Discussion and Debate Community Thread

[Heathen Hammer]

Reminds me of how ISIS and Taliban destroyed ancient artefacts for being "pagan". Kinda goes to show that woke cultists are irrational and dangerous people.

[Vanoi]

Reminds me of how ISIS and Taliban destroyed ancient artefacts for being "pagan". Kinda goes to show that woke cultists are irrational and dangerous people.

The statue wasn't destroyed so how is this like ISIS and the Taliban? And these statues also aren't ancient artifacts. Just statues of some traitors.

[Heathen Hammer]

The statue wasn't destroyed so how is this like ISIS and the Taliban? And these statues also aren't ancient artifacts. Just statues of some traitors.

The statue was destroyed in similar fashion to what ISIS was doing in the Middle East. Lee represents his state and the Southern side of UCW. Russians now have plenty of statues to White Army generals and only communist radicals cry about them.
People that support statue destruction, any statue, should be viewed as same as members of ISIS/Taliban and should be considered a national security threat.

[Vanoi]

The statue was destroyed in similar fashion to what ISIS was doing in the Middle East.

Nope. The statue was not destroyed.

Workers used a power saw to cut the statue in two along the general's waist, so that it can be hauled under highway overpasses to an undisclosed state-owned facility until a decision is made about its final disposition.

It's fairly obvious you didn't the article. No surprise there.

Lee represents his state and the Southern side of UCW. Russians now have plenty of statues to White Army generals and only communist radicals cry about them.

Yes Lee represented the traitorous Confederate states. I already mentioned that.

People that support statue destruction, any statue, should be viewed as same as members of ISIS/Taliban and should be considered a national security threat.

Good thing no statue was destroyed here.

[Heathen Hammer]

It was cut into pieces, as per the link you yourself posted. Just goes to show that the only difference between western woke lunatics and ISIS is that at least ISIS had courage to fight for its beliefs.
Neither Confederate states nor their generals were traitorous, calling them such seems somewhat... neurotic, just FYI.
I hope they put more statues for them in Red states.

[Vanoi]

It was cut into pieces, as per the link you yourself posted.

Yes for transportation. As my article states the statue was not destroyed and a final decision on its fate has yet to be made.

Just goes to show that the only difference between western woke lunatics and ISIS is that at least ISIS had courage to fight for its beliefs.
Neither Confederate states nor their generals were traitorous, calling them such seems somewhat... neurotic, just FYI.
I hope they put more statues for them in Red states.

Actually they were traitors. They joined in rebellion against the United States government with many Confederate generals being US generals before they defected over. There's no other word to describe them.

Build more statues? Go ahead lol. They tend to keep getting taken down so I'm not worried.

[Coughdrop addict]

HH, you're free to build your own statue of Lee or Trump or Dylan Roof or anybody else on your own property, with your own money. The majority has decided that monuments celebrating traitors and glorying slavery, that were erected within the last century specifically to intimidate Blacks into accepting being second-class citizens and spread the myth that the Confederacy wasn't built on the idea that Blacks were less than human, are not something we want in our public spaces or maintained with our taxes.

Once again, YOU can proudly display a statue of Osama bin Laden or Jeffrey Dahmer or Heinrich Himmler or whoever else you want and tell everyone who will listen that they were the real victims and had lots of good qualities that the liberal media overlooks, on YOUR property. But we aren't going to let you do so in our public spaces with our tax dollars.

[Heathen Hammer]

Defending Lee statue destruction is same as defending ISIS blowing up ruins in Palmyra or Taliban blowing up those Buddhist monuments in the 1990s. You are destroying a cultural artefact because it goes against your wack ideology.
Also rebelling against the government doesn't make you a traitor. Otherwise US itself is a traitor nation, given how it itself rebelled against the Brits.

[Vanoi]

Defending Lee statue destruction

Statue still isn't destroyed.

is same as defending ISIS blowing up ruins in Palmyra or Taliban blowing up those Buddhist monuments in the 1990s. You are destroying a cultural artefact because it goes against your wack ideology.

The statue isn't an artifact.

Also rebelling against the government doesn't make you a traitor. Otherwise US itself is a traitor nation, given how it itself rebelled against the Brits.

Yes it does and yes us Americans technically were.

[Lord Thesaurian]

The craven barbarity of Trump/Biden’s surrender:

Twenty years ago, 19 savages commandeered four commercial airliners carrying unsuspecting civilian passengers and used them to take down New York’s World Trade Center towers and crash into the Pentagon. The one likely destined for the Capitol was brought down only because of the heroics of a few brave Americans who refused to surrender.

We know who and what they are. We have labeled them as terrorists and placed bounties on the heads of some of their leaders. Yet it takes immense resources, tenacity and, sadly, loss of lives to fight them. The effort and cost can be enervating. We grow tired; we want to wish them away. We start to forget.

So we talked ourselves into believing in a kinder, gentler Taliban. We promised to leave its territory and allowed the Afghan government to release into the world thousands of captured terrorists. We decided, with unthinking irony, to “honor” the victims of 9/11 by selecting that date for our surrender to the very same Taliban who had spawned the devastation of that day.

We will sadly soon realize: We can fool ourselves into thinking that we have made peace with terrorists. But terrorism has not made peace with us.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...orgetting-911/

[Sir Adrian]

Kim Jong Un made his first public appearance in month. Lost 20 kilos and changed his haircut.

[Hobbes]

Kim Jong Un made his first public appearance in month. Lost 20 kilos and changed his haircut.

The parade came as the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization said in July that food shortages in the country were at crisis levels, Nikkei Asia reported.

good job getting your priorities straight, NK.

[Lord Thesaurian]

Biden to vaccine mandate legal challengers: 'Have at it'

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...lengers-511129

Such a miserable, mewling excuse of a man.

[Heathen Hammer]

I have to say, US government trying to flex on its own citizens literally mere weeks after getting teabagged by a bunch of inbred fundamentalists signals critical lack of self-awareness... or intentional sabotage.
Perhaps that's something Biden's Chinese handlers want? Destabilize the US to the point where it suffers constitutional crisis or even balkanization and civil war and enjoy the new spot as biggest geopolitical power. Even if Americans manage to wrestle their country's control back from cosmopolitan megacorporation oligarchy, it will still take US years to recover.

[Lord Thesaurian]

U.N. sees massive drop in COVID vaccinations in Afghanistan after Taliban takeover

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...er-2021-08-25/

>Reinvades


Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Biden took such a hardline stance just to create controversy and distract the public from the Afghanistan disaster in the hopes we’ll be too busy fighting over vaccines to remember by the time the midterms roll around. The lawyers are already mobilizing. I expect this will drag well into next year.

[Coughdrop addict]

Such a miserable, mewling excuse of a man.

Other people aren't willing to die for your beliefs/ego anymore. You want a war, you can fight it yourself. Or is risking your own hide where you draw the line?

[swabian]

As if Trump would have done any better. The misery would be all the more cause for ridicule, rest assured of that @ Thesaurian.

[Lord Thesaurian]

Other people aren't willing to die for your beliefs/ego anymore. You want a war, you can fight it yourself. Or is risking your own hide where you draw the line?

Appealing to the majority doesn’t mean much given Americans would have preferred to leave a small force to support the Afghan government, and more now disapprove than approve of Biden’s performance. I draw the line at aiding, abetting, and surrendering to America’s enemies, who will continue to target and kill Americans.

All this has created the idea that the Taliban and the Islamic State-Khorasan are at odds. The Biden administration in part depended on that, as it looked to the Taliban to provide security against possible Islamic State-Khorasan attacks on the evacuation. This was in practice, though there has, in fact, been a tactical and strategic convergence between the Islamic State-Khorasan and the Haqqanis, if not the entirety of the Taliban. The Taliban are comprised of several factions, each with their own leadership, structure, and control of Afghan territory. Principally, they share common enemies: the former Afghan government of Ashraf Ghani and the West, which once stood in their way but are now opting for a speedy exit from Afghanistan.

The murky nature of Islamic State-Khorasan’s relationship with the Haqqani network as well as Pakistani terrorist groups presents a complex arrangement of tacit cooperation between several terrorist organizations. So do its intricate ties to the Pakistani military and intelligence community. That has dire implications for Afghan and global security, especially as Pakistan is so keen for the international community to recognize and legitimize the Taliban.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/08/26...islamic-state/

Shilling for Biden as though he’s done anything worth celebrating won’t change the facts.

As if Trump would have done any better. The misery would be all the more cause for ridicule, rest assured of that @ Thesaurian.

That’s entirely speculative, and doesn’t mean much, given the left derided Trump as the worst POTUS in modern history, if not ever. The fact that’s the best defense of Biden anyone can come up with shows just how miserably he has failed. Biden did not “stick to Trump’s peace deal.” Biden did his own thing, and deserves all the “credit.”

[Infidel144]

That’s entirely speculative, and doesn’t mean much, given the left derided Trump as the worst POTUS in modern history, if not ever. The fact that’s the best defense of Biden anyone can come up with shows just how miserably he has failed. Biden did not “stick to Trump’s peace deal.” Biden did his own thing, and deserves all the “credit.”

Means even less, considering you were against Trump's withdrawal as well.
So consistency.
Unlike Biden bootlicks who were throwing fits about Trump traitorously abandoning allies, but Biden('s handlers) doing it (and screwing up) is the bestest most greatest thing ever...

[Lord Thesaurian]

#NeverForget