[Request] Remove/Reduce Rivalry for Hordes

[hiner]

Surprised nobody has made a mod specifically for this, but if someone could either remove or at least reduce the amount of rivalry that affects hordes in the same province I'd be much appreciative.

[hiner]

Surprised nobody has made a mod specifically for this, but if someone could either remove or at least reduce the amount of rivalry that affects hordes in the same province I'd be much appreciative.

*region

[RockMic]

I also believe that it is a good idea.

[SharpEyed]

so nobody to do this? or if i can know where this effect is to change myself

[hiner]

So far this is the closest thing we may get.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...le-Horde-Buffs

[Murderin]

This should work. I could not for the life of me find the trigger for the negative integrity effect so I just deleted the whole damn thing.

Note that this mod changes 2 commonly modded tables, so compatibility will be an issue. Mostly with large overhauls and anything that changes the effects of the various negative and positive bonuses in the game.

Let me know if you have any problems, I haven't done any testing beyond checking if the effects are gone.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ha...6/Rivalry.pack

[SharpEyed]

This should work. I could not for the life of me find the trigger for the negative integrity effect so I just deleted the whole damn thing.

Note that this mod changes 2 commonly modded tables, so compatibility will be an issue. Mostly with large overhauls and anything that changes the effects of the various negative and positive bonuses in the game.

Let me know if you have any problems, I haven't done any testing beyond checking if the effects are gone.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ha...6/Rivalry.pack

Hmm thx but I'm using Radious so it changes a lot of things, dont wanna mess up

If i can find those dam entries :/

[Murderin]

Hmm thx but I'm using Radious so it changes a lot of things, dont wanna mess up

If i can find those dam entries :/

The entries I removed are in the effect_bundles_to_effects_junctions and the effects_table

There are two lines you need to remove from the radious pack effect_bundles_to_effects_junctions, they are line 634 and 635

att_food_bundle_horde_infighting	att_effect_military_force_food_consumption_modifier_horde_infighting_faction	force_to_force_own	0	start_turn_completed
att_food_bundle_horde_infighting	att_effect_military_force_gdp_modifier_horde_infighting_faction	force_to_force_own	0	start_turn_completed

He does not use the effects table in his mod, so you would have to add the effects_table to it or just use my mod and remove the effect_bundles_to_effects_junctions table from my mod. The lines I removed in effects_tables are 802 to 805 and then 807

att_effect_military_force_food_consumption_modifier_horde_infighting	food_negative.png	100	food_negative.png
att_effect_military_force_food_consumption_modifier_horde_infighting_faction	food_negative.png	100	food_negative.png
att_effect_military_force_gdp_modifier_horde_infighting	wealth_negative.png	100	wealth_negative.png
att_effect_military_force_gdp_modifier_horde_infighting_faction	wealth_negative.png	100	wealth_negative.png
att_effect_military_force_morale_modifier_horde_infighting	morale_positive.png	100	morale_negative.png

Sorry about all the spaces, table entries don't copy very well.

[SharpEyed]

The entries I removed are in the effect_bundles_to_effects_junctions and the effects_table

There are two lines you need to remove from the radious pack effect_bundles_to_effects_junctions, they are line 634 and 635

Yea i just was gonna download ur mod to see what or where u did ur changes and u showed them already
thx Sir

Btw for me integrity effect didnt been so big problem as wars continued, and Generals levelled up to have some Integrity bonusses etc, but i will try to find that too

well im not a modder but PFM really helps to do some little -but important- tweaks for everyone, btw i will try to be looking into Horde growth/Building-new Horde population costs (Radious already changed them but s/o did similar sub-mod for that before in a different way), i might mix them -if i can- together

edit: there is no need for mix
and there is another standalone mod for it as well, so yeah

[Murderin]

Let me know if you need any help figuring it out

[SharpEyed]

my aim is not to remove the whole rivalry, but to balance it, so im trying to figure what "0" value means there 1st of all

and for 2nd table u written, only 2 of them exists in Radious (with "0" value once again!), did u add rest 3?
ah nope u didnt, they are in other tables that Radious didnt bring any of them

[Murderin]

That is why I removed them, I could find no value to edit to reduce the effects. It gets some sort of multiplier from somewhere else based on the amount of rivalry, but I don't have any idea where that is. You could try changing the 0 to a negative number and see what happens.

[SharpEyed]

That is why I removed them, I could find no value to edit to reduce the effects. It gets some sort of multiplier from somewhere else based on the amount of rivalry, but I don't have any idea where that is. You could try changing the 0 to a negative number and see what happens.

yea and there are 100s also, well i will try whats gonna happen

edit: i did some tests but neither mod didnt work somehow, or those values are not enough to change things..
i tried 50 75 etc to see if they are %, but nothing changed

for others, i mean zeros, -0.2 or +0.1 sth, nope :/

And well my pc not so good with tests, long loading is annoying.

[Murderin]

Leave the values in the effects_table alone, they do not control anything. The only values you can modify are in the effect_bundles_to_effects_junctions, which control the penalty to food and income from rivalry.

I don't think the amount can be changed without finding the multipliers that cause the rivalry effect to increase. They may be hardcoded.

[SharpEyed]

Leave the values in the effects_table alone, they do not control anything. The only values you can modify are in the effect_bundles_to_effects_junctions, which control the penalty to food and income from rivalry.

I don't think the amount can be changed without finding the multipliers that cause the rivalry effect to increase. They may be hardcoded.

Ow wait......
Dam there are other places that include valuables about these...
Check the campaign_variables i.e

Did u try the game after deleting those values btw?
Does it work?

[Murderin]

Yes my mod works fine. I loaded it up and checked my hun campaign to be sure the rivalry effects were gone.

[SharpEyed]

Yes my mod works fine. I loaded it up and checked my hun campaign to be sure the rivalry effects were gone.

i see, well i wish pfm search would work.. then would be easier maybe..