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    Default Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    Azal Amin, candidate in Dudley North for the Conservative Party, brokered a deal with EDL over the course of meetings and telephone conversations recorded by (gasp!) The Mail on Sunday.

    Amin, would "persuade" EDL to call of a march, hire a couple of lads for canvasing on his behalf for the paltry sum of 250 per head, per week, in exchange for his unshakable support towards EDL after being elected.

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    “I’ll put it to you bluntly. I need two white working class lads to go round those areas to say to people, ‘You support the army, if you support the troops then vote for this guy’. That’s what I need.”


    Unfortunately for him the EDL members filmed, recorded and then leaked the story, which hints at the fact that there is a limit to the extent EDL would go, especially if the man they're talking with is named Azal Amin, while the tories have reached no such limit especially since the people they are talking to are called EDL.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...fess-up-go-now

    Tories made statements containing words such as "fall" and "sword", while Farage used terms as "feet" and "ground".

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    A senior Tory source said: “What’s amazing is he hasn’t fallen on his sword already.”
    Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, said he was appalled by the allegations. Asked on the Marr show what he would think were one of his candidates recorded trying to broker a deal with the EDL, he said: “I would be absolutely mortified and their feet wouldn’t touch the ground.”


    Labour is astonished.

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    Gloria De Piero, the shadow women’s minister, said it was astonishing that a Tory candidate could seek to negotiate with an organisation that stirs up divisions. “It is astonishing,” she told Marr. “They intimidate people, they frighten people.”
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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    lolz. the guy has legged it to Dubai. fair play to him, he made a go of it. would have made a great Tory politician.




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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    lolz. the guy has legged it to Dubai.
    Actually he didn't:

    Politics requires an amount of bravery and using my experience as a strategist in Afghanistan, negotiating between pro-Taliban militias and the US military, I decided to use the same tactics to improve community relations here in my own country between the EDL and Muslim communities.
    http://www.afzalamin.com/news/afzal-...ds-allegations

    Excellent analogy and cue drone strikes at Dudley North.

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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garbarsardar View Post
    Excellent analogy and cue drone strikes at Dudley North.
    I'm hearing Dudley North has already been completely leveled. Experts put the damage at £35.
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    Under the patronage of Nihil. So there.

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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    If there wasn't so much negative propaganda about EDL, this wouldn't even be in the news.

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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    If there wasn't so much negative propaganda about EDL, this wouldn't even be in the news.
    Propaganda? Several are actually criminals, including their former leader.


    There is only a few hundred votes in it ias far as margins are concerned n Dudley North. If it is implied that he needs drunk racist yobs to assist him in his campaign, it doesn't look good for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Propaganda? Several are actually criminals, including their former leader.


    THere is only a few hundred votes in it ias far as margins are concerned n Dudley North. If it is implied that he needs drunk racist yobs to assist him in his campaign, it doesn't look good for him.
    Unless something major happens between now and may i think the tories can kiss this constituency goodbye.

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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    Messy. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

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    disgusting but electioneering is hardly unprecedented, there is all sorts of activities that go on from packing out question time to electoral fraud. This one went further and for gods sake the man got caught, that last one is really a rookie mistake. Sure other UK politicians won't make that mistake.

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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    The stupid part:

    “There is no way I would have the confidence to propose such a manoeuvre to the EDL leadership. He [Tommy Robinson] is the one that proposed absolutely that we would do this march and then we would negotiate our way out of it. When he first came to me he presented himself in tears. I didn’t realise this was the start of a year-long sting operation. That is really what I have been subject to here.”

    Tommy Robinson used my mouth to speak words.


    The scary part:

    “[...] and I want to assure the party that I am a loyal party member and a party supporter. [...]”

    I am like you therefore you are like me.


    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ting-operation

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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    So, err... Labour is now using the EDL to bust the Tories?
    Err...No.Where did you get that from?
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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    So, err... Labour is now using the EDL to bust the Tories?
    The Mail on Sunday is a right wing pamphlet, Afzal Amin is (was) a Tory candidate and the EDL is a right wing grassroots troupe (politely).

    The mail may be using the story to push UKIP; it is a more likely scenario. However it was Afzal Amin who displayed an explosive mix of naivety, opportunism and political unscrupulousness and no one "plotted" that.

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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garbarsardar View Post
    The Mail on Sunday is a right wing pamphlet, Afzal Amin is (was) a Tory candidate and the EDL is a right wing grassroots troupe (politely).

    The mail may be using the story to push UKIP; it is a more likely scenario. However it was Afzal Amin who displayed an explosive mix of naivety, opportunism and political unscrupulousness and no one "plotted" that.
    Right wingers using fascists as their henchmen...no surprise here
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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    Quote Originally Posted by neoptolemos View Post
    Right wingers using fascists as their henchmen...no surprise here
    Absolutely no surprise at all seeing this as the face of extreme right wing collusion?
    Last edited by Adar; March 26, 2015 at 06:38 AM.

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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Adar View Post
    Absolutely no surprise at all seeing this as the extreme right wing collusion?
    Is that your opinion or your question?
    Last edited by neoptolemos; March 26, 2015 at 12:17 PM.
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    Default Re: Astonishing. Tory candidate colludes with EDL. Did I say "astonishing"?

    That's fair. You always get a candidate or two acting like they're a New York City boss. It's amazing, but there it is.

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