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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    The U.S. Air Force Just Admitted The F-35 Stealth Fighter Has Failed


    This was one project USA wasn't supposed to fail. Its saddening to see this.
    Really depends on how you see it. The Israelis like their F-35s. I think the project was just too ambitious. The F-35 just isn't that great of a fighter. F-22 was supposed to help in that regard but the US doesn't have very many of them nor is the US bothering to build anymore.

    I don't see the point though in starting another fighter project when the US just built a new prototype fighter.

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    Female Call of Duty: Mobile Player Stabbed to Death By Fellow Brazilian Player



    Brazilian Call of Duty: Mobile Ingrid “Sol” Oliveira Bueno da Silva was allegedly stabbed to death on Monday (February 22) by a another CODM player in Pirituba, a neighborhood north of São Paulo in Brazil. She was 19 years old.

    According to According to ESPN Brazil, Oliveira Bueno da Silva's body was found at the home of Guilherme Alves “Flashlight” Costa, who reportedly recorded a video admitting to the crime on his mobile phone before sharing it with a group of CODM players on WhatsApp, including a gaming organization called Gamers Elite Clan.

    It is also alleged that Costa sent images of Oliveira Bueno da Silva's body to group chats on WhatsApp before fleeing the crime scene. He, however, turned himself in to the police at the advice of his brother. Costa reportedly told police that his “sanity is completely fit” and that the murder was premeditated.
    According to several news reports, Oliveira Bueno da Silva met Costa through CODM and kept in touch for a month. On February 22, the victim visited Costa at his home before she was stabbed to death. Costa reportedly planned the murder in a small notebook, which has been seized by the police.
    Oliveira Bueno da Silva was an up-and-coming player in the Brazilian CODM scene. She played for the FBI Esports organization, and fellow COD organisation Jaguares Esports expressed their condolences and urged the authorities to deliver swift justice.
    “It is with deep sadness that Jaguares Esports wishes strength to SOL’s family and the FBI Esports team. We are all in mourning. Rest in peace and justice be done,” they said.

    Meanwhile, according to Win.GG, Gamers Elite issued a statement denying any involvement in the incident and advising its members not to share any of the pictures of videos sent by Costa.


    “This Monday afternoon, (Guilherme) sent a video on the organization's group on WhatsApp in which he supposedly had just killed a woman, filmed and shared the video. He also sent a PDF where he leaves messages of hatred against Christians and makes a nod to terrorism. After the clan leadership became aware of what happened, we organized ourselves and took necessary measures: We informed the appropriate authorities and asked all our members not to share the video of the alleged crime," Gamers Elite said.
    According to IPEA’s Atlas of Violence 2020, a woman is murdered in Brazil every two hours in 2018. Prior to her death, Oliveira Bueno da Silva actively worked with the Battle Girls organization, which spearheaded the BG project to create a safe space for women in esports.



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    On spiegel.de a email of Costa is quoted, that he has developed a 'hatred against women during the last years".

    So high likely another crime of an 'heterosexual, straight, male' incel ...

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    Homicide statistics marginalise women, and are inherently patriarchal. How shall we address this structural imbalance?
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    For those, who belong not to the anti-left hatespeech club, and make themself funny about the murder of a young woman or the 4500 killed women in Brazil because they were women and are really interested in the topic of femicide:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide
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    What about the 54,000 dead Brazilian men.
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    What about the 54,000 dead Brazilian men.
    Why did you feel the need to talk about men in response to talking about women?
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    Because men are the primary victim of homicide everywhere in the world and sexist notions such as femicide exist only to draw attention away from that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    Why did you feel the need to talk about men in response to talking about women?
    Come on, it's not exactly rocket science.

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    Homicide statistics marginalise women, and are inherently patriarchal. How shall we address this structural imbalance?
    Enforce equity...

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    Il Duce Cuomo, the Emmy Award winning seniorcide, governor New York is being 'me-too'd':
    "A former member of Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s administration who previously accused him of sexual harassment offered new details Wednesday, saying he once kissed her on the lips without consent after a private meeting.

    Lindsey Boylan said that during her more than three years working as an economic adviser in the administration, Cuomo “would go out of his way to touch me on my lower back, arms and legs,” compared her to one of his rumored ex-girlfriends and once joked they should play strip poker."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    What about the men.
    What part of "murdered because they were women" you dont understand? Those 54,000 dead Brazilian men were killed because they were considered a property of their murderers, because their murderers "couldn't live without them" or something like that?
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    What part of "murdered because they were women" you dont understand? Those 54,000 dead Brazilian men were killed because they were considered a property of their murderers, because their murderers "couldn't live without them" or something like that?
    The chart displays the total number of homicide victims and divides them by gender; it does not claim that the 4500 female victims were "murdered because they were women". Even so, gender-based violence isn't necessarily more egregious than other forms of violence.



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    What part of "murdered because they were women" you dont understand? Those 54,000 dead Brazilian men were killed because they were considered a property of their murderers, because their murderers "couldn't live without them" or something like that?
    The chart doesn't say why or how those people were killed only that they were. The idea that those women were killed because they were women is just as valid as those men being killed because they are men. Constructing narratives to make the numbers work is not an honest discussion tactic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by makawa View Post
    What part of "murdered because they were women" you don't understand? Those 54,000 dead Brazilian men were killed because they were considered a property of their murderers, because their murderers "couldn't live without them" or something like that?
    Look if a mod says its a suitable joke then its fine. You could report something you find offensive but if nothing happens then clearly its OK. Why Brazil? Not sure. That's where the humorous statistics above waves of murders came from I guess and its funny because any society with a huge amount of violence is funny.

    Don't you get the joke? When women complain about being raped, subjected to domestic violence, or treated as inferior, a nice joke about being murdered will cheer them up. I guess they should smile more.

    I see from recent crime statistics our friends in Ulster are more likely to be violent toward women than men. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ms-age-gender/

    It might be funny to joke about men from Northern Ireland volunteering to get their heads kicked in as a measure of equality. See? Funny.

    It might be funny to joke about religious or ethnic groups too. Like joking about Protestants stealing land in Ulster and evicting and killing the Irish there, so for the sake of equality the Ulster protestants should be evicted or killed. Bingo, equality. Haha.

    You see exactly how funny it is? No need to get triggered like a snowflake, have a sense of humour.
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    So if I understand this, the topic that was introduced is a news story concerning gender related hate crime and this is being marginalized by discussing homicide in general. If you do not want to discuss the issue then why bother responding at all?

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    The topic that was introduced is one homicide related to video-games, not gender, which was then artificially spined to be about gender and extended over all homicides in a petty attempt to play the political persecution and the gender victim card.
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    It appears a significant degree of the disparities in partner violence are attributable to differences In reporting and likelihood of injury given males possess greater physical strength on average.
    In recent years, researchers have begun to extend this body of research to examine female perpetration of violence in intimate relationships. There is increasing evidence to suggest that women commit as much or more IPV [Intimate Partner Violence] as men (Archer, 2000; Melton & Belknap, 2003). Among adolescents, research consistently shows that females perpetrate more acts of violence in intimate relationships than males (Arriaga & Foshee, 2004; Foshee et al., 1996; Hickman, Jaycox, & Aronoff, 2004; Lichter & McCloskey, 2004; Munoz-Rivas, Grana, O'Leary, & Gonzalez, 2007; Schwartz, O'Leary, & Kendziora, 1997; Spencer & Bryant, 2000; Wolfe et al., 2001). In addition, data also suggest that females who perpetrate IPV may experience more violent or frequent IPV victimization (Bennett & Fineran, 1998; Capaldi & Owen, 2001; Kernsmith, 2005; Luthra & Gidycz, 2006; Milan, Lewis, Ethier, Kershaw, & Ickovics, 2005).

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    Meta-analyses of sex differences in physical aggression to heterosexual partners and in its physical consequences are reported. Women were slightly more likely (d = -.05) than men to use one or more act of physical aggression and to use such acts more frequently.Men were more likely (d = .15) to inflict an injury, and overall, 62% of those injured by a partner were women. The findings partially support previous claims that different methods of measurement produce conflicting results, but there was also evidence that the sample was an important moderator of effect size.

    Four variables were also used to assess a specific hypothesis. I predicted that in dating relationships, w hich are typically found at younger ages and in student sam ples, m en w ould be m ore inhibited about using physical aggression toward their partners than would be the case for m en in m ore established (m arried or cohabiting) relationships, w hich are typically found at older ages. The ratio- nale is that w om en in dating relationships can term inate these m ore easily than they can a cohabiting or m arital relationship and also can make it widely known to the peer group that the man had been violent. A study com paring rates of m en-only and w om en-only partner physical aggression in dating, cohabiting, and marital relationships (Stets & Straus, 1989) found a much greater disparity in dating relationships. Here, women were about four times more likely than men to be the only one of the couple aggressing. In the other two cases, the proportions were similar for the two sexes.

    One possible consequence of men being inhibited about using physical aggression tow ard a dating partner w ould be to m ake it safer for w om en to use acts of physical aggression. Fiebert and Gonzalez (1997) found, among a sample of female college stu- dents, that 29% admitted initiating assaults on a male partner. Of these, around half said that they had no fear of retaliation or that, because m en could easily defend them selves, they regarded their own physical aggression as not a problem. This reasoning would lead to the prediction that a larger effect size in the female direction w ould be associated w ith relationships that involve a lower proportion of men who show physical aggression to a partner and that these relationships typically involve dating rather than cohabitation or marriage. Two confounds in this analysis are that dating relationships occur at younger ages than cohabiting or marital relationships and that they have typically been studied in student rather than community samples. These two variables were therefore included in the analysis, the sam ple being dum m y coded as student or com m unity.

    Therefore, according to self-reports, women are more likely than men to commit acts of physical aggression, whereas accord- ing to partner reports, their respective levels are sim ilar, although this is attributable to the outliers. This discrepancy posed a problem of how to proceed with the meta-analysis. Several studies used com posite m easures, derived from both self- and partner reports, and the majority of other studies included both values. Therefore, I considered that a com posite value w ould best reflect the overall central tendency across all studies. A t the sam e tim e, so as not to ignore the discrepancy between the sources of information, I calculated separate values for self- and partner reports when car- rying out the categorical m odel testing.

    When measures were based on specific acts, women were sig- nificantly more likely than men to have used physical aggression toward their partners and to have used it more frequently, although the effect size was very small (d =.05). When measures were based on the physical consequences of aggression (visible injuries or injuries requiring medical treatment), men were more likely than women to have injured their partners, but again, effect sizes were relatively small (d = .15 and .08)

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    Female Call of Duty: Mobile Player Stabbed to Death By Fellow Brazilian Player
    That would have been avoided if knives were illegal..
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    Legio, size or physical strength have nothing to do with considering that because you are a woman you are an object, a possession, something disposable or something that must be controlled or supressed. Everything you have exposed is nothing more than cheap words to deny the fact that machismo kills.

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    @Proddomos:

    Yeah, i guess that's the point, if a women is stabbed to death, the murderer had made a movie about it and had sent the movie to its's incel buddies...

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    changing the subject. I've been watching documentaries about serial killers lately. guess what.
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