A Good Place to Settle Down?

[EmperorBatman999]

So I want to try some campaigns as the Ostrogoths and Vandals, but I don't know where it would be good to settle down. I want some space to grow and make a good foundation for an empire.

I've tried experimenting with a couple of different locations. Southern Greece seems easy to get to, but it is claustrophobic and the ERE is strong. Plus the economy is weak and I wasn't able to grab a lot of money. I couldn't expand and take Constantinople as a result.

I had some success in Tarentum and I was able to grab Italy and the Balkans a few patches ago, but I was still sort of penned in and I gave up after a minor victory. It was hard to grow outside Italy, and my march into Gaul combined with my lack of knowledge about game mechanics (I ran out of food and my cities had squalor problems) led me to giving up. Now I want to restart and go for a major victory.

The other thing is that it is a royal pain to convert Roman cities to Barbarian. Perhaps this time I won't build so many armies once I'm settled down to keep a budget for development.

[Slaists]

One word - Spain... for any migrating faction.

[stalker33]

The city Khersonesos which is in Crimea. it has walls, access to sea and a building that provides food.

[EmperorBatman999]

The city Khersonesos which is in Crimea. it has walls, access to sea and a building that provides food.

That is near the Hun spawn though isn't it? That might be untenable later in the game.

[stalker33]

That is near the Hun spawn though isn't it? That might be untenable later in the game.

No idea about the huns
Try Carthage and the north african coast then.

[Slaists]

That is near the Hun spawn though isn't it? That might be untenable later in the game.

Yeah, I would not recommend Khersonesos. It is right in the way of the Huns and Sassanids + their horde of satraps are likely to get there soon as well.

The Hunnic hordes spawn anywhere in the North-Eastern part of the map.

[Bramborough]

Haven't played a long-migration campaign yet, but when I do, Spain or perhaps Mauretania is where I intend to go.

[Emperor of The Great Unknown]

If you can make it Egypt, or Edessa. (You should probably not be at war with both ERE and Sassanids for this to work tho.

[crowe15]

Spain(Gallacia) and Africa

[gregnaar]

Try Dacia as the game suggests, it would be interesting.

[GussieFinkNottle]

Eventually the map fertility will look like this (which is insane):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

And shortly before that, it will look like this:

So it's clear the most fertile and reliable homelands are Southern Gaul, Western Iberia, North Africa or Northern Italy. As a whole, the Western Mediterranean. The WRE holds almost all the vital end-game territory. Whichever one of these regions is the most defensible in your campaign would be the best bet. Gallaecia and Lusitania could be good, you build up a base there until you are ready to expand with a line of razed settlements in the poor-fertility Eastern Spanish regions as a buffer zone between you and rivals.

[crowe15]

Eventually the map fertility will look like this (which is insane):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

And shortly before that, it will look like this:

So it's clear the most fertile and reliable homelands are Southern Gaul, Western Iberia, North Africa or Northern Italy. As a whole, the Western Mediterranean. The WRE holds almost all the vital end-game territory. Whichever one of these regions is the most defensible in your campaign would be the best bet. Gallaecia and Lusitania could be good, you build up a base there until you are ready to expand with a line of razed settlements in the poor-fertility Eastern Spanish regions as a buffer zone between you and rivals.

Thanks for showing us a broken mechanic in TW:Atilla.

Like the planet was ing infertile during the 5th century.

[GussieFinkNottle]

Thanks for showing us a broken mechanic in TW:Atilla.

Like the planet was ing infertile during the 5th century.

Lol there's no hope, perhaps we should press-gang all humans into being farmers while we send a few people down a wormhole to find a new planet.

[RightNow0815]

I've had a pretty enduring Saxon campaign, settling down in Carthage, Africa. Managed to expand my empire to Spain and later, Gaul.
However, it is crucial to somehow ally with the neighbouring desert tribes (you really don't want their regions...). Another problem could be the Sassanids and their puppets, they often love to expand into Egypt and transform into some pretty greedy neighbours, y'know...
But regarding how far away the Huns are - I actually managed to reach the last stage of "apocalypse" without even fighting a single hunnic unit at all - and the base fertility, this is clearly one if not the best position on the map to settle down.

Regards.

[Bedzio]

As danes i settled in aethiopia its nice province in capital got furs which give u food bonus which of course is very usefull, due to climat change also nice addition is possibility to convert to minor religions. Also you can capture Alexandria(rather obvious move), so it will be possible to trade with many nations. I noticed that when u settle in italy, karthage or spain u will get a lot of other barbarian nations as neighbours. As we know neighbours dont like each other most of the time, so not settling in those regions makes it possible to trade with all of those factions. Now in turn 112 i have something like 20 trade agreements. Only problem are sassanids, they will probably go to war with u and that can be problematic with all of theirs subjugates. But in fact raiding babilon and persian is funny (sry for bad grammar (probably))

[Nicolaos]

Hispania is the best place to settle IMO:

-WRE seems to tend to move its troops to Italy, leaving the whole Iberian peninsula defenseless. You can horde your way to Hispania and raid every settlement you come across, leaving you with a large treasury to finance the establishment of your empire.

-Hispania offers great resources. Basically there is everything you need. Iron, olives, wine, stone. In North Africa you can also find wood.

-The Pyrenaes offer a great defensive position against other factions, at least via land route.

-Hispania is and stays one of the most fertile regions during the whole game.

I have also tried to settle in other locations.
Britannia was a struggle at first against the Celtic factions, but worked out rather well in the end. However, I felt a little bit too isolated during the campaign.
Egypt was an interesting experience, but the ERE sent one stack after another and gave me a hard time building up an economy.

[Noif de Bodemloze]

So far, I am settled to Rome, Carthago and Nova Carthago. Hispania and Italy is great place to settle for get easy money.

[Bramborough]

Sort of a thread hijack, but related to the same overall topic...

I haven't played a long-migration campaign yet. Once I finish my current ERE run, I intend to play one of the Migratrors (probably Visigoths or Vandals) and take them to either Spain or perhaps Mauretania. What's the best route?

1. Direct route through northern Italy?
2. Go up north of the Alps and then back down through Gaul?
3. Go seaborne through the Med?

[Nicolaos]

Sort of a thread hijack, but related to the same overall topic...

I haven't played a long-migration campaign yet. Once I finish my current ERE run, I intend to play one of the Migratrors (probably Visigoths or Vandals) and take them to either Spain or perhaps Mauretania. What's the best route?

1. Direct route through northern Italy?
2. Go up north of the Alps and then back down through Gaul?
3. Go seaborne through the Med?

Don't take the sea route. For once you lose the opportunity to sack settlements and build up your treasury. Secondly the chance of getting attacked on the sea is rather high and enemy fleets can easily dump your fleet (trust me, been there...)

The two land routes aren't that different from each other. Personal preference. However, I feel like the cities in Italy are too close to each other and you can easily get caught up in their zone of control. Also, WRE tends to gather its armies in Italy, so you will encounter enemy stacks there.
That's why I would go for the northern route, if possible.

[Emperor of The Great Unknown]

You might as well settle in the far north eastern steppe and wait for the world to go infertile. live off of goats, horde spam armies of goat farmers.