Awww look...

**JP226** · November 17, 2006, 08:33 PM

... it's a bunch of peaceful muslim children, how cute...

**sephodwyrm** · November 17, 2006, 09:08 PM

I wouldn't be surprised since its children (Palestinian) that actually seen houses being bulldozed, orchards being uprooted and state funeral every week (for martyrs). But whether or not they've seen anything, its always easier to indoctrinate children, especially with wrong information.

Children wanting to be suicide bombers are so ridiculously hopeless. Who are the parents that sent them there?

I have yet to see whether the Qur'an tells people that Jews are apes and pigs.

**Carach** · November 18, 2006, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by sephodwyrm

I wouldn't be surprised since its children (Palestinian) that actually seen houses being bulldozed, orchards being uprooted and state funeral every week (for martyrs). But whether or not they've seen anything, its always easier to indoctrinate children, especially with wrong information.

its jordanian and palestinian school books, the tv recordings are from numerous muslim countries including 'western allies' like saudi arabia and a lot of them seem pretty well off for children that have "actually seen houses being bulldozed, orchards uprooted and state funerals every week"

Its also books teaching (indoctrinating) the children to hate.

Children arent born hating seph, they are trained to hate.

Originally Posted by sephodwyrm

I have yet to see whether the Qur'an tells people that Jews are apes and pigs.

It may not exactly say that, but it does tell muslims that "christians and jews are not friends of islam" and basically condemns you for having any such friends.

**JP226** · November 17, 2006, 10:26 PM

I have yet to see whether the Qur'an tells people that Jews are apes and pigs.

it's not what the koran says or not, it's what the Imam's say the koran says

**MasterAdnin** · November 17, 2006, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by JP226

it's not what the koran says or not, it's what the Imam's say the koran says

What got me the most upset and angry was teh little girl at the end. I felt so sad for her. I just hope that these kids are taught what is really in the Qu'ran instead of those jackass parents of theirs say is in the Qu'ran.

Salaam,
Adnan

**Rush Limbaugh** · November 17, 2006, 11:57 PM

'it's not what the koran says or not, it's what the Imam's say the koran says'

Check out this site

Or this one

It quotes a fourth-grade text as telling students to "love for the sake of God and to hate for the sake of God." The report says that textbooks instruct students that Christians and Jews are "apes and pigs" and warns students not to "greet," "befriend" or "respect" non-believers.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5426633

**LSJ** · November 17, 2006, 11:58 PM

We've been seeing so much of this in the past few decades.
Those "Imams" calling themselves Muslim, say they are preaching the teachings of Islam.
The Qu'ran does not tell people to murder. Its does say something around the lines of "you may fight to protect your family and faith from agressors", but I don't see how someone can interpret that as "encourage war against another country and blow yourself up in a marketplace in the name of righteousness".
Warping religious teachings for political agendas; its very old and has been widely used, but works the same today.

The major problem seems to be that the kids are relying on the teachings of an Imam, rather than reading an unedited copy of the Qu'ran and seeing for themselves what is actually in the book, and what is just made up.
Its like Crusades in the middle ages - most people couldn't read, the bible was in few languages, so everyone relied on local priests and royalty. Since they had one source warping the teachings for a political agenda, and no bible, they had no way to know that what they were learning was untrue, and so went to war for no other reason than being misguided (apart from often being forced by nobility)

I was looking around, and it seems all the quotes - that I found - about killing polytheists and such are later additions. They were not taught by the original prophets, but added most likely in the middle ages by religious leaders for political reasons. Similar to the stuff I found in the bible. Jesus talks about peace, but some other dudes who lived centuries later talk about killing unbelievers.

**Erik** · November 18, 2006, 04:15 AM

Children that age just echo whatever their parents tell them.
Once they hit puberty they will rebel against their parents and learn to think for themselves.
This is natural.

**LoZz** · November 18, 2006, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by Erik

Children that age just echo whatever their parents tell them.
Once they hit puberty they will rebel against their parents and learn to think for themselves.
This is natural.

that is true in some cases but not all, racist parents tend to have racist kids

as for them their as cute as buttons!

**Armfelt** · November 18, 2006, 04:18 AM

I think the Palestinians at least are not fighting for Islam but for an independent Palestine.

**Shaun** · November 18, 2006, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by JP226

... it's a bunch of peaceful muslim children, how cute...

What do you hope to achieve by pointing out that we have Child Muslim suicide bombers? Is this just another excuse to bash Islam, just exactly what sort of debate can evolve from this thread? We have seen the video, there is no denying that there are Muslim Child suicide bombers, but isntead many will take this as an excuse to bash Islam. I am sure this topic will turn out like all the other Islam topics . . .