Frankish Faction Color

[Darios]

Am I the only person here who misses the navy blue faction color of the Franks in Barbarian Invasion? It was a proud and noble color for a faction that eventually ruled much of western Europe, had its king crowned as "Emperor of the Romans", and gave birth to the Kingdom of France and the Holy Roman Empire. The current teal color of the Franks in Attila sorta makes them look rather unimposing. In fact, the Franks, Saxons, Burgundians, and Alemans all have various hues of green so it's sometimes rather difficult to discern each faction on the campaign mini-map. I don't really get what CA was thinking here - highlighting their desire to make the game into a race war between Germans and Romans?

Think about it this way - imagine a Justinian (or Heraclius) era campaign map where the Sassanid Empire is gold, the ERE is a royal purple, and the Franks are teal o.O

[TheDeaconBosco]

For the life of me I can't understand why did CA think that giving the 20 or so germanic factions in the game only green color schemes (Visigoths, Ostrogoths and Langobards not included) was a good idea.

[Darios]

For the life of me I can't understand why did CA think that giving the 20 or so germanic factions in the game only green color schemes (Visigoths, Ostrogoths and Langobards not included) was a good idea.

I think that CA really wanted to highlight the Germans vs. Romans thing even if the Germanic tribes weren't exactly buddy buddy with one another The Visigoths and Franks fought some real wars over Gaul and the Visigoths even fought the Ostrogoths (but in Attila they are allies)

In any regard, the Frankish faction color is a big let down simply because they should be seen as a major power. Imagine if the Romans or Sassanids were teal.

[Generaal Van Heutsz]

There are many things that need to be fixed with this faction, like shock cavalry should be make usefull and not die on disengaging, their top tier infantry, is rather mediocre and expensive compared to other faction, the elite swordheerbann should actually be better than the sword heerbann and not lose their melee attack, and why are the germanic warband resistant to fear and fearsome but better frankish axe units become squeemish and are not to be feared any,ore? And yeah the color is rather dreary but maybe it's historic? And maybe they should lose the javelins and every units should get throwing axes as precursors, it sort of was their thing...

And the unit names should be low german, not high german, the high german shift had not occurred yet at that time...

[Aeneas Veneratio]

It needs to be pointing out that it is the same with the tribes in Britannia, the Ebdanians, the Caledonians and the Picts are all light blue. CA is trying to make the game into a war between cultures (ethnic groups) and I can't wait for a mod to change that.

[PeonKing]

It needs to be pointing out that it is the same with the tribes in Britannia, the Ebdanians, the Caledonians and the Picts are all light blue. CA is trying to make the game into a war between cultures (ethnic groups) and I can't wait for a mod to change that.

Wait. Isn't it Blue, Light blue, and Dark Green (Ebdanians)? I thought that's what they are now.


Also I like teal. Teal is a good color. I would be okay with a teal Rome.

[pratolano]

I too hope a mod comes out to change the colors of the Franks and some other factions. The Germanics are all too similar at the moment. It's confusing especially when you spend most of your time (at least in early and mid-game) in that section of the map.

[Lugotorix]

I too hope a mod comes out to change the colors of the Franks and some other factions. The Germanics are all too similar at the moment. It's confusing especially when you spend most of your time (at least in early and mid-game) in that section of the map.

@ OP Darios, you are by far not the only one. This has been bothering me since launch. Eventually, I just let it grow on me. The sparrow on the blue field was so incredibly noble. Thankfully @ quote There are mods for that. There's a mod for both. Blue colors, as well as the old emblem.

[Darios]

It needs to be pointing out that it is the same with the tribes in Britannia, the Ebdanians, the Caledonians and the Picts are all light blue. CA is trying to make the game into a war between cultures (ethnic groups) and I can't wait for a mod to change that.

The Ebdanians were blue before the Celts DLC was released, now they are dark green.

As for Germanic tribes the Bastarnae, Gepids, Greuthungians, Lugians, Marcomans, Quadians, Rugians, Varinians, and Thuringians are also various hues of green. I understand that is a big number of factions to differentiate from one another but the playable ones should at least be made more distinct from the non-playable ones. When I look at Germania in the campaign map and see a sea of green.

@The sparrow on the blue field was so incredibly noble.

Yep, it looked great! A faction symbol/color worthy of the major western European power after the fall of Rome. It was great seeing Gaul turn blue during my campaigns because it gave the impression that a worthy faction had conquered it. When I look at it now and see teal I wonder "now which Germanic tribe is that one?"

[Imperator Artorius]

In which case you may want to check out Noif's faction emblems. It gives the Franks back their BI blue and gives the Saxons a very menacing red.

[pratolano]

In which case you may want to check out Noif's faction emblems. It gives the Franks back their BI blue and gives the Saxons a very menacing red.

Awesome!!! Thanks for mentioning that! That's a game-changer.

[Imperator Artorius]

Awesome!!! Thanks for mentioning that! That's a game-changer.

Yeah I practically can't play the game without it. Such a simple change to something apparently quite minor but it makes all the difference.

[pratolano]

Yeah I practically can't play the game without it. Such a simple change to something apparently quite minor but it makes all the difference.

It totally does! Do you use the all-in-one? I can't tell if I like the vanilla or modded Norse and Roman Empire factions emblems. The vanilla Geats is probably my favorite in the game, but the new ones are kinda cool too.

[Imperator Artorius]

It totally does! Do you use the all-in-one? I can't tell if I like the vanilla or modded Norse and Roman Empire factions emblems. The vanilla Geats is probably my favorite in the game, but the new ones are kinda cool too.

I don't but I have all of them enabled separately. I either must have missed the all-in-one or downloaded the emblems before he made it lol

[Sagat]

geez are you going to create a topic for even when you have the tiniest of opinions on something..
this forum better brace itself for you buddy


You could have spared us all another useless thread and just downloaded Noif's faction flags, this is the Frank emblem

[Darios]

geez are you going to create a topic for even when you have the tiniest of opinions on something..
this forum better brace itself for you buddy

This forum has been dealing with me for years now

You could have spared us all another useless thread and just downloaded Noif's faction flags, this is the Frank emblem

I am more curious learn about CA's reasoning behind various ideas/features in the game as opposed to quick fixes with mods.

[Imperator Artorius]

Honestly, CA's reasoning behind a lot of features is "curious", for lack of a better word. But until they deign to reveal to us mortals why they do certain things, the mod does solve the problem rather nicely.

[Sagat]

So then you must have known for "years" then that CA's Total War games are a mix of historical accuracy and balanced gameplay right ?
Yet here you are still "curious".....
Do you sit at home pondering, brimming with curiosity about other simple things.... perhaps the sun being yellow ? would it shock you if I told you it's actually white

Question you have has a simple answer, and better yet a simple solution... this thread is like a bad movie, full of plot holes and contradictions...
Next time I see your name below a thread, I'll make sure to keep walking and

[pratolano]

Hey Imperator, are the units on the battlefield supposed to match their unit card colors? Playing as the Saxons, Franks and Jutes so far, my units are all mostly yellow instead of red, blue, etc. Just wondering if I did something wrong, or that's as intended.

[Imperator Artorius]

Hey Imperator, are the units on the battlefield supposed to match their unit card colors? Playing as the Saxons, Franks and Jutes so far, my units are all mostly yellow instead of red, blue, etc. Just wondering if I did something wrong, or that's as intended.

Well my units all match their colours. My Franks are Blue and the Saxons are mostly red, although a couple of units aren't like on the spear units I believe. So thats either due to the all-in-one mod or something is wrong. You aren't using any other unit mods are you?