Europa Barbarorum 2.08e is released!

**QuintusSertorius** · May 17, 2015, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Frtigern

Well I just played maybe 16 or 30 turns in as Sweboz and got a CTD. Actually first I've ever had on EB2. Maybe its my system though. I'm posting my log. I'm not sure what any of it means or if this is normal.

Condition parsing error in mods

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First half of those are an issue with a single line telling it when the faction is not a human player. I'll look into that.

Second half are syntax errors - missing spaces after the faction names. Easily fixed.

Originally Posted by Frtigern

Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 342

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Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375

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21:37:54.238 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <define_unit_group> at line 375 in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt
21:37:54.238 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375, in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt:
Error in battle script command 'define_unit_group': unit 'a2g1' is already in a unit group.
21:37:54.238 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375, in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt:
Error in battle script command 'define_unit_group': unit 'a2u2' is already in a unit group.
21:37:54.238 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375, in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt:
Error in battle script command 'define_unit_group': unit 'a2u3' is already in a unit group.
21:37:54.238 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375, in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt:
Error in battle script command 'define_unit_group': unit 'a2u4' is already in a unit group.
21:37:54.239 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375, in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt:
Error in battle script command 'define_unit_group': unit 'a2u5' is already in a unit group.
21:37:54.239 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375, in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt:
Error in battle script command 'define_unit_group': unit 'a2u6' is already in a unit group.
21:37:54.239 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375, in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt:
Error in battle script command 'define_unit_group': unit 'a2u7' is already in a unit group.
21:37:54.239 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375, in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt:
Error in battle script command 'define_unit_group': unit 'a2u8' is already in a unit group.
21:37:54.239 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375, in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt:
Error in battle script command 'define_unit_group': unit 'a2u9' is already in a unit group.
21:37:54.239 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <define_unit_group>, at line 375, in mods/EBII/data/scripts/show_me/background_script.txt:
Error in battle script command 'define_unit_group': unit 'a2u10' is already in a unit group.

Script execution error for <monitor_event>, at line 2383

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I'll get someone on those two, thanks for finding them.

Originally Posted by Frtigern

I didn't see any of those errors later on but then:

23:47:51.161 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

Windows said this:

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No idea what to make of that, to be honest. Without an error log it's difficult to pinpoint.

**z3n** · May 17, 2015, 02:05 PM

Ahh thanks frtigen, I can fix that.

**Trax** · May 17, 2015, 03:48 PM

I have a feeling that there might be something wrong with the finances. There seems to be a lot more money coming in if your treasury drops too low, almost as if some sort of money script is activated for the human player too. I noticed something like that before but now I started to pay more attention.

Start campaign spend all your money, click end turn and have 3000 in the treasury. Repeat and next turn it's the same.

I played first battle with my modified EDU and found it to flow rather well, as a matter of fact it was an over average enjoyable TW battle, nothing obviously broken. Units, even levy spearmen, hold line well without being slaughtered. One spear unit repulsed 3 charges by heavy cavalry. There wasn't much left of it by the end but the cavalry was also routed.

**QuintusSertorius** · May 17, 2015, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Trax

I have a feeling that there might be something wrong with the finances. There seems to be a lot more money coming in if your treasury drops too low, almost as if some sort of money script is activated for the human player too. I noticed something like that before but now I started to pay more attention.

Start campaign spend all your money, click end turn and have 3000 in the treasury. Repeat and next turn it's the same.

Yes, exactly what Frtigern was reporting is the scripted economic assistance for the AI (wrongly) working for the player. There was an erroneous "not" which meant it wasn't giving it to an AI-controlled faction, but only a human-controlled one. That's also why the AI has been struggling at the start of the game, because they weren't getting their early assistance money.

That's now fixed, along with the syntax errors preventing the kings purse from working for some factions.

The combination of those two firing correctly should hopefully mean the AI is a little more aggressive and active, enough to counteract the bigger Rebel garrisons.

Originally Posted by Trax

I played first battle with my modified EDU and found it to flow rather well, as a matter of fact it was an over average enjoyable TW battle, nothing obviously broken. Units, even levy spearmen, hold line well without being slaughtered. One spear unit repulsed 3 charges by heavy cavalry. There wasn't much left of it by the end but the cavalry was also routed.

That's some good news then; I've revised the kill rates down to where they are in the current dev build (around 0.3 to 0.45 for all barring phalanxes), which I'll test before releasing 2.02b.

**Trax** · May 17, 2015, 04:31 PM

Yes, exactly what Frtigern was reporting is the scripted economic assistance for the AI (wrongly) working for the player. There was an erroneous "not" which meant it wasn't giving it to an AI-controlled faction, but only a human-controlled one.

Ha! That's why my Boii campaign was going a bit too smoothly. However AI managed rather well without assistance. Romans had no problem having 2 full stacks march into my territory by turn 100. They didn't attack me though, might have tried to go after Epirote homeland.

Any quick fix coming for this? This is quite game breaking unlike the combat mechanics which are more of a matter of taste anyway.

**QuintusSertorius** · May 17, 2015, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Trax

Ha! That's why my Boii campaign was going a bit too smoothly. However AI managed rather well without assistance. Romans had no problem having 2 full stacks march into my territory by turn 100. They didn't attack me though, might have tried to go after Epirote homeland.

Any quick fix coming for this? This is quite game breaking unlike the combat mechanics which are more of a matter of taste anyway.

I've finished with the campaign script (picked up some tribute/reform bits from the dev build), now moving on to the EDB - Hellenistic recruitment is being amended again to separate out polis, colony and government building in terms of their recruitment. Likely tomorrow.

**Iaius Statius Laurentius** · May 17, 2015, 05:47 PM

I dunno if I messed up the install or something, but I'm seeing Dread in the character stats and florins for prices. Don't think those were there in 2.01 as far as I recall.

**z3n** · May 17, 2015, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Iaius Statius Laurentius

I dunno if I messed up the install or something, but I'm seeing Dread in the character stats and florins for prices. Don't think those were there in 2.01 as far as I recall.

It sounds like your bin files did not regenerate properly. Try deleting all the bin files within your mtw2/mods/ebii/data/text folder. Make sure you delete only bin files. To make it easier- sort the files by doing this

Please report back if that works

**Frtigern** · May 17, 2015, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

No idea what to make of that, to be honest. Without an error log it's difficult to pinpoint.

Sorry, but where would I find that?

**QuintusSertorius** · May 17, 2015, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Frtigern

Sorry, but where would I find that?

That's my point, you won't find it. A Windows error message isn't helpful, it's the games' error messages that tell us what's gone wrong.

Just a quick update on kill rates, there was a missing number at the start of the melee section, which overrides everything else in there. Those later numbers are only relevant for the BAI's calculations of how it uses different kinds of troops.

**Kickaha** · May 17, 2015, 07:49 PM

I don't know if it's just the Steam version, but in my experience the M2TW executable never regenerates all of the strings.bin files correctly. The bin files for battle.txt, shared.txt, strat.txt, and tooltips.txt don't get created. I've found a simple solution is just to go into the data/text folder, create an empty text file and change its name to the missing strings.bin file. That is, create a new text file, which by default will be called 'New Text Document.txt', then rename it to 'battle.txt.strings.bin'. Windows will ask if you're sure you want to change the extension, but just tell it yes. The file size should be 0KB. Do the same for all of the other .txt files which don't have an associated .strings.bin file. Then run the program and it should fill in all the files correctly.

**Mantaprey** · May 17, 2015, 10:24 PM

2.02a M/M Nabatea 100 turns

Faction progression here
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...3#post14521593

Reports

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The seas
The fleets priority are concerned with blockading enemy ports and fighting enemy fleets as i saw Epiros fleets blockading Alalia then Rhodos and went home to fight the Romani fleet. They are also kept safely inside port if there are no enemies at sea. Once the pirates arrive sailing stops almost completely as the pirates have 3 or 4 units in their fleet as opposed to one unit for the ai. the pirates work together to destroy anybody, they look like the sea people when they hug the shore of Phoenicia. By turn 100 KH had 2 stacks of units stranded on Rhodos.

Age
Schooling
With a level 1 school the young adults spent 2-3 years there and gained the erudite(lightly educated) trait. The oldies picked up librarians and historians for themselves but remained neutral(no education).

Lifestyle
The 14 year olds have already decided that they want to settle or live on the move(level 1) by 17 they gained Horde chief and settled(level 3) traits. I believe they should take longer to develop as these are huge bonuses and negatives of 40% before they have reached 20 years old.

**z3n** · May 17, 2015, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I don't know if it's just the Steam version, but in my experience the M2TW executable never regenerates all of the strings.bin files correctly. The bin files for battle.txt, shared.txt, strat.txt, and tooltips.txt don't get created. I've found a simple solution is just to go into the data/text folder, create an empty text file and change its name to the missing strings.bin file. That is, create a new text file, which by default will be called 'New Text Document.txt', then rename it to 'battle.txt.strings.bin'. Windows will ask if you're sure you want to change the extension, but just tell it yes. The file size should be 0KB. Do the same for all of the other .txt files which don't have an associated .strings.bin file. Then run the program and it should fill in all the files correctly.

That's interesting, a few hours before I suggested we try the same thing to the team, thanks for confirming it works

**madmatg** · May 18, 2015, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I don't know if it's just the Steam version, but in my experience the M2TW executable never regenerates all of the strings.bin files correctly. The bin files for battle.txt, shared.txt, strat.txt, and tooltips.txt don't get created. I've found a simple solution is just to go into the data/text folder, create an empty text file and change its name to the missing strings.bin file. That is, create a new text file, which by default will be called 'New Text Document.txt', then rename it to 'battle.txt.strings.bin'. Windows will ask if you're sure you want to change the extension, but just tell it yes. The file size should be 0KB. Do the same for all of the other .txt files which don't have an associated .strings.bin file. Then run the program and it should fill in all the files correctly.

I'm using steam and mine are created automatically, maybe something else with your machine?

**tomySVK** · May 18, 2015, 01:38 AM

Congrats on new release

**QuintusSertorius** · May 18, 2015, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I don't know if it's just the Steam version, but in my experience the M2TW executable never regenerates all of the strings.bin files correctly. The bin files for battle.txt, shared.txt, strat.txt, and tooltips.txt don't get created. I've found a simple solution is just to go into the data/text folder, create an empty text file and change its name to the missing strings.bin file. That is, create a new text file, which by default will be called 'New Text Document.txt', then rename it to 'battle.txt.strings.bin'. Windows will ask if you're sure you want to change the extension, but just tell it yes. The file size should be 0KB. Do the same for all of the other .txt files which don't have an associated .strings.bin file. Then run the program and it should fill in all the files correctly.

Strange, I have a retail version and mine regenerates all the bin files - including those four.

But I'll include those for Steam users.

**AMcG** · May 18, 2015, 04:08 AM

I cannot fight seiges. Every time I try either as attacker or defender I get a CTD. This has persisted since the first release of version 2. Anyone else get this?

**Kickaha** · May 18, 2015, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by madmatg

I'm using steam and mine are created automatically, maybe something else with your machine?

That is strange. It can't be a permissions problem as it creates the other files correctly. It's not just EB2 either - it's happened to me so often that I keep a zip file with empty versions of the missing strings.bin files so I can put them back quickly.

**QuintusSertorius** · May 18, 2015, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by AMcG

I cannot fight seiges. Every time I try either as attacker or defender I get a CTD. This has persisted since the first release of version 2. Anyone else get this?

Sieges where? Is this every settlement everywhere, or a particular one? What does your error log say?

When you say version 2, do you mean 2.02?

Originally Posted by Kickaha

That is strange. It can't be a permissions problem as it creates the other files correctly. It's not just EB2 either - it's happened to me so often that I keep a zip file with empty versions of the missing strings.bin files so I can put them back quickly.

I've created blank .bin files which I can include in 2.02b, but I'm not sure if it won't create additional problems, for example non-English-language versions.

**Barnabas** · May 18, 2015, 06:36 AM

I want to try this 202a and I know I have to uninstall EBII first then install 201 as described in it's own thread and then 202a but I have a quick question. In order to uninstall EBII completely and yet have a functional M2TW vanilla in order to install EBII clean again, do I just uninstall it from the uninstaller in M2TW filesystem and then delete mods/EBII and that's all?

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