would you vote for me?

[LoZz]

I am curious, I am really fed up with the UK as it is in its current state, ive always though about what id do differently, I am all sure we do but I am just wondering if their was a 4th party and these where its policies would you vote for it? Sorry to those not in the UK you have your own poll options: P.

Now go on the bases that it’s the next general election and the 4th party has drawn up these policies, would you prefer to vote for this party over the other 3?

End the big brother state.

1. ID cards gone for good, will never been considered by this government.

2. Black boxes in your bins and cars monitoring your waste and movements are gone.

3. Tighter laws on who can have cctv and where they can have cctv, ultimate goal to reduce the number of cctv (at the moment with have similar numbers to communist china)

4. Allow protest outside parliament with this current government had banned.

5. Allowing the public into downing street (the street not the houses), not vehicles, their will be metal detectors etc but people will be allowed to walk down their like they used to along time ago.


End the nanny state.

1. A lot of nanny state issues are caused by the fact councils etc are scared of being sued, we will make it harder for people to sue other people, and make the process not so easy to put people off so only those with legitimate clams will even be allowed into the court.

2. If needed we will force schools to allow children to play conkers without safety goggles etc.

3. People will legally be made responsible for their own actions, so if your kid hurts him/herself in your local park its your fault for not giving proper supervision or instruction to the child. If you get hurt at a firework show threw no fault of the organiser (strong winds etc) then tuff you shouldn’t of gone if you where not prepared to accept the risk that goes with attending


End political correctness

1. A difficult one to solve, for more information see government accountability below. But councils will NOT be allowed to ban or implement laws on racial grounds. For example they will not be allowed to ban Christmas lights due to it upsetting Muslims. Nor will they be allowed to ban nursery rhymes like ba ba black sheep. This law will not apply to national government.


Government accountability and councils

1. We will reduce dramatically the power councils have over telling people how to live their lives, councils have to many powers in this parties mind, they will have their ability to fine and prosecute people reduced dramatically, under this government councils will not be allowed to fine people 200 pounds for putting the wrong rubbish in the wrong bin etc.

2. MP and councillors will also be more publicly accountable, they will be forced as part of their term in office to do something similar to prime ministers question time but in their local town/parish halls and members of the public will be allowed to actually discuss things with them and they will have to listen to them.


3. Councillors can be fired by the national government if its believed they are not listening to their local communities


EU

1. Before going any deeper into the policies will need to talk about this, otherwise a lot of questions as to how to we achieve the next few policies will be unanswerable. Do we need the EU? The answer is no, the EU cost the UK 40 billion a year, the EU is also separate from the European court of human rights and the European trade commission, we would leave the EU but not the court of human rights and not the trade commission (it’s the trade commission that gives you your E11 cards). So most of are trade agreements would also be protected, as we are not leaving the trade commission, which is a separate From the EU. Any few billion we might lose would be made up for by the 40 billion we would save each and every year. Countries like Switzerland and Norway are very rich countries and are not in the EU, don’t believe the fear mongering, they need us more then we need them.

Education

1. A Norway style education system will be adopted.

2. School leaving age will be raised to 18 and gcse’s will be pushed back two years and be done at 18, they will also be made harder so they are a meaningful qualification.


3. Those extra two years will go at the front of their school time – for the first two years of school they will not learn to write, read or count. They will learn about nature and life, they will do field trips to farms and learn about how the food they eat is made. They will learn how to speak and socialize and how to sit and eat at a table, they will also do physical fitness everyday for the first 2 years, and do lots of arts and craft, in short the first 2 years will be fun practical stuff this will improve behaviour of children as they will not have such a bad first experience in school and improve kids fitness and communication abilities as parents across the country are failing to teach these.

4. in the UK we spend only a few billion on education my government will spend an extra 20 billion (from leaving the EU) each year in schools, a large part on it will be spent on school dinners and fitness equipment for schools this is over a 100% increase in spending. We believe a smart nation is a successful nation

4. Faith schools will no longer receive any state funding, religion will play no part in education, religion is a personal pursuit and has nothing to do with our education system which is all facts, their for we will not allow faith schools or teachings based on certain religions.

5. Scrap Tuition fee's - short fall will be covered by the goverment.

Health

1. Problem with this government is that they over manage things we will stop this and let doctors run their own hospitals.

2. Remove most of the useless mangers.


3. Removal of league tables and targets.


Defence/Iraq

1. Put the other 20 billion we save from leaving the EU into defence and bring the British armed forces back up to their former standard, no longer will our boys and girls die because they have no body armour.


Police/Security

1. Scale down police paper work, reduce the amount of paper work they need to do.

2. End the war on motorists, we are committed to removing all stupid speed camera’s only those around schools and in busy towns will be kept, those in empty country roads will be removed. And where possible replace all speed cameras with those ones that measure the average speed, this stops people from slowing down and speeding up for cameras which causes more accidents!

3. Community support officers will be given greater power of arrest and will be closer to real police. Community support officers will focus more on the public face of the police and patrolling on the beat talking to people, allowing real police to deal with real crime.

Law

1. For serious crimes, admitting guilt will no longer result in an automatic 50% reduction in sentence it will only be 20%

2. Judges will be publicly elected like in America and more accountable.

3. Life will mean life; with no parole and a new sentence “jailed till dead” will be introduced to stop those most dangerous in society from getting out.

4. More prisons and mental health hospitals will be built, care in the community has led to dangerous people being allowed to kill again, no more will this happen!

5. Juvenile jails will be overhauled, the play stations and pool tables will be removed and books and education will be brought in, kids will be offered a wide Varity of courses to learn from computers to woodwork, judges will have the power to sentence juveniles to jail and not let them out till they learn a trade.

6. Adult jails will have the same as juvenile jails but adults will also be forced to do community service while they are in jail (a bit like American chain gangs) where they will clean graffiti off the walls and pick up rubbish etc.

7. Double jeopardy will be bought back.

8. People will be given greater rights to defend themselves and property from attack and robbery.


Immigration

1. Ilegal immirgrants will be deported. If you are a Political refuge surely would go to the nearest safest country, why go all over Europe and threw France if you’re just trying to get away from a bad government? Theirs no such think in the UK they come here for the easy life.

2. their will be a cap on the number of immigrants each year, we will adpot an australian style immigration system, if you have a skill we need you are more then welcome to come.

3. if you have lived in britian for less then 10 years and you commit a serious crime and you are an adult you will be deported, kids will not be and it will be just you and not your family.

Social/Families/Current issues and other policies

1. Driving age for all cars and scooters will be set to 18; motorcycles, lorries and buses will be 21.

2. Shopkeepers and people selling alcohol to kids will be faced with closer of their shops and harsh punishments.


3. Parents will be given more rights to discipline their children, however parents will still how to comply with the reasonable chastisement laws and it will be a crime not to discipline your child, much like in France.

4. Men will be given equal rights with woman in the family court, the sex of the person will no longer play a part in who gets the child and men will be given more visitation rights, and a new law will be introduced allowing divorced parents a minimum number of hours they have to spend with their kids a month which the other parent can not refuses.

5. Cannabis will go back to a class B drug due to mental health issues the drug causes, such as paranoia

6. Cigarette smoking in public places will be banned but the war on smokers will end their, the buying age for cigarettes will go up to 18 like with alcohol.

7. Inheritance tax scraped.

8. All advertising aimed at children will be banned before a 9pm watershed that included junk food and toys.

9. End the UK’s special relationship with America, a friend who takes what they want but gives nothing is no friend of ours.

Public transport

1. increase investment into trains and buses, improve time, quality, hygiene, and punctuality

2. put presure on those companys who refuse to lower rail and bus prices and remove those who refuse to do so.

3. in order to get more people onto public transport it will be free to all under 18s during the week and free all the time for those over 65

[Tostig]

Ah, a perfectly reactionary, vision-less manifesto indeed! Tell me, where do you stand on the important stuff. Does society exist, or, as Maggie once put it, are we all just individuals and our families? How do you plan on tackling issues such as global warming? What is your opinion on public transport? Tuition fees?

And the third part of your education bill is pure senselessness. You're in favour of letting Doctors run their own hospitals, why can't teachers their own schools?

Why the re-classification of cannabis?

[LoZz]

Ah, a perfectly reactionary, vision-less manifesto indeed! Tell me, where do you stand on the important stuff. Does society exist, or, as Maggie once put it, are we all just individuals and our families? How do you plan on tackling issues such as global warming? What is your opinion on public transport? Tuition fees?

And the third part of your education bill is pure senselessness. You're in favour of letting Doctors run their own hospitals, why can't teachers their own schools?

Why the re-classification of cannabis?

i forgot tution fees and public transport take a chill pill i will put them in

to be honest you seem to have read what you wanted to read instead of whats actualy their

and as far as i understand it teachers DO run their owns schools all ready (head teachers?)

and the reason for cannabis is the mental impact it has

[Silver Guard]

I'd vote for you, go set up a party, or better yet come to Jersey, where we vote for individuals rather then institutions.

[Denny Crane!]

I am curious, I am really fed up with the UK as it is in its current state, ive always though about what id do differently, I am all sure we do but I am just wondering if their was a 4th party and these where its policies would you vote for it? Sorry to those not in the UK you have your own poll options: P.

Now go on the bases that it’s the next general election and the 4th party has drawn up these policies, would you prefer to vote for this party over the other 3?

End the big brother state.

1. ID cards gone for good, will never been considered by this government.

OK they are pretty ill conceived and the implementation would be to expensive.

2. Black boxes in your bins and cars monitoring your waste and movements are gone.

Cars monitoring your movements? What?

3. Tighter laws on who can have cctv and where they can have cctv, ultimate goal to reduce the number of cctv (at the moment with have similar numbers to communist china)

Actually we have the most in the world. Not by any means all owned by the government and they do more good than harm so why would you legislate against them. How in fact do you legislate against them? Do you deny people the right to protect their shops and homes by being able to monitor them?

4. Allow protest outside parliament with this current government had banned.

It serves no useful purpose really, so I am not really bothered. A public protest in London gets media attention and government attention enough. Protesting outside parliment would not make any more impact but could disrupt the government and there are serious issues with terrorism and the like.

5. Allowing the public into downing street (the street not the houses), not vehicles, their will be metal detectors etc but people will be allowed to walk down their like they used to along time ago.

Again security and terrorist concerns make this unfeasible.


I think I would not to be honest. I think a lot of your policies are populist, things the Daily Mail loves to complain about.

I would address all your points but there is a lot of them. Good post though.

Peter

[LoZz]

Cars monitoring your movements? What?

Peter

have you not hered of this? or are you not in the uk?

basicaly - the goverment is try to tackle all our road problems by fitting little black boxes in everyone car that tracks what road you are on, and you get charged by the hour and on what road you use etc. in short the goverment will know exactly where you are and where you have been in your car, i find that far to intrusive for my liking.

[Denny Crane!]

have you not hered of this? or are you not in the uk?

basicaly - the goverment is try to tackle all our road problems by fitting little black boxes in everyone car that tracks what road you are on, and you get charged by the hour and on what road you use etc. in short the goverment will know exactly where you are and where you have been in your car, i find that far to intrusive for my liking.

Well the government is looking at things above and beyond your personal likes and dislikes and there are two reasons why I support this:

1. We are a small country facing an exponential amount of new drivers. Anyone who drives in rush hour knows how bad the traffic is and how much worse it is likely to get. Ironically it is always worse for me during school times and I drive a busy bus route. So why are people driving their kids to school?

This might sound trivial but it has a massive effect on business. It is a major source of concern for the government.

Professor David Begg, chairman of Commision for integrated transport said that without a much bigger push to 'get people out of their cars' and on to a decent public transport system there will be less choice, even longer commutes, more urban sprawl, and social exclusion for those without cars, more gridlock for those with,' he said. 'Pedestrians will be a rarity, cyclists an oddity - people will not know their neighbours and will spend more time in their cars than they do at home. This is not what we want.'

Leads me nicely onto point 2:

The environment is another source of major concern and it is hit on all fronts. We can't keep on building more and more roads, and we can't keep filling the roads with more and more polluting cars.

In short every kind of effort needs to be made for more efficient public transport in massive quantities. Every effort needs to be made to get people out of cars and off the roads.

Peter

[Lusted]

Hmm, mostly agree with you. However, i disagree with your view on prisons. Psychological studies have shown that prisons do not deter reoffending once released. More effort needs to be put into rehabilitation. But yes for those who are serial killers, psychopaths or with serious mental issues that cannot be cured, very secure jails for them.

And i also do not agree with your views on immigrants. Especially 3. If someone has kids in this country, they should go through our justice system, not just be deported as that will not help the kids. Illegal immigration crackdwon i agree with. But we need a steady flow of immigrants to make up for all those emigrating(about 150,000+ a year or something), and to help do the work to support a ageing population. Also asylum seekers should be allowed, we are viewed as a safe country, we should not deny people entrance because there are countries closer to theirs who can take them.

In regards to education i think the best thing to do is either scrap student loans, as student debt is crippling many graduates, or make degrees mean something again, as atm so many people have degrees that it is no longer something special to put on your CV. Also i do not agree with raising the leaving age to 18, think 16 is best as that is the right time to go to college and start being treated like an adult.

What i would also like to see in the area of crime is a crackdown on rape, as far too many rape caes result in conviction, and many more are thought to go unreported.

I agree with you completely on the whole nanny state thing, children not being able to play conkers without safety goggles because the schools fear being sued is ridiculous. I heard one school banned children bringing home made cakes to special days as the school feared being sued over food poisoning.

[Denny Crane!]

And the reinforcement of prohibitive practices to cannabis that are proven not to work?

Peter

[sephodwyrm]

1. Put the other 20 billion we save from leaving the EU into defence and bring the British armed forces back up to their former standard, no longer will our boys and girls die because they have no body armour.

20 billion is not really impressive for the military budget.
Plus, all that shells and stuff require maintenance, and gets obsolete really fast.

1. A lot of nanny state issues are caused by the fact councils etc are scared of being sued, we will make it harder for people to sue other people, and make the process not so easy to put people off so only those with legitimate clams will even be allowed into the court.

I think suing people or organizations should be made as easy as possible.
The people should be given the right to sue an unjust government.

5. Juvenile jails will be overhauled, the play stations and pool tables will be removed and books and education will be brought in, kids will be offered a wide Varity of courses to learn from computers to woodwork, judges will have the power to sentence juveniles to jail and not let them out till they learn a trade.

You mean you have PS and pool tables in juvenile prison?
Now I sort of understood why there's an incentive to commit felony.
I don't even have a TV, or a PS...I just have a cranky laptop and a room that's 2.5 m x 5 m...

[LoZz]

20 billion is not really impressive for the military budget.
Plus, all that shells and stuff require maintenance, and gets obsolete really fast.

its just to cover them till they get back from iraq and to keep them well mantained, i dont plan to take us to war like blair did!

You mean you have PS and pool tables in juvenile prison?
Now I sort of understood why there's an incentive to commit felony.
I don't even have a TV, or a PS...I just have a cranky laptop and a room that's 2.5 m x 5 m...

yes they do have play stations, TVS, pool tables etc, so they sit their and rot in jail insted of learning a skill they can use when they get out to get their lifes back togther!


and for those concerned - ive adressed public transport and student fee's etc. check updated posts.

Well the government is looking at things above and beyond your personal likes and dislikes and there are two reasons why I support this:

1. We are a small country facing an exponential amount of new drivers. Anyone who drives in rush hour knows how bad the traffic is and how much worse it is likely to get. Ironically it is always worse for me during school times and I drive a busy bus route. So why are people driving their kids to school?

This might sound trivial but it has a massive effect on business. It is a major source of concern for the government.

Professor David Begg, chairman of Commision for integrated transport said that without a much bigger push to 'get people out of their cars' and on to a decent public transport system there will be less choice, even longer commutes, more urban sprawl, and social exclusion for those without cars, more gridlock for those with,' he said. 'Pedestrians will be a rarity, cyclists an oddity - people will not know their neighbours and will spend more time in their cars than they do at home. This is not what we want.'

Leads me nicely onto point 2:

The environment is another source of major concern and it is hit on all fronts. We can't keep on building more and more roads, and we can't keep filling the roads with more and more polluting cars.

In short every kind of effort needs to be made for more efficient public transport in massive quantities. Every effort needs to be made to get people out of cars and off the roads.

Peter

i understand peter ive adressed public transport if you check the edited post - i am staying away from the enviroment as i dont know where i stand on the issue half the time!


but for whats it worth i used to take the train everyweek day for 2 years, i got fed up of the high prices, the cancelations and the smell of sick and piss, i know take a scooter, i get their quicker, on time and its alot cheeper then train, and i am useing more of the worlds valued oil and adding to the roads, id drive a car if i wasnt a poor student!

before they start taxing us more they should give us a decent alternative, thats why you should vote for me!

[Denny Crane!]

i understand peter ive adressed public transport if you check the edited post - i am staying away from the enviroment as i dont know where i stand on the issue half the time!


but for whats it worth i used to take the train everyweek day for 2 years, i got fed up of the high prices, the cancelations and the smell of sick and piss, i know take a scooter, i get their quicker, on time and its alot cheeper then train, and i am useing more of the worlds valued oil and adding to the roads, id drive a car if i wasnt a poor student!

before they start taxing us more they should give us a decent alternative, thats why you should vote for me!

Except it will get to the stage rapidly where rush hour will get so bad this is unfeasible. The average commute in Britain is the highest anywhere. When I used to drive into work I would leave two hours before I started to miss rush hour arriving an hour early but it was the only way to get in on time.

A car culture is bad news for everyone, gridlocked Britain is bad news for everyone. Bad for people and bad for business, and although you are indecisive on it the environment is important and is a concern. As I said before we cannot keep building roads, our infrastructure in places cannot even be expanded simply through geography.

So I suggest put yourself in the Governments place and look at things on a national scale, more utiliterian (the greater good) rather than looking at what effects you personally or what you like or dislike.

It is for that reason I support anything that keeps car off the road ( it even includes congestion charges....)


Pete

[Freddie]

I'm thinking of forming my own party. Some of my policies included refurbishing Big Ben, I would have it fitted out with a digital display and with the money saved from not having to service it all the time I would plough it into healthcare. I would scrap the Pound.............in favour of the 99p coin. The money saved on change and cut done on metal used to make coins, help save the environment. Withdrawal of MPs' expenses allowance and John Prescott food allowance, give it to poor and hungry.


Other then thatI would have a centre right government, aiming to keep taxes low investment in industry and support to entrepreneurial start ups. I would look to cut corporation tax to encourage companies to invest in the UK and breath new jobs into the economy. I would also implement the Howard report 2003 which demonstrated how you can save £21 billion in the NHS, all government departments and ministers will be set failure standards, if there work or there projects don’t meet these standards they will be out of a job.

The bottom line is if I was PM I wouldn’t be the tax and spend government that we currently have, low taxation and small government everyone should be encouraged to stand on their own two feet.

As for Lozz I would love to vote for you but your polices would lead to chaos, for example you just can’t leave the EU no matter how much you want to. Too much of our legislation, laws and statutes is based on EU law. I know how you feel about the state of Tony Blair’s Britain and I feel much the same as you, between us we could work out a decent manifesto.

[MaximiIian]

Before I select, one question, probably a stupid one with an obvious answer, but here 'goes:
What's "cctv"?

[Spork Wielding Spartans]

Closed Circuit TeleVision

[Sétanta]

No. A bunch of populist policies that are completely unfeasible in the modern world, no matter how nice they sound.

[Niles Crane]

No. Nor would I wish to meet you in the pub for a game of strip poker.

[Siblesz]

You'd be a perfect politician. Replacing one error with another.

[Tom Paine]

1. ID cards gone for good, will never been considered by this government.

Good policy; definitely an acceptable manifesto commitment too, in terms of practicality (of course it doesn't stop Private Members or Private Interests tabling the idea...)

2. Black boxes in your bins and cars monitoring your waste and movements are gone.

The first, yes; the second I'm not so sure about, as they are infinitely useful in crime prevention "My car got stolen" "Well, we know where it is right now, so..."

3. Tighter laws on who can have cctv and where they can have cctv, ultimate goal to reduce the number of cctv (at the moment with have similar numbers to communist china)

Actually we have the most in the world. Not by any means all owned by the government and they do more good than harm so why would you legislate against them. How in fact do you legislate against them? Do you deny people the right to protect their shops and homes by being able to monitor them?

Seneca says it all, really.

4. Allow protest outside parliament with this current government had banned.

No questions asked here, good policy.

5. Allowing the public into downing street (the street not the houses), not vehicles, their will be metal detectors etc but people will be allowed to walk down their like they used to along time ago.

Thatcher put up the barriers for good, if I recall correctly; the PM should be accessible but not instantly and just by walking down Downing Street, especially not at present, given the climate of fear.

1. A lot of nanny state issues are caused by the fact councils etc are scared of being sued, we will make it harder for people to sue other people, and make the process not so easy to put people off so only those with legitimate clams will even be allowed into the court.

But that scares people with legitimate claims into not suing as well; and there's no way to stop a determined person suing something like Private Eye, even if they know they'll lose. Impractical and downright negative.

2. If needed we will force schools to allow children to play conkers without safety goggles etc.

Um, why? How many kids still even play conkers?

3. People will legally be made responsible for their own actions, so if your kid hurts him/herself in your local park its your fault for not giving proper supervision or instruction to the child. If you get hurt at a firework show threw no fault of the organiser (strong winds etc) then tuff you shouldn’t of gone if you where not prepared to accept the risk that goes with attending

But surely the organiser is compelled to minimise risks, LoZz? Or is the organiser, the person who runs the thing, completely non-culpable for what happens at a gathering they have organised? No, that cannot be the case, sorry.

1. A difficult one to solve, for more information see government accountability below. But councils will NOT be allowed to ban or implement laws on racial grounds. For example they will not be allowed to ban Christmas lights due to it upsetting Muslims. Nor will they be allowed to ban nursery rhymes like ba ba black sheep. This law will not apply to national government.

Baa baa black sheep was a fake story, not anything which really happened, sorry.
Christmas lights aren't banned for fear of offending, but for their costliness; would you rather force councils to erect costly Christmas lights, then?

1. We will reduce dramatically the power councils have over telling people how to live their lives, councils have to many powers in this parties mind, they will have their ability to fine and prosecute people reduced dramatically, under this government councils will not be allowed to fine people 200 pounds for putting the wrong rubbish in the wrong bin etc.

So you would cripple councils, but still leave us with them, a useless layer of government? A pointless idea!
[quote[2. MP and councillors will also be more publicly accountable, they will be forced as part of their term in office to do something similar to prime ministers question time but in their local town/parish halls and members of the public will be allowed to actually discuss things with them and they will have to listen to them. [/quote]
Why? An MP will listen if they want to or, if they do not, won't; MPs are both accountable (at every election we can choose to deselect an MP by electing another one) and accessible (I've just penned a letter to my local MP, for instance). This gives them less time in both constituency surgery, which again is accessibility, and in Westminster fulfilling their legislative duties!

3. Councillors can be fired by the national government if its believed they are not listening to their local communities

Again, I disagree; the national government can hardly know, and its a power far, far too easily abusable.

1. Before going any deeper into the policies will need to talk about this, otherwise a lot of questions as to how to we achieve the next few policies will be unanswerable. Do we need the EU? The answer is no, the EU cost the UK 40 billion a year, the EU is also separate from the European court of human rights and the European trade commission, we would leave the EU but not the court of human rights and not the trade commission (it’s the trade commission that gives you your E11 cards). So most of are trade agreements would also be protected, as we are not leaving the trade commission, which is a separate From the EU. Any few billion we might lose would be made up for by the 40 billion we would save each and every year. Countries like Switzerland and Norway are very rich countries and are not in the EU, don’t believe the fear mongering, they need us more then we need them.

Hardly so. It would be perfectly easy for all other EU nations to pull out of the trade commission and amalgamate them with the EU, a may well happen anyway; and it is a serious problem if that happens. Equally, and furthermore, much of our law (eg, HRA 1998) is based on EU law; we'd need a lot of legislation to be repassed, wasting a lot of Parliamentary time on inanity.

1. A Norway style education system will be adopted.

Described below, yes?

2. School leaving age will be raised to 18 and gcse’s will be pushed back two years and be done at 18, they will also be made harder so they are a meaningful qualification.

Jesus! Don't but into the idea that they are getting easier, please; they aren't. I was talking to imb39 about this a while back and he said that the Times published an article complaining about falling educational standards, in 1912. The complaint is not a new thing, its just wrong; its improving teaching, not worsening exams.

3. Those extra two years will go at the front of their school time – for the first two years of school they will not learn to write, read or count. They will learn about nature and life, they will do field trips to farms and learn about how the food they eat is made. They will learn how to speak and socialize and how to sit and eat at a table, they will also do physical fitness everyday for the first 2 years, and do lots of arts and craft, in short the first 2 years will be fun practical stuff this will improve behaviour of children as they will not have such a bad first experience in school and improve kids fitness and communication abilities as parents across the country are failing to teach these.

I disagree; school already improves the communication and so on of kids, even the shunned ones; one learns how to sit and ewat before one goes to school, too, in general, given an age of five for school entry; and one can be taught about where food comes from while learning to read and write. So all this is, is a meaningless two extra years of education.

4. in the UK we spend only a few billion on education my government will spend an extra 20 billion (from leaving the EU) each year in schools, a large part on it will be spent on school dinners and fitness equipment for schools this is over a 100% increase in spending. We believe a smart nation is a successful nation

But you want to increase spending not on things that improve the educational ability but on food and fitness... give it to the schools and allow it to spend them as it sees best; remember, improvement in teacher's salaries to private-school levels attracts those teachers who go to private schools for the better pay.

4. Faith schools will no longer receive any state funding, religion will play no part in education, religion is a personal pursuit and has nothing to do with our education system which is all facts, their for we will not allow faith schools or teachings based on certain religions.

And Religious Studies lessons? Other than that I perfectly and fully agree entirely.

5. Scrap Tuition fee's - short fall will be covered by the goverment.

How?

1. Problem with this government is that they over manage things we will stop this and let doctors run their own hospitals.

And doctors know little of finance on that scale; would you still require the books to be balanced?

2. Remove most of the useless mangers.

They're who balances the books, or at least try to. Much as I dislike them, if you want an economic NHS they are needed.

3. Removal of league tables and targets.

Does this also apply to education and if not why not?

1. Put the other 20 billion we save from leaving the EU into defence and bring the British armed forces back up to their former standard, no longer will our boys and girls die because they have no body armour.

We spend at present 2.4% of our GDP on the military; our GDP is about $2trillion. £20 billion makes that increase by a factor o maybe .5, maybe .66, but no more.

1. Scale down police paper work, reduce the amount of paper work they need to do.
A lot of the paperwork is reports of crimes and so on; those reports are needed to ensure procedure is followed and to ensure interrogations and similar are carried out appropriately.
[quote[2. End the war on motorists, we are committed to removing all stupid speed camera’s only those around schools and in busy towns will be kept, those in empty country roads will be removed. And where possible replace all speed cameras with those ones that measure the average speed, this stops people from slowing down and speeding up for cameras which causes more accidents!

But you are now preventing enforcement of speed limits, which prevent a lot of accidents; speeding is a serious problem in this country, and you would do all you could not to decrease it but to increase it?

3. Community support officers will be given greater power of arrest and will be closer to real police. Community support officers will focus more on the public face of the police and patrolling on the beat talking to people, allowing real police to deal with real crime.

We currently have enough police to deal with both, which is why we see police on the beat anyway, LoZz; this seems a pointless policy, especially given that any citizen has the ability to arrest (citizens' arrest).

1. For serious crimes, admitting guilt will no longer result in an automatic 50% reduction in sentence it will only be 20%

Its not automatic; the judge has discretion.

2. Judges will be publicly elected like in America and more accountable.

An elected judiciary is not meritocratic, as our current judiciary is; I'd prefer judges who had ability, rather than who were populist.

3. Life will mean life; with no parole and a new sentence “jailed till dead” will be introduced to stop those most dangerous in society from getting out.

Life should never mean life-without-chance-of-parole in any case, ever. Justice is not about punishment or retribution.

4. More prisons and mental health hospitals will be built, care in the community has led to dangerous people being allowed to kill again, no more will this happen!

Actually poor mental health procedures have... the latest one was someone in a mental health hospital.

5. Juvenile jails will be overhauled, the play stations and pool tables will be removed and books and education will be brought in, kids will be offered a wide Varity of courses to learn from computers to woodwork, judges will have the power to sentence juveniles to jail and not let them out till they learn a trade.

Kids already have the opportunity of education in jail. I might add that you are painting the Mirror/Sun picture of jails, not the real image, which is more grim.

6. Adult jails will have the same as juvenile jails but adults will also be forced to do community service while they are in jail (a bit like American chain gangs) where they will clean graffiti off the walls and pick up rubbish etc.

So... we release them from jail a lot? What's the point, then? Equally, surely they should be being trained in useful skills so they can get a job and not feel any need to commit crime on their release?

7. Double jeopardy will be bought back.

Again, no; you want to prevent dangerous criminals being released, don't return double jeopardy; it allows serious crimes to be retried in the light of new evidence under current rules. Note that phrase; there must be new evidence.

8. People will be given greater rights to defend themselves and property from attack and robbery.

They have great rights ("reasonable force"), they just can't use excessive force, and that is important, to me.

1. Ilegal immirgrants will be deported. If you are a Political refuge surely would go to the nearest safest country, why go all over Europe and threw France if you’re just trying to get away from a bad government? Theirs no such think in the UK they come here for the easy life.

Except France and others send us asylum seekers, and some come here because its the only place we know. I can't in good conscience vote for any government willing to throw out asylum seekers, sorry.

2. their will be a cap on the number of immigrants each year, we will adpot an australian style immigration system, if you have a skill we need you are more then welcome to come.

Will this cap be higher than the number of emigrants and deaths each year or will you be willing to accept a shrnking and aging population, then?

3. if you have lived in britian for less then 10 years and you commit a serious crime and you are an adult you will be deported, kids will not be and it will be just you and not your family.

That hurts the family of the criminal unneccessarily and cruelly.

1. Driving age for all cars and scooters will be set to 18; motorcycles, lorries and buses will be 21.

So you get to buy alchohol and drive in one day? Really bad idea; one should know how to drive before one can drink.

2. Shopkeepers and people selling alcohol to kids will be faced with closer of their shops and harsh punishments.

They already are faced with drastic punishments.

3. Parents will be given more rights to discipline their children, however parents will still how to comply with the reasonable chastisement laws and it will be a crime not to discipline your child, much like in France.

Wait, what? That means that one must discipline one's child when the government, not when you, see fit; I thought you didn't like the nanny state, hm?

4. Men will be given equal rights with woman in the family court, the sex of the person will no longer play a part in who gets the child and men will be given more visitation rights, and a new law will be introduced allowing divorced parents a minimum number of hours they have to spend with their kids a month which the other parent can not refuses.

Legally gender does not play a part already. You can't change, however, how some judges think.

5. Cannabis will go back to a class B drug due to mental health issues the drug causes, such as paranoia

I'll leave Seneca to deal with this, he wrote a long article on the fact that this is a fraudulent claim; commonly believed, but that doesn't make it true.

6. Cigarette smoking in public places will be banned but the war on smokers will end their, the buying age for cigarettes will go up to 18 like with alcohol.

I'm confused, the "war on smokers" is only that!

7. Inheritance tax scraped.

Really bad policy in my mind; why should a kid profit, without taxation, from the death of a parent?
[qyite]8. All advertising aimed at children will be banned before a 9pm watershed that included junk food and toys. [/quote]
Already in the offing.

9. End the UK’s special relationship with America, a friend who takes what they want but gives nothing is no friend of ours.

The give intell, cash, and they sell us goods... but I agree, we are in too close a relationship.

1. increase investment into trains and buses, improve time, quality, hygiene, and punctuality

How about a first stop of deprivatisation so that you can, rather than just giving companies money?

2. put presure on those companys who refuse to lower rail and bus prices and remove those who refuse to do so.

Lowe rail prices and improve quality? How were you planning to do this, exactly? Especially as prices are pretty low already!

3. in order to get more people onto public transport it will be free to all under 18s during the week and free all the time for those over 65

And see previous.

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i forgot tution fees and public transport take a chill pill i will put them in

to be honest you seem to have read what you wanted to read instead of whats actualy their

and as far as i understand it teachers DO run their owns schools all ready (head teachers?)

and the reason for cannabis is the mental impact it has

No, I took the time and effort to read the entire thing. However if you would prefer to declare that I didn't, rather than accept that someone out there might disagree with you then be my guest. On the subject of education schools hardly run their own affairs, they have even more hoops to jump through than hospitals, with national examinations (and national curriculums) almost every year now, government targets for hours spent studying what subjects per week and in a new move it looks like even their menus will be set by the centralised state.

As for cannabis, isn't a persons own mind their own affair, rather than that of the state? Virtually everyone I know either used it or has tried it, from policemen to teachers to civil servants and lifeboatmen. What's next, prohibition? Removed

And am I to take it from your lack of response on the subject that you lack any actual vision for what the country should be like? Do you really just stand for trying to abolish all fears so that we can contently chew the cud in our centrally heated paddocks?