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    Default Battle of Blackfire Pass video is riddle with lag spikes

    am I the one only who is noticing those jerky fps jumps during certain moments in the video like for instance at 7.10 , 4.47?
    they become really noticeable if you watch the video with atleast hd 760p 60 fps quality.
    If this game will run just as bad as attila does on my pc (gtx 980 ti and an intel i5 4690k, the game still drops below 30 zoomed in during combat even on performance settings),then i simply cant play it nor buy.

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    Default Re: Battle of Blackfire Pass video is riddle with lag spikes

    Yes, the framerate is not consistent. I wonder if CA will be able to optimize this without sacrificing too much fidelity.
    Shogun 2 was well optimized, Rome 2 was not and I hear that Atilla is worse than Rome 2. (BTW is MSAA anti-aliasing in Atilla?, Rome 2 only had FXAA. Shogun 2 had MSAA up to x8)The meleé clashes seem to be very intensive on the CPU, all those synced animations combined with models clipping through each other. Directx 12 could probably be good for removing some of those cpu restrictions, but I'm not educated enough on this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg View Post
    Yes, the framerate is not consistent. I wonder if CA will be able to optimize this without sacrificing too much fidelity.
    Shogun 2 was well optimized, Rome 2 was not and I hear that Atilla is worse than Rome 2. (BTW is MSAA anti-aliasing in Atilla?, Rome 2 only had FXAA. Shogun 2 had MSAA up to x8)The meleé clashes seem to be very intensive on the CPU, all those synced animations combined with models clipping through each other. Directx 12 could probably be good for removing some of those cpu restrictions, but I'm not educated enough on this matter.
    i really want to buy this game once it comes out. But I cant stand the lag.

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    I've said on another thread, I hope them downing the max units from 40 to 20 will hopefully mean they can up performance with the models and naturally make them look smoother. I hope we don't see a repeat of Rome 2's launch and see the horror faces again.

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    luckely its possible to refund games now on steam. whic means I will be able test the game for an hour and see how it runs. incase it should be too laggy I can simply refund the game and get back my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drahcir View Post
    I've said on another thread, I hope them downing the max units from 40 to 20 will hopefully mean they can up performance with the models and naturally make them look smoother. I hope we don't see a repeat of Rome 2's launch and see the horror faces again.
    I wish they'd just default it to 40, leave an option for 20 or something, but also allow unlimited so mods with future hardware can go crazy. We'll see.

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    To be honest, with that ''Pre-Alpha'' stamp in the corner, i aint trusting jack crap that this trailer has to show me. I'll sit tight, CA and wait for the inevitable proper reviews to come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosuchname View Post
    If this game will run just as bad as attila does on my pc (gtx 980 ti and an intel i5 4690k, the game still drops below 30 zoomed in during combat even on performance settings),then i simply cant play it nor buy.
    If You cant play the game like this because of " only" 30 fps ... better go and rethink your priorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alterart View Post
    If You cant play the game like this because of " only" 30 fps ... better go and rethink your priorities.
    I actually use MSI afterburner to restrict my fps to below 30 as it still looks great and my cpu doesn't work itself into a heart attack trying to keep up. I heard that the human eye can't see beyond 30fps anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldwin of Jerusalem View Post
    I actually use MSI afterburner to restrict my fps to below 30 as it still looks great and my cpu doesn't work itself into a heart attack trying to keep up. I heard that the human eye can't see beyond 30fps anyway?
    Is that genuine question? if so it's a lie

    Quote Originally Posted by Alterart View Post
    If You cant play the game like this because of " only" 30 fps ... better go and rethink your priorities.
    60fps is objectively better than 30 without a doubt and i know many people including my self who can't stand 30fps in games, i have the same cpu as him except with an overclocked 760 if Attila really performs that badly i'm glad i skipped it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alterart View Post
    If You cant play the game like this because of " only" 30 fps ... better go and rethink your priorities.
    I am talking about dropping BELOW 30 fps. I would be more than happy if I have 30 fps all the time but the drops even below 20 fps zoomed in during melee combat, whic is unplayable for me

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    Default Re: Battle of Blackfire Pass video is riddle with lag spikes

    I am no 60 fps nerd, but I like to play attila total war atleast without dropping below 30 fps

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    Default Re: Battle of Blackfire Pass video is riddle with lag spikes

    Quote Originally Posted by nosuchname View Post
    I am no 60 fps nerd, but I like to play attila total war atleast without dropping below 30 fps
    I actually found that games are a lot more satisfying to play with higher fps than with better graphics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HigoChumbo View Post
    I actually found that games are a lot more satisfying to play with higher fps than with better graphics.
    The only way to get ride of those framrate issues is by putting unit detail on max performance which is unacceptable. I just want the game to look like rome 2 except for faces and perform like rome 2. Seriously I am rome 2 on extreme setting including a few graphical mods without performance issues while at the time I cant even run attila smoithly on performance settings. If I am supposed to run attila on low settings than I could just as well play babarian invasion

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    Default Re: Battle of Blackfire Pass video is riddle with lag spikes

    Quote Originally Posted by nosuchname View Post
    The only way to get ride of those framrate issues is by putting unit detail on max performance which is unacceptable. I just want the game to look like rome 2 except for faces and perform like rome 2. Seriously I am rome 2 on extreme setting including a few graphical mods without performance issues while at the time I cant even run attila smoithly on performance settings. If I am supposed to run attila on low settings than I could just as well play babarian invasion
    Or do what I do, spend money to get those sweet 60 fps. I won't accept anything below 60fps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg View Post
    Or do what I do, spend money to get those sweet 60 fps. I won't accept anything below 60fps.
    already spent money on a gtx 980 ti and intel i5 4690k. I have a hard time believe that you get 60 fps while zooming in

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    Default Re: Battle of Blackfire Pass video is riddle with lag spikes

    Unless you guys are playing at ridiculous resolutions (in which case it's pretty much your fault for choosing unnecesarily high ones) then either Attila is the most poorly optimized game in history or I just can't believe you are not getting high framerates with those extremelly expensive monsters of hardware pieces.

    I mean, for 1080p, which is pretty much the industry standard right now, a gtx 970 is already kind of overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HigoChumbo View Post
    Unless you guys are playing at ridiculous resolutions (in which case it's pretty much your fault for choosing unnecesarily high ones) then either Attila is the most poorly optimized game in history or I just can't believe you are not getting high framerates with those extremelly expensive monsters of hardware pieces.

    I mean, for 1080p, which is pretty much the industry standard right now, a gtx 970 is already kind of overkill.
    i am playing the game at 1080p.blood and corpses are real performance killer of this game
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf0eWZesUjQ
    even If have put shadows and unitdetail on performance and all other settings on quality , i still get horrible fps during moshpits fight,
    the only way for me to get smooth fps is by putting unitdetail on max performance as I mentioned before.

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    it gets so laggy that even the shadows cant be rendered correctly anymore. however this only happened to me during the battle of dara. must be a bug

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    Is it possible you have AA at x2 or higher? I've just upgraded to a GTX 970 from 560 Ti, and it runs perfectly smooth at 60 FPS in any mid-sized battle (ultra unit scale and all settings on max quality), provided AA is set on MLAA and SSAO is disabled - the latter may or may not be necessary. With both of those on and at highest respectively, performance went down significantly to a mere 35 FPS on average. This with the same resolution as yours.

    Of course, I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't be using the highest AA option if you want to, but if that's the culprit here it might be worth checking on.
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