Is it just me or are artillery ships unrealistcally accurate?

[89JeepYJ]

Don't get me wrong, I think this game is awesome, but it seems like the artillery ships are more accurate than they should be. Maybe that's just my opinion. But it seems like it's almost guaranteed that each shot will hit one of your ships, even from a far distance. Maybe it's just a way to balance naval warfare in the game, I don't know.

[GussieFinkNottle]

It's to balance the fact that they've been given ridiculously long reload times, low ammo and high damage. If they just lowered the damage, decreased the accuracy and upped the ammo to bring it to the more sensible Rome II level, all these problems would be resolved. Artillery of all sorts is extremely badly done in Attila.

[89JeepYJ]

It's to balance the fact that they've been given ridiculously long reload times, low ammo and high damage. If they just lowered the damage, decreased the accuracy and upped the ammo to bring it to the more sensible Rome II level, all these problems would be resolved. Artillery of all sorts is extremely badly done in Attila.

Is it better in Rome 2? I'm hesitant on buying the game because I hear it's not worth it. But the naval battles look awesome.

[Telenil]

Is it better in Rome 2? I'm hesitant on buying the game because I hear it's not worth it. But the naval battles look awesome.

IMO Rome II is certainly worth it, but the naval battles are the worst part of that game. I've played for 150 hours and still have no clue how they work (I understood them quickly enough in Attila).

Long story short, you will probably enjoy Rome II if you enjoyed Attila, but the one thing you should not expect is better naval battles.

[nameless]

IMO Rome II is certainly worth it, but the naval battles are the worst part of that game. I've played for 150 hours and still have no clue how they work (I understood them quickly enough in Attila).

Long story short, you will probably enjoy Rome II if you enjoyed Attila, but the one thing you should not expect is better naval battles.

Dude what're you talking about the Naval battles in Attila is very good and a lot better than Rome 2.

The major difference is that not all ships are rammers meaning you don't have to worry about the AI's awesome microing in ramming your ships.

This means that boarding ships actually mean something in battle as they can close in without worry and are like a fire and forget weapon.

My fleets usually compose of rammers/fire ships and artillery warships. Artillery warships in the center focus fire and take down several ships while the ramming ships flank the enemy and draw attention away. Ramming ships are so powerful they can take down even a naval ship in 1-2 hits. So even if the enemy boards one I have another ramming ship coming in to take it out from the side.

And transport ships are so weak even a ramming ship's marine contingent is more than capable of fighting off even a general unit on a transport.

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Maybe they appear to be overly accurate because the difficulty level is set to be too high? If you're playing on a high difficulty level, artillery ships will lay waste to your fleet in no time because their accuracy is insane.

[RGA]

Wait until you have a amphibious battle where those Dreadnoughts pulverise your land troops without any danger to themselves

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Wait until you have a amphibious battle where those Dreadnoughts pulverise your land troops without any danger to themselves

Haha yeah, AI artillery ships in coastal battles are a pain to deal with. Especially if the AI has the tier-2 artillery ships that have infinite ammo through replenishment.

[nameless]

The OP is wrong.

Artillery units in general have horrible accuracy that in siege battles you can maybe take out 1 - 2 walls and 1-2 towers and that's it. With Ship artillery you need enough on the field to compensate for the horrible accuracy it's not even funny.

AI Artillery units on the OTHER HAND are unrealistically accurate that it's freaking annoying. They can take out several towers as they have a higher chance of accuracy and in a naval battle their ships have a higher chance of scoring hits on you than you on them.

[GussieFinkNottle]

The OP is wrong.

Artillery units in general have horrible accuracy that in siege battles you can maybe take out 1 - 2 walls and 1-2 towers and that's it. With Ship artillery you need enough on the field to compensate for the horrible accuracy it's not even funny.

AI Artillery units on the OTHER HAND are unrealistically accurate that it's freaking annoying. They can take out several towers as they have a higher chance of accuracy and in a naval battle their ships have a higher chance of scoring hits on you than you on them.

The problem isn't accuracy, it's ammunition. You run out before you've had time to do anything. They kill so few enemies in land battles that they're practically worthless.

[nameless]

The problem isn't accuracy, it's ammunition. You run out before you've had time to do anything. They kill so few enemies in land battles that they're practically worthless.

Oh ho ho ho not when it's in the hands of the AI they become guiding missiles that the ammunition isn't an issue because they can score hits 100% of the time.

[89JeepYJ]

The OP is wrong.

Artillery units in general have horrible accuracy that in siege battles you can maybe take out 1 - 2 walls and 1-2 towers and that's it. With Ship artillery you need enough on the field to compensate for the horrible accuracy it's not even funny.

AI Artillery units on the OTHER HAND are unrealistically accurate that it's freaking annoying. They can take out several towers as they have a higher chance of accuracy and in a naval battle their ships have a higher chance of scoring hits on you than you on them.

Okay, my bad, I was referring to the AI, not player controlled. I should've been a little more specific. The AI artillery is unrealistically accurate. I sent three ships towards one artillery ship because I knew at least one of them would get hit. Now, I've been trying the best possible way to flank them instead.

[Humble Warrior]

Don't get me wrong, I think this game is awesome, but it seems like the artillery ships are more accurate than they should be. Maybe that's just my opinion. But it seems like it's almost guaranteed that each shot will hit one of your ships, even from a far distance. Maybe it's just a way to balance naval warfare in the game, I don't know.

All artillery in TW is unrealistically accurate. Good luck getting CA to fix it.

[RexJayden]

I would like them to be "toned down" a bit but have the ability to reload at least once.

[Slaists]

Don't get me wrong, I think this game is awesome, but it seems like the artillery ships are more accurate than they should be. Maybe that's just my opinion. But it seems like it's almost guaranteed that each shot will hit one of your ships, even from a far distance. Maybe it's just a way to balance naval warfare in the game, I don't know.

You're mixing up two things: AI ship accuracy and YOUR ship accuracy.

AI artillery ships indeed can score almost every hit (especially on harder difficulties). Your own ships: much less so (unless you do manual targeting in first person).

On legendary, if I send 4 artillery ships against 1 AI's artillery ship without manual targeting I'd get 2-3 of mine sunk until the AI ship goes down. Even with manual targeting I'd lose at lest 1 since the AI would always get that first shot in and they can reload faster too.

[Ataegina]

kinda........... can be good and can be bad.........

[RexJayden]

Yeah, my ships miss alot but the AI...they are fleet killers!

[89JeepYJ]

Yeah, my ships miss alot but the AI...they are fleet killers!

I should've been more specific, my bad. Yes, my artillery ships have accuracy like storm troopers. AI artillery seems to make a hit every shot. That's why I send 2-3 ships towards one artillery ship. Because one of those ships will go down, regardless.

[geala]

This is a little strange cause normally AI and player projectiles are the same. I did not play any naval battle yet and did not look in the according tables but perhaps some modder could answer why AI ship artillery is more accurate than player's. In land battles it is not.

[Slaists]

This is a little strange cause normally AI and player projectiles are the same. I did not play any naval battle yet and did not look in the according tables but perhaps some modder could answer why AI ship artillery is more accurate than player's. In land battles it is not.

Projectiles are the same, but not the reload speed and accuracy.

Try dueling with two archer units of the same faction, same quality on legendary. The AI unit will shoot you to shreds.