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    Yes, and the Rhun leader cavalry and elite infantry, the Loke-whatever.

    Athough by far, the Rhun, harad and Specially Mordor leaders escort cavalry are way overpowered.

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    Yes, Regnak's right. Rhun is distinctly inferior in missile weapons. Their main skirmishers use javelins, or rather they run into an arrowstorm waving them about. I imagine there's quite a lot of saleable javelins around in the entrails for an intrepid 2nd hand merchant. As for the Mumakil, I never met any. I suspect that was because I didn't know about the training ground bug till halfway through the campaign. However in other TW campaigns, elephants can be a major liability, so I would expect the same to be true here - hit them with fire weapons from archers or ballistas, or possibly catapults, and they should run amok.

    The troops that I found trouble from Harad was the Serpent Guard (foot and horse) and Lancers. They just seemed better than my soldiers and I lost several battles where it was roughly equal numbers. Harad has good archers inc HA (who can also charge into close combat) so I did not have the archery advantage I had over other factions. I could only raise my best troops in Esgaroth so it took many turns to get them to the battle sector, so I was reliant on the ordinary Dale troops I detailed above, and who I must say, rarely let me down.

    With the help of the advice from other posters, thanks! I basically just ground Trolls down, shot them up as much as possible, then when they were fighting the "meat shield", kept charging into them. Horribly bloody but it works, though I guess a largish number of Dale widows and orphans might disagree.

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    Yes, the high-powered Generals and their bodyguards are also dangerous, but I actually found them less of a hazard than the other things I have written about. I think that is because they were getting killed, not just by me, but also other factions, so there weren't that many about by later on, while I was husbanding my generals and trying not to get them killed, (and of course targetting the enemy generals) so my armies had generals in command, while theirs mostly had captains, which were not much to write home about.

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    Overall, I don't think I made any major mistakes strategically in the campaign. There were a few blunders, including attacking Moria and loosing the Balrog(s), but that was just stupidity/curiousity - I knew that would happen and did it anyway! One gripe is I never managed to get Olduvan Castle up to the next level. That might have helped with troop quality nearer the front line. It just grew so slowly and never reached 14,000 inhabitants. I should have perhaps put a gov in with a growth bonus, but they were all occupied in cities elsewhere.

    I don't think there is much replayabilty though. As far as I can see, the only option is to go for Rhun from the beginning. Any other approach will end in disaster. After you've duffed Rhun you will basically be in a war with Mordor so that dictates what you do next. I think I am going to try the SE next...

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    Default Re: How I turned Dale from a backwater to an Economic Superpower in 100 turns

    Quote Originally Posted by julianj99 View Post
    Overall, I don't think I made any major mistakes strategically in the campaign. There were a few blunders, including attacking Moria and loosing the Balrog(s), but that was just stupidity/curiousity - I knew that would happen and did it anyway! One gripe is I never managed to get Olduvan Castle up to the next level. That might have helped with troop quality nearer the front line. It just grew so slowly and never reached 14,000 inhabitants. I should have perhaps put a gov in with a growth bonus, but they were all occupied in cities elsewhere.

    I don't think there is much replayabilty though. As far as I can see, the only option is to go for Rhun from the beginning. Any other approach will end in disaster. After you've duffed Rhun you will basically be in a war with Mordor so that dictates what you do next. I think I am going to try the SE next...
    SE should be fun...a lot of options on how you proceed strategically...and their units are all pretty good.

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