Liberals versus Conservatives: A Debate Between Ideologies

[Da Skinna]

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Yes, there's more liberal thinkers on this site than right-wing conservative thinkers on this site.

Is that bad? Not really, those few conservatives on here hold up their arguments very well, until it comes to something ridiculous like human rights, and then it just becomes a matter of belief and interpretation based on some things that should only affect our personal lives, not national policy...

EDIT: The above was not meant to be liberal or conservative, but realist and humane.

[alman9898]

Many online forums that are open to debate tend to have more liberals than conservatives.

[Niles Crane]

And that's a bad thing how?

It means the Conservatives feel isolated and unloved.

[Da Skinna]

It means the Conservatives feel isolated and unloved.

Well good thing conservatives don't run on love...

[The White Knight]

It means the Conservatives feel isolated and unloved.

Aw, here's a caring kiss Livia. It's slightly poisoned -liberally, but it's the gesture that counts.

[Last Roman]

It means the Conservatives feel isolated and unloved.

just the way it should be.



I kid of course.

[Rush Limbaugh]

Maybe we should open a special forum for conservatives.
It should contain just one topic, which should be locked and containing just one post: "The Bible tells you everything you need to know".

So only conservatives are bible thumpers and the vast majority of them are? Or do all conservatives think this way. Talk about generalization. In fact most conservatives dont think that way.

Debating is a liberal concept.

Well debating using the facts is not something liberals relish. They always make an emotional appeal.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Exactly.

[Da Skinna]

So only conservatives are bible thumpers and the vast majority of them are? Or do all conservatives think this way. Talk about generalization. In fact most conservatives dont think that way.

But more conservatives think along those lines than do liberals...

Rarely do I see a Bible-thumping Democrat/Liberal.

Exactly.

Exactly.

[Erik]

So only conservatives are bible thumpers and the vast majority of them are? Or do all conservatives think this way. Talk about generalization. In fact most conservatives dont think that way.

It's not generalization but part of their definition.

Conservative = somebody who wants to stick with the old, and in Christian countries this means Christian values and Church rules.

Liberal = somebody who wants personal freedom, and this includes freedom of expression/speech, open debate, right to question the Church etc.

Conservatives used to execute liberals on even the slightest hint of them debating the Church rules.

[Da Skinna]

Conservatives used to execute liberals on even the slightest hint of them debating the Church rules.

Why can't that be brought back?

Oh right, we don't live like that anymore.

[Last Roman]

Well debating using the facts is not something liberals relish. They always make an emotional appeal.

And conservatives using religion (face it, many do) is any better?

[Rush Limbaugh]

Rarely do I see a Bible-thumping Democrat/Liberal.

Hmmm
Howq about the Reverand Jesse Jackson or the Reverand Al Sharpton to name a few. Its always the democrats I see campaining in the black churches during election time.

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Research kitchen... reaching for an oversized chrome spoon he gathers an
Intimate quantity of dried muffin remnants and brushing his scapular aside
Procceds to dump these inside of his shirt...
He turns to us and speaks:

Some people like cupcakes better. I for one care less for them!

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Anointment utensil he poots forth a quarter-ounce green rosette
Near the summit of a dense but radiant muffin of his own design.
Later he says:

Some people... some people like cupcakes exclusively, while myself, I say
There is naught nor ought there be nothing so exalted on the face of gods grey
Earth as that prince of foods... the muffin!

Girl you thought he was a man
But he was a muffin
He hung around till you found
That he didnt know nuthin

Girl you thought he was a man
But he only was a-puffin
No cries is heard in the night
As a result of him stuffin

Wheres Don Pardo. Great guitar solo here. Nice to see more Zappa fans .

The biggest problem (and yet the strongest faculty) of American liberals is that they believe everything can be explained with reason. This is a good ideal.

No with emotion. Its us conservatives who try to use reason and facts.

And conservatives using religion (face it, many do) is any better?

And so do liberals. It all depends upon their constituency.

[Erik]

Maybe we should open a special forum for conservatives.
It should contain just one topic, which should be locked and containing just one post: "The Bible tells you everything you need to know".

Debating is a liberal concept.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[Carach]

Maybe we should open a special forum for conservatives.
It should contain just one topic, which should be locked and containing just one post: "The Bible tells you everything you need to know".

wow thats one hell of a generalisation erik.

im not a religious person erik, i never got baptised, never really went to church except for special occasions and i certainly dont believe everything the pope and co. say.

and im (according to you), im a neo-con.

[KaerMorhen]

im not a religious person erik, i never got baptised, never really went to church except for special occasions and i certainly dont believe everything the pope and co. say.
and im (according to you), im a neo-con.

same as myself except for I'm baptised, follow Ten Commandments and that's it!

[Erik]

same as myself except for I'm baptised, follow Ten Commandments and that's it!

But are you a conservative?
Or do you just call yourself a conservative?
I was talking about true conservatives, and there are very few of those left (just like there are very few true liberals).

Troll Removed - JP

[KaerMorhen]

But are you a conservative?
Or do you just call yourself a conservative?
I was talking about true conservatives, and there are very few of those left (just like there are very few true liberals).

A short description of true conservative if you care. I ain't purist or alikes if you had that on your mind.

[Da Skinna]

And the muffin-man. Can't forget the muffin-man.

[Fenris]

Conservatives have always criticised progressive politics, but conservatives of the next generation would not opt for a come back, but against further progress. That is the whole hypocrisy of conservative ideology. Do you think that the United States were created by conservatives? Back then they were very progressive. I am not making the apology of all the liberal ideas, far from it, because not all liberal ideas are progressive and not all in a good way, however I am criticising conservatives (and by it's universal definition, not the american one).

And the muffin-man. Can't forget the muffin-man.

The muffin man is seated at the table in the laboratory of the utility muffin
Research kitchen... reaching for an oversized chrome spoon he gathers an
Intimate quantity of dried muffin remnants and brushing his scapular aside
Procceds to dump these inside of his shirt...
He turns to us and speaks:

Some people like cupcakes better. I for one care less for them!

Arrogantly twisting the sterile canvas snoot of a fully charged icing
Anointment utensil he poots forth a quarter-ounce green rosette
Near the summit of a dense but radiant muffin of his own design.
Later he says:

Some people... some people like cupcakes exclusively, while myself, I say
There is naught nor ought there be nothing so exalted on the face of gods grey
Earth as that prince of foods... the muffin!

Girl you thought he was a man
But he was a muffin
He hung around till you found
That he didnt know nuthin

Girl you thought he was a man
But he only was a-puffin
No cries is heard in the night
As a result of him stuffin

[Evariste]

Well, you guys have to understand that this forum has a significant European popluation, and even the most mainstream conservative European is more liberal that the most mainstream liberal American. That sentence was a bit awkward, here's a diagram:





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