To kill Attila and the massive huns buff

**tonmai2541** · April 12, 2015, 10:28 PM

After searching on how to kill attila for several sites, I come up with these very contradicting ideas.

1.Attila has 1 life ?
2.Attila has 2 lives ?
3.Attila has 3 lives ?
4.Atilla has random number of life ?
5.Attila need to be killed in battle you manually fight to be killed ?
6.Attila can be killed with autoresolve ?
7.Attila can be killed by agent ?
Attila need to be a king -- not an heir in order to be killed ?
8.When Attila is killed the huns stop getting its (rediculous) buff ?

As a side note, I really do think that the buff is too rediculous. I have fought massive battle(2 vs 4) with them for almost 3 decades now and it still keeps coming. I know this game is named Atilla total war but it's just a grinding experience rather than nail bitting at this point. An appropriate number of battle I need to fight with the huns until they are gone for good should be 3-4 times I think.

**Theo** · April 12, 2015, 10:40 PM

Yeah they really dropped the ball on implementing their title character into the game. I haven't seen any consistency in any of my campaigns regarding Attila. I killed him 5 different times in one campaign (wiped out his entire stack each time). Never got any messages about it. Another time he never became faction leader so was un-killeable until 445.

**Aeratus** · April 12, 2015, 11:39 PM

Attila has a random number of lives, but the minimum is 3.

The first time you kill him, he will not die.
The second time you kill him, he also will not die, but the second attempt is the first time you have a chance to trigger a perma-kill on the next-kill. If you got lucky enough to trigger this, you will get a popup message on the campaign screen.

Attila becomes both the faction leader and a general at year 420. If he doesn't, then your game is bugged.

**tonmai2541** · April 12, 2015, 11:40 PM

So he really need to be king to be killed then ? That suck as it seems like he won't gonna be king any time soon in my campaign too (current king is Charaton) it is 433 ad.

Can anyone PM me how to edit a post ? I forgot to add number on the (supposedly) number 8

**tonmai2541** · April 12, 2015, 11:45 PM

Attila becomes both the faction leader and a general at year 420. If he doesn't, then your game is bugged.

Mind is still an heir but he is a general though.......so new campaign then ?

**Aeratus** · April 12, 2015, 11:53 PM

If he didn't become king at Spring 420, then your game bugged. If I had to guess, I would guess that you cannot kill Attila if he is not their faction leader. I'm not sure if you can fix this by killing Charaton, but you can try that.

Attila dies automatically in 445. So you can always wait them out. As long as attila dies (either automatically at 445 or by you killing him sucessfully), the Huns stop respawning.

**tonmai2541** · April 13, 2015, 12:26 AM

Well, Charaton is the king in the diplomatic window but when I actually went to find his horde, it is Atilla -- the heir -- who is commanding Charaton's army, so yeah definitely a bug when I think about it. However, I have no intention to grind it out with the huns until 445 though, I will start a new campaign instead

**stevehoos** · April 13, 2015, 05:07 AM

I think CA has reached -or surpassed- the threshold where sandbox and scripting become incompatible with each other.

**Humble Warrior** · April 13, 2015, 05:49 AM

Personally, I believe Attila should die the first time he is killed, whether the Player gets to ever see Attila or not. Sure, buff him a bit, but when he`s dead, he`s dead. Just because Attila lived to a certain time does not mean he MUST live to a certain time ingame- History can be different. It`s also a cheap cop-out way to keep him as a a `problem` rather than work something realistic out. Typical CA.

I really dislike this crap of making `named` historical leaders unkillable.

I also don`t like how he`s guaranteed to be born on a certain date. this should be flexible to within a few years before or after. Again, Attila was not guaranteed to be born at this time and date, it could easily have been a little later or earlier. heck, it would be even cooler if there could be a very small chance he was stillborn and never shows up.

**gregnaar** · April 13, 2015, 06:09 AM

I just Killed Attila and wiped out the Huns in 424 yesterday, and after that, won a minor victory as WRE

I killed him once manually, twice with autoresolve. After the third time, he was dead for real.
Now i kind of miss the respawning doomstacks.

He was king from 417. He can only be wounded by agents.

**jtfjtfjtf** · April 13, 2015, 06:34 AM

There's a mod that eliminates the Hun spam script. I played two campaigns (as non Huns) and the first one the Huns died before Attila came of age. And the second, Attila came of age, but the Huns had only 1 army and were shortly killed afterwards. It would be nice if there was a middle ground script that would either give the Huns a one time multi stack reinforcement if they're still around at 420 or resurrect them in 420 with multiple stacks once with Attila as leader if they were killed earlier.