Isenguard cheating?

[Tacticusx]

I played as Rohan for about 5 turns before I quit lol.

Thats because Isenguard literally has Uruk-Hai and Trolls of the Whitehand in the first 4 turns.

What the serious hell.

This seems to only happen when the player plays as Rohan. Because when I played as Enedwaith, Isenguard had no units of that tech in the first 60.

Any reason for that?

[IBSXYPNTS]

I had the same problem its a built in feature to stop player Rohan from roflstomping isengard. I agree it sucks though. Best way to deal with them is avoid battle until you can manage a lare enough force to destroy these forces. they are spawned automatically but only the first few units like 1 troll unit and 2-4 of uruks once they dead you should be ok

[alreadyded]

Ask submod specific questions in the submod's thread, obviously. Just ask them what AI bonuses to remove and your problem is solved.

[Tacticusx]

Ask submod specific questions in the submod's thread, obviously. Just ask them what AI bonuses to remove and your problem is solved.

It's not sub-mod specific. Same thing happens in Vanilla TATW, and MoS, and DaC.

I've played all 3 and the same thing happens. If it was sub-mod specific, I would post this in DaC.

[Withwnar]

It's not sub-mod specific. Same thing happens in Vanilla TATW, and MoS, and DaC.

I've played all 3 and the same thing happens. If it was sub-mod specific, I would post this in DaC.

It doesn't happen in vanilla TATW. All AI factions get additional starting army(s), Isengard included, mainly for settlement capturing purposes during the first turn end. But Isengard's ones are always spawned, not just when playing Rohan. They are small armies, only contain the "Raiders" type of Uruk-hai (which they can recruit from game start) and only two units of them in total, and certainly no trolls which Isengard does not have at all in vanilla.

[alreadyded]

I assume you are not currently playing vanilla since this is the submods section, so you will have to ask whatever submod you are playing since the scripts may be different.

[Dutch-Balrog]

Alot of players found that fighting off Isengard was way too easy before this was in place, and now most of the players are satisfied with the challange.

[Tacticusx]

Alot of players found that fighting off Isengard was way too easy before this was in place, and now most of the players are satisfied with the challange.

That is because Rohan's starting units are more powerful than Isenguard's.

But that still gives them no excuse to crank out full stacked armies full of trolls and Uruk-Hai pikes and heavy infantry like they can afford it with 2 castles and a small town.

Im all for a challenge, but a fair one.

[IBSXYPNTS]

That is because Rohan's starting units are more powerful than Isenguard's.

But that still gives them no excuse to crank out full stacked armies full of trolls and Uruk-Hai pikes and heavy infantry like they can afford it with 2 castles and a small town.

Im all for a challenge, but a fair one.

IIRC they only get a few units of each at the very start and thats it. They cant build them or anything. I also ran into this frustration when playing Rohan.

[Tacticusx]

IIRC they only get a few units of each at the very start and thats it. They cant build them or anything. I also ran into this frustration when playing Rohan.

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Not the case that happened to me.

I was playing as Rohan, Foldburg got attacked by a weaker army(just basic recruitable units for Isenguard), tough battle, barely won.

So I brought over Eodens riders and a few more support units for Foldburg and a massive army of Uruk-Hai pikes and infantry came along, tough battle again, barely won. So I figured it would take them awhile to recoup from that loss.

Well not a turn later, 2 full stack armies full of trolls, Uruk-Hai heavy infantry, and crossbows came to my borders.

Yea, clearly only a few units huh? They spew out the damn things like Rabbits breeding. Clearly needs some balancing.

[alreadyded]

Tell it to the creators of the submod or ask them how to remove it, you are wasting your time complaining about it here. As Withwnar stated Isengard doesn't even get trolls at all, ever, except in whatever (rather unbalanced) submod you are playing.