Achilles-91 submod WIP

[achilles-91]

Hi all, Im back.

After computer problem, and losing all work I had zero will to come back to modding. However, here I am, again..I guess.. Again it hurts me to watch unlogical rosters, with 'double' units...with same role, at same date available...etc.. I want to fix those things... SSHIP is great mod, thats why i want to futher improve it..

Here is the thing... Lets think of western factions for example at 1300AD...They get dismounted chivalric knights, and dismounted men at arms... Almost same units. Example of making this function better is to make one unit polearm. Here I come with question, which one? I profit from any help.

I think it would be better to give dismounted chivalric knights polearms. Logic? they would be able to purchase better armor, so they would trade shield for extra killing power with polearm. Any opinions guys?
Here is tabel so far, im working on it for all factions.

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I plan to do it for all factions, for all eras. And then make submod based on it, if it doesnt get incorporated into main mod.
As you can see, there is tons of spear units, i think for example spearm militia and spearmen could be merged into one. Tell me your opinions about this also

LOOKING FOR:

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1) SOMEONE WHO CAN MERGE PARTS OF DIFFERENT UNITS INTO ONE (FOR EXAMPLE: UNIT 'A' HELMET, AND UNIT 'B' BODY, AND UNIT 'C' SHIELD)

2)SOMEONE WHO CAN DO EDB (I KNOW TO DO THIS, BUT I DONT HAVE TIME TO DO IT ALL)

3)SOMEONE WHO CAN SUGGEST BALANCED ROSTERS, ADDING SOME SPECIFIC UNITS

4) LIST OF LATE GAME UNITS THAT CAN BE DELETED, VERY LATE GAME UNITS, LIKE DEMI LANCERS. ALSO THERE IS POSIBILITY THAT I WILL DELETE UNITS AFTER 1500AD

CREDITS:
To be done

[Lifthrasir]

For personal use, you don't need permissions. But for public release, you must have them. That's the rules in TWC

Anyway, good luck with your submod

[Dekhatres]

is that bulat steel ? i downloaded it once just to jack unit from it but couldnt find anything intresting :O (probably got the wrong version)

[j.a.luna]

achilles you could add your units mod to sship...all could enjoy your submod and you could help me about the new roster faction units , so i can give you information,pictures, images for your units if you want..i hope your units submod

[achilles-91]

Thank you for support guys
Dekhatres, those units are from Bulat steel, but from submods of it I can send you links of that 2 submods if u want to try those units. I can also explain you how to install

[achilles-91]

I need some help with my submod. If I want to delete some unit, in order to make space for the new one, do I have to delete (for example Peasants) only in export_descr_units that units, or i also need to delete them also in battLe_models?

[Lifthrasir]

Have a look here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...unit-from-game
That should help you

[MWY]

You need to delete them from the edu, battle_models is basically an endless file so the entries can stay there. It's also important to delete those units from the descr_strat file, from the campaign_script file, from the descr_mercenaries file and from the descr_rebel_factions file. That should be it.

[achilles-91]

Thank you for help guys! I tried it, im doing it 3 hours already...But i am just failing add to completly new untis, game simply cant run. But still, thank you for your help. I guess about my submod, i will just have to 'reskin' existing units, and import new cards. I believe many would like that units, so you can incorporate them later in your main mod. Btw will there be some new units for Moors in next version?Or any Muslim faction? I know you doing already great job, i am just asking.

[Dekhatres]

Thank you for help guys! I tried it, im doing it 3 hours already...But i am just failing add to completly new untis, game simply cant run. But still, thank you for your help. I guess about my submod, i will just have to 'reskin' existing units, and import new cards. I believe many would like that units, so you can incorporate them later in your main mod. Btw will there be some new units for Moors in next version?Or any Muslim faction? I know you doing already great job, i am just asking.

you dont have to limit yourself just to reskining, by changing stats in EDU you can easily turn any unit into a completley diferent one, then just asign them the models and animation and you'r pretty much done, you dont really need to delete and add again, (unit limit is 500 btw, add 1 more and game will crash)

[achilles-91]

I know that, but im not that good at changing completly units ( for exampel : halberdiers, to moorish light infantry with axe and shield)
And i dont know how to change animations, thats main problem

[Lifthrasir]

I think you should keep this page in mind: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...rces-amp-Tools
You will find many useful tutorials, tools and resources for modding.

Regarding your project, have a look on the following pages:
EDU: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ort_Descr_Unit
EDB: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt..._Buildings-txt
ModelDB: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-more-readable

These should help you for a start. Also, don't hesitate to post your issues or questions along the threads in the Workshop. There are always people who will help you

Also, for editing the .txt files, I recommend to use Notepad++ (easy to find with Google)

[Dekhatres]

you can change animation in EDU or in batttle_models, here i use the EDU

type Halberdiers
dictionary Halberdiers ; Halberdiers, late pro, elite (3.1)
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Halberdiers, 60, 0, 1.725
officer northern_captain
officer northern_captain_early_flag
officer northern_captain_early_flag
mount_effect horse +2, camel +2
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, start_phalanxing
move_speed_mod 0.84
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 5, phalanx, square
stat_health 1, 1
stat_pri 9, 6, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, axe, 80, 1
stat_pri_attr ap, light_spear
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 15, 3, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 0, -2, 1, -1
stat_mental 13, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 6
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 4, 1595, 840, 100, 840, 840, 4, 300
armour_ug_levels 22, 25, 26, 27
armour_ug_models Halberdiers, Halberdiers_ug1, Halberdiers_ug1, Halberdiers_ug1
ownership aragon, france, denmark, spain, norway, england, hungary, poland, portugal, hre, pisa, venice, sicily, papal_states, teutonic_order, scotland
era 2 aragon, france, denmark, spain, norway, england, hungary, poland, portugal, hre, pisa, venice, sicily, papal_states, teutonic_order, scotland
recruit_priority_offset 30
;478

"soldier Halberdiers, 60, 0, 1.725"

^this is the animation line, change it to "soldier Dismounted_Feudal_Knights, 60, 0, 1.725" and now halberdiers will use the 1 hand and shield animation, they will be swinging their halberds with 1 hand lol

[achilles-91]

Hmm ok, im testing it right now. I will tell you results in next few minutes.
Here is something of what you going to get in my project
EDIT: I have changed animation succecefuly simply by EDU! WOHO! Thank you! Now i can change many units, il get some plan later what units to change, they will be primary late era units like : Lancers, halberdiers, aventuriers... and so on. Maybe i should even delete janissaries hm . If u have some plan for units on factions that IS HISTORICAL, just go on guys.. suggest, il do what i can

[Dekhatres]

glad to hear that mate, i would be happy just with a reskin honestly imo everything is fine as it is now regarding units, i like janissaries, it's the reason why turks are one of my fav eastern factions, now that i think i am playing only eastern factions lately dunno why

[achilles-91]

glad to hear that mate, i would be happy just with a reskin honestly imo everything is fine as it is now regarding units, i like janissaries, it's the reason why turks are one of my fav eastern factions, now that i think i am playing only eastern factions lately dunno why

I wont delete janissaries then So far, i am reskinging units. But i cant post anything until i get permsions.
My first targets are : 1) Moors ( also plan to add few units),2) England ,3) Sicily, (and planing to add 3 units, import norman sergents from england, but they have new skin, like miles pedites just with spears instead of sword ofc. and add complelty new unit called Familia, mounted and dismounted). Then next factions depend on permsions i get

[achilles-91]

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[Dekhatres]

i've been looking through the EDU and i think there are too many kinds of siege units, you have NE_Trebuchet, ME_Trebuchet, then bombards and so on, if they could be unified into one unit with crew models that fit all factions it could save quite some space for more units, then units such as monster ribault, carrocio and many other mercenary siege units (merc monster ribault, rocket laucher) could also be replaced with units

[achilles-91]

i've been looking through the EDU and i think there are too many kinds of siege units, you have NE_Trebuchet, ME_Trebuchet, then bombards and so on, if they could be unified into one unit with crew models that fit all factions it could save quite some space for more units, then units such as monster ribault, carrocio and many other mercenary siege units (merc monster ribault, rocket laucher) could also be replaced with units

Good tips mate! I've almost finished Almohads. For now, i gave them new spear unit + 2 javelin units, and reskined desert spearmen, desert archers and bedouin warriors. Thinking of giving them 2 more units , heavy cavalry and heavy infantry. Then i will think of new faction. If someone of you want, i can post my mod of reworked moors tomorow

[j.a.luna]

Good tips mate! I've almost finished Almohads. For now, i gave them new spear unit + 2 javelin units, and reskined desert spearmen, desert archers and bedouin warriors. Thinking of giving them 2 more units , heavy cavalry and heavy infantry. Then i will think of new faction. If someone of you want, i can post my mod of reworked moors tomorow

ok achilles!!! it sound wonderful!! Althought i think that your submod could add for the sship,for all players of this submod, it would be great