[Submod] AOPK 3.0: The Kings Beyond the Wall

[AdmiralThrawn]

Here's another quick unit preview:



These are knights from House Swann's recruitment region (covering House Dondarrion, House Grandison, and House Trant). While a lot of regions will mostly have the same base rosters (sometimes with a few additions and subtractions), the different skins and shields should help to add some more variety to the battles.

[AdmiralThrawn]

Just a quick shout out: Everyone, if you like this mod, please rep rj2long (his only post is earlier in the thread I believe). He has single-handedly done hidden family trees and strat positioning for most of Westeros and pushed the release date weeks ahead of schedule all by himself. I've already rep'd once, but he deserves way more so please show that post some love .

Apart from that, things are moving along much faster than I would have thought (though obviously there's still a long road ahead). More updates soon!

[rj2long]

Just a quick shout out: Everyone, if you like this mod, please rep rj2long (his only post is earlier in the thread I believe). He has single-handedly done hidden family trees and strat positioning for most of Westeros and pushed the release date weeks ahead of schedule all by himself. I've already rep'd once, but he deserves way more so please show that post some love .

Apart from that, things are moving along much faster than I would have thought (though obviously there's still a long road ahead). More updates soon!

D'aw, shucks it was nothing.

It kept me from going crazy of boredom while i was stuck at home for a few days (stupid wisdom teeth)

[Robb99]

Will each faction have a number of special units?

[GlacierHeart]

Hey first off is like to say that I greatly appreciate your work, been having a lot of fun with my friend playing hotseats with this mod.
I have a decent amount of past experience modding my game for personal use and uploading a few mods of my own for another game.
i was wondering if you still needed help with this, particularly with coding buildings and there chains. If so I would love to make then for you.
i have lots of ideas and would love to assist you with this amazing mod .
Post on here if your interested at all, or maybe need help in another area.
Thanks for all your great work! Cheers!

[AdmiralThrawn]

We could use all the help we can get, especially on building chains! PM sent!

[GlacierHeart]

Hey did you get my response?
Sorry ive never pm'ed anyone on here before actually ><

[Maniatis1453]

Hello rj2long!
I was very pleased that someone decided to take the part of creating family trees in Admirals mod.
I believe that make the mod more realistic because is boring to have just a general in map,
Who dies and leaves nothing behind him.
But if you have an entire family behind him and sons to caring of his name and legacy,
With a castle and a family story it seems to me more accurate to the history of Westeros.



But in the KORAH mob if you ever played,
The marriages is a a problem and often seeing minor families dying.
Because they don't marrying with each other or with someone new person added from the script.
I would like to ask you if is possible to fix that?


Thank you for your effort!!!

[rj2long]

Hello rj2long!
I was very pleased that someone decided to take the part of creating family trees in Admirals mod.
I believe that make the mod more realistic because is boring to have just a general in map,
Who dies and leaves nothing behind him.
But if you have an entire family behind him and sons to caring of his name and legacy,
With a castle and a family story it seems to me more accurate to the history of Westeros.



But in the KORAH mob if you ever played,
The marriages is a a problem and often seeing minor families dying.
Because they don't marrying with each other or with someone new person added from the script.
I would like to ask you if is possible to fix that?


Thank you for your effort!!!

I agree, family trees for all the houses really adds to the whole family and legacy themes of asoaif.

As to the other part there are traits that generals can get to increase chances of having children, but besides that i'm not sure what you could do. i'm by no means an experienced modder, so their could be a way to keep the family bloodlines going that i don't know about but i did add a lot of children so that should keep them going a while.

[Iron Aquilifer]

As to the other part there are traits that generals can get to increase chances of having children, but besides that i'm not sure what you could do. i'm by no means an experienced modder, so their could be a way to keep the family bloodlines going that i don't know about but i did add a lot of children so that should keep them going a while.

The number of children/family members you can have is decided by how many settlements a faction has, this creates the scenario where +fertility traits actually add very little, if anything. If a faction is below its threshold it will get a child or if there is an unmarried woman, marriage offers until she is married.

[AdmiralThrawn]

At the moment I believe most generals have sons, and games rarely last more than 2 generations so I think it should be fixed. That being said, as with all potential features, if anyone wants to write a character-adding script they're welcome to .

[AdmiralThrawn]

Also, I could use some input: should House Stark start the game with the Mountain Clans under their control? Basically they consist of five or six holdfasts up in the winding mountains, all somewhat lightly held and with minimal recruitment possibilities. I'm thinking that it would be wiser to have them start the game as rebels, and Stark and Umber can then fight over them. Also, it would be more balanced considering that Stark is already pretty powerful, and giving them 5 more (admittedly weak) castles would be a bit OP. Your thoughts?

[rj2long]

Yeah I would say make it rebel. Should make games a little more unpredictable.

[TheGreenSenpai]

yeah rebel,lets say that the clansmen didnt serve the starks back then and much later the starks brought them under their control,also did you listen my suggestion for lonely light?

[AdmiralThrawn]

Yeah, I'll probably just make them rebels. It gives the Starks something to do if they don't bumrush the Three Sisters alongside everyone else.

yeah rebel,lets say that the clansmen didnt serve the starks back then and much later the starks brought them under their control,also did you listen my suggestion for lonely light?

That I did, Lonely-Light is now in-game.

Edit: Here is the new start-menu map. I'll probably personalize it so the different factions light up when selected.

[GlacierHeart]

Honestly, im kinda down for the rebel situation. i havnt really seen what balton does now that sunderland isnt harassing it, but unless they step up there game stark always wins so far for me ><.

That was !.0 though ;].

Plus I personally like rebel territories, only because you never know who will end up with them, and i like to never know what gunna happen ><. also then i can sail up there with some random faction, and then conquer the north haha. Although you can prolly do that with Skagos

[IBSXYPNTS]

I think rebel would be the best. It adds some uncertainty to the whole situation up there.

[Drazule]

Honestly, you could make them empty settlements. They seem to respect 'diplomatic' approaches to their people and they seem to like bigger lords touring their villages for loyalty. It would be a cool way around the lore, if not a little easy to exploit, if your generals walking in the settlements will count as having eaten enough of their food to be taken into the fold, and for more advanced features, spawn the appropriate flint and pinecone general that would be associated with that settlement.

If not, go for the rebels. It gives the Starks and Umbers to fight over something without breaking their alliance.

[Rovdyr740]

Can't seem to find where to Download this mod any links? and do i need something els installed before i can run this?

[Drazule]

You forgot Ghaston Grey!!!!!