JWANT's 2

[JWANT]

I just assumed Rhun would go along with Harad but it does make sense to keep Rhun. Perhaps we should focus on the fighting in the north-east part of the map.

That would take away the conflict in the west between OoG & OotMM vs Men factions. That is an interesting battle as well but it may require too many players to continue both east & west map areas. Plus both players involved in this fight are not playing anymore.

I'm fine with eliminating HE and Eriador but I'm not sure how to handle the orc factions or the other Men factions. I think some of them would also have to be eliminated.

If we could find one more player then we could eliminate the Good Men factions plus maybe HE and be left with OoG & OotMM, SE (& HE?), Dwarves, Harad & Rhun. That's 4 teams left remaining, all in their original set-up. That would focus the fighting to one area of the map. If HE is kept then there is potential for fighting across the entire northern part of the map.

Thoughts?

[Chieftain Khuzaymah]

It would be fine by me. Focussing on a part of the map isn't a bad idea, I think.

[themzr]

Wouldn't OOG/OOTMM be too strong compared to the HE/SE, and be able to steamroll them?!?

[Chieftain Khuzaymah]

Themzr may be right there. Also, it's not very easy to have HE in the game with its westernmost settlements while the map is focused on the east.

Perhaps HE could be eliminated and the team will be SE + (Rohan or Gondor). Or even SE + (Rohan or Gondor) + (HE with Imladris only). That is, if someone is willing to play 3 factions.

[Chieftain Khuzaymah]

I propose the following:

Allliance of Men and Elves:
Player A: High Elves (Imladris only) + Silvan Elves
Player B: Rohan or Gondor

Aliance of Orcs:
Player C: Orcs of the Misty Mountains + Orcs of Gundabad

Alliance of Evil Men:
Player D: Rhun + Harad

Kingdom of Dwarves:
Player E: Dwarves

Factions to be eliminated:
- Eriador
- Dale
- Rohan or Gondor, depending on the choice of Player B

As players we currently have:
- JWANT (Player A)
- Themzr (Player D)
- Chieftain (Player E)

I'm not sure about Adanedhel, I've asked him if he would like to continue playing, even if that is with less factions. He could for example take either Rohan or Gondor, so he would have to play only 1 faction.
Furthermore, Jason contacted me if there was a spot available. Perhaps he could become player C as Alliance of the Orcs.

[Also, I don't mind to recognize Adanedhel and Viking victors of this HS (perhaps themzr too as their ally?). They played well and defeated several enemies. At this point they are a huge powerhouse together and it would be hard to stop them. As a Dwarf, however, I can not just surrender, but I realize and understand Adanedhel lost interest to play 4 factions after all their accomplishments. In any case, I would like to play on in this HS and thus I propose the above.]

[Jason Wolf]

Have not played the Orcs before. This should be interesting.

[Adanedhel]

I guess I could take one faction, if you can't find anyone else, though it will be my least prioritized hotseat.

[JWANT]

I guess I could take one faction, if you can't find anyone else, though it will be my least prioritized hotseat.

Would you like to take Rohan or Gondor? I'm content with a relaxed paced hotseat as well so not prioritizing this hotseat shouldn't be an issue. I can sub you if needed.

[themzr]

I am fine with a more relaxed hotseat anyway. This could be one for fun and pleasure and not one of high stress.

[Adanedhel]

If I am to fight against Harad, I should probably have access to ships. What will happen to the Rohan regions, if I choose Gondor? Can I capture them? (the same question, if I choose Rohan)

[JWANT]

If I am to fight against Harad, I should probably have access to ships. What will happen to the Rohan regions, if I choose Gondor? Can I capture them? (the same question, if I choose Rohan)

I'd recommend Gondor then - and allow the Rohan territories to be captured.

[themzr]

If I am to fight against Harad, I should probably have access to ships. What will happen to the Rohan regions, if I choose Gondor? Can I capture them? (the same question, if I choose Rohan)

If you are to fight Harad....

[JWANT]

If you are to fight Harad....

It might happen at some point!

Still mulling over some ideas about how to revive this. I'd like to finalize a decision with the players in the next few days so we can continue.

[Jason Wolf]

I cant join. I am already part of a few other hs and I don't have a lot of time. Sorry.

[Adanedhel]

A Team A vs Team B seem fine with me.

[joerock22]

Responding to Chieftain's PM, I would be willing to rejoin. I have no idea what the current situation is, as I have not followed this hotseat since being crushed by Rohan/Eriador/Gondor being defeated.

[Chieftain Khuzaymah]

Allright, so far everyone but JWANT responded. Dragon was interested to play but he couldn't find the time for another HS. Probably my fault, as I keep contacting him in case I need a replacement

So we currently have themzr, Adanedhel, Joe and me available. We will now wait for JWANT to respond, he has gone MIA for a couple of days now, so I hope he will return soon.
(Quite confident he wants to participate in his own HS)

[JWANT]

My apologies for going MIA. The last 2 weeks I have had a working internet connection for about 2 days. I think it is fixed now.

A big thank you to Chieftain for reviving this hotseat and I'm sorry I could not have done so sooner.

Team A vs B sounds good to me.

[Chieftain Khuzaymah]

Don't worry That is out of your hands. Glad you are back now.

So we have 5 players. Evil Men & Men were allied already and SE and Dwarves have some sort of unofficial NAP. The first idea that comes to mind is
Team A: Dwarves & Silvan Elves (& High Elves?)
vs
Team B: OotMM & Rohan & Rhun (& Dale?)

Another possibility
Team A: Dwarves & Silvan Elves & OotMM
vs
Team B: Rhun & Harad & Rohan & Gondor & Dale (except Rhun and Harad can not be allied ingame)

The point is that I'm trying to create a setup in the east of Middle-Earth

I'm don't really know the situation for every faction and of course I can not check them, so it makes it hard to judge what is really fair.

All input is appreciated!

[themzr]

I like possibility #2