’t ever consider the possible context of the wall. Are there other distinguished people they could’ve up there? Does the wall accurately represent the diversity of the distinguished alumni who went there? Is it wrong to want to send a message of diversity?

You jump immediately to counter-sexism and racism instead. It’s a knee jerk reaction to an article on an issue that you did not bother researching.

Platitudes about "diversity"? Check.
Contemptuous of white males? Check.

I classify this post as woke.

[Aexodus]

You’re so concerned with the action of removing a portrait wall consisting overwhelmingly of old White men, you don’t ever consider the possible context of the wall. Are there other distinguished people they could’ve up there?

As far as I know, no.

Does the wall accurately represent the diversity of the distinguished alumni who went there? Is it wrong to want to send a message of diversity?

Yes; academic achievement is more important.

You jump immediately to counter-sexism and racism instead. It’s a knee jerk reaction to an article on an issue that you did not bother researching.

What context is there to know that I should have researched.