Caen just won't go

**RexMortali** · November 16, 2006, 11:55 AM

Hi guys, I'm still having problem with barracks in Caen.

1. I have to upgrade my castle to a fortress to be able to build barracks right?

2. What do i have to do to be able to upgrade the castle to a fortress?

3. Thank you ;-)

**evya** · November 16, 2006, 11:59 AM

The population in the city has to reach a certain number
6000 if i'm not mistaken

**Hurricane** · November 16, 2006, 12:08 PM

Try sending peasants to Caen from nearby cities and castles, then disband them once they are inside Caen. It shouldn't take too long to get the population up that way.

**RexMortali** · November 16, 2006, 12:09 PM

Oh so they upgrade the same way as cities? cool, thanks

Edit: it doesn't work that way with disbanding anymore

**Hurricane** · November 16, 2006, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by RexMortali

Oh so they upgrade the same way as cities? cool, thanks

Edit: it doesn't work that way with disbanding anymore

It doesn't? damn, I haven't really needed to try it in M2:TW, so I just presumed it was unchanged from Rome, oh well

Here's the city/castle upgrade population stats from the manual anyways:

Fortress = 4500
Citadel = 9000
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Town = 400
Large Town = 2000
City = 6000
Large City = 12000
Huge City = 24000

**Lusted** · November 16, 2006, 12:23 PM

You need a opulation of 4500 to be able to upgrade a castle to a fortress. You should be able to build some barrack buildings even if it is a castle, they'll be called Town Watch etc.

**RexMortali** · November 16, 2006, 01:05 PM

Yeah i build them already but didn't know bout the barracks. Need swordsmen as qucik as possible. Thanks!

**Soryn Arkayn** · November 16, 2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by RexMortali

Yeah i build them already but didn't know bout the barracks. Need swordsmen as qucik as possible. Thanks!

I'm also disappointed that you can't train swordsmen sooner. I could only train spearmen infantry for my first ~40 turns. Luckily I only encountered Rebel spearmen, because my light infantry would've been cut to pieces by enemy swordsmen. Finally, I was able to upgrade my castles in Caen and ... (the settlement north of London?) ... to Fortresses, which enabled me to train Billmen (which AREN'T nearly as strong as a remembered from M:TW). I then constructed a military building (can't recall which one) in my second Fortress that enabled me to train Dismounted Knights. I'm currently constructing a Barracks in that Fortress that'll enable me to train basic Swordsmen; I'm eager to crank out these bad boys, because my enemies, HRE and Milan, don't appear to have any heavy infantry yet.

**Hurricane** · November 16, 2006, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Soryn Arkayn

I'm also disappointed that you can't train swordsmen sooner. I could only train spearmen infantry for my first ~40 turns. Luckily I only encountered Rebel spearmen, because my light infantry would've been cut to pieces by enemy swordsmen. Finally, I was able to upgrade my castles in Caen and ... (the settlement north of London?) ... to Fortresses, which enabled me to train Billmen (which AREN'T nearly as strong as a remembered from M:TW). I then constructed a military building (can't recall which one) in my second Fortress that enabled me to train Dismounted Knights. I'm currently constructing a Barracks in that Fortress that'll enable me to train basic Swordsmen; I'm eager to crank out these bad boys, because my enemies, HRE and Milan, don't appear to have any heavy infantry yet.

The settlement north of London is called Nottingham and I really don't know why CA decided to make all pike, halberd and billmen units have higher attack stats than defence, I remember in M:TW they were really good defensive units, now they are nowhere near as good as their used to be :hmmm: