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    Default Berlusconi's aquital on sex scandal confirmed!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31827716
    Italy's highest court has confirmed former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's acquittal on the sex scandal with Ruby!

    What is most important there is also this: "The verdict leaves Berlusconi free to rally his Forza Italia party as it struggles to maintain a leading role in Italian politics, analysts say."

    MWAHAHAHAHA!

    Silvio has 9 lives. Those that wish to see him gone to irrelevancy from Politics are again in for a disappointment.


    I believe the verdict to uphold the acquittal was expected. After winning an appeal it's not easy for courts to say "no, back to court".
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    I wonder where he obtained legal advice?

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    Default Re: Berlusconi's aquital on sex scandal confirmed!

    I don't hate Silvio or anything (his actions don't affect my life since I'm not living in Italy), but by the gods he is a goofball. Do impressionable Italians vote for him and his FORZA party because they just think he's some sort of strong leader, or something? He's over the age of 70, isn't he? I'm surprised he still can't keep it in his pants.

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    He makes teflon look sticky.

    Like R_V above I don't care but at least Italian politics is a fun show to watch. And he makes it just that much more fun.
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    So, will any of those criminal underage nymphomans now be charged for seducing and traumatizing this poor old man?
    Justice must be done, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraut View Post
    So, will any of those criminal underage nymphomans female now be charged for seducing and traumatizing this poor old man?
    Justice must be done, you know.
    Fixed.


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    No surprise at all. Money talks BS walks.

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    So She was a Minor, that he paid to have sex with. But he allegedly didnt knew she was a minor....
    And that is how he was aquited as i far i uderstand....
    We realy need to love Italian Justice.
    Portuguese Justice is also very similar in a lot of points. This kind of thing feel very similar.
    You just tell them you didnt knew anything, and everything will be fine. ( even if you did comit a crime anyways)
    It isnt even shaggy "wasnt me" level... it is on the i "didnt knew" level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven View Post
    Portuguese Justice is also very similar in a lot of points. This kind of thing feel very similar.
    I thought the age of consent in Portugal is 14? I mean that is 9th grade/junior high schooler...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    I thought the age of consent in Portugal is 14? I mean that is 9th grade/junior high schooler...
    Not with adults involved... or much less if we are talking about prostituition...
    Age of consent doesnt mean what you are implying. ( otherwise you will have 14 years old doing porn...)

    Lets say a 14 year old starts exploring her/his sexuality with another 14 or 15 year old ( it is often the case specialy with girls). It means that isnt considered a crime.

    Strictly speaking full age of consent for all kinds of sexual activity is actually eighteen.

    Sex for payment involving those under eighteen years old is illegal, for example, as are sexual relationships between persons under eighteen and those who are entrusted with their care or education.
    Sixteen is another relevant age. The legalese is a bit hard to work through, but what it boils down to, as far as I understand, is this:

    Fourteen- and fifteen-year-olds can consent to sexual activities, but if these involve a full adult (over twenty-one), the standard assumption is that the adult is exploiting the minor's lack of maturity (which is illegal. Whether this is the case is decided on a case-by-case basis).

    Sixteen - and seventeen-year-olds can consent to sexual relations, with the exception of prostitution, porn and other sexual activities for financial gain.

    If there is reason to believe the minor's capacity for informed consent is lacking, or an exploitative relationship is in place, these can still be deemed illegal on a case-by-case basis.

    Those over eighteen are pretty much free to do what they like.

    Im not sure how it is in Italy. But i think this is the case here in Portugal, as well in Germany.
    Only Germany actualy made Prostituition legal after 18. And has as far i understand a thriving industry there on the account of tourism.


    Because Silvio is many bad things, but paidophile is not among them.
    That isnt the issue.... having sex with a 17 year old doesnt make one a pedophile.
    The issue is paying a 17 year old for sex wich is still a crime.

    Right assuming he is telling the truth ( wich i doubt it, he is a politician and a sports manager of a football club after all) ... I could give him some break, regardless is still a crime.
    To be aquitable is ridiculous. I bet the Justice system if it was someone else in his position, wouldnt be so forgiven.
    To be honest that is my main problem with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven View Post
    Not with adults involved... or much less if we are talking about prostituition...
    Age of consent doesnt mean what you are implying.
    Lets say a 14 year old starts exploring her/his sexuality with another 14 or 15 year old ( it is often the case specialy with girls). It means that isnt considered a crime.
    Its like Germany, the difference lies in the philosophy: in Germany, it is considered natural that 14-year-olds want to explore their sexuality, so Germany doesn't start by thinking of it as a crime. It only becomes a crime when adults or cameras are involved, or if there is an abusive cause etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    I thought the age of consent in Portugal is 14? I mean that is 9th grade/junior high schooler...

    Even in my highschool, that we had super-tramps, the very vast majority of girls were virgins at 14. I'm talking 90%+ here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post

    Even in my highschool, that we had super-tramps, the very vast majority of girls were virgins at 14. I'm talking 90%+ here.
    Majority or minority it is irrelevant. There were lose chics were they not?
    A lot of girls start young at 14,5 15. Boys usualy star a bit later. It has to do with maturity of either the bodies and mind.

    It doesnt mean it is all girls.. of course it isnt. Im saying it isnt that uncomon.

    Btw wiki
    Mediterranean countries

    In some countries, such as Italy and Spain, the low rate of adolescent pregnancy (6 births per 1,000 women aged 15–19 in 2002 in both countries)[5] may be attributed to traditional values[citation needed] and social stigmatization.[citation needed] These two countries also have low abortion rates (lower than Sweden and the other Nordic countries)[9] and their teenage pregnancy rates are among the lowest in Europe. Portugal, however, has a relatively high percentage of teenage pregnancy (17 births per 1,000 women aged 15–19 in 2002
    I can tell you when i was 14 i knew some Girls in my school that had 20 and 19 years old boyfriends and were sexual active. It was not uncomon. I mean in my country not long ago, people could marry at 16 if im not mistaken.

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    I am waiting the motivations of the sentence.The appeal court that first acquitted him, already established all the newspapers headlines you read a few years ago, were actually all true!

    Berlusconi is a whore monger, idiotic and pathethic man, who slept at international meetings because he was tired after girls so young that could have been his granddaughters.And to think he always denied , saying he never paid a woman.He thinks himself as a great womanizer, tombeur de femme!

    His own defence lawyer already admited the prostitution.

    Berlusconi is actually enraged about all this, already he considers the sentence about tax fraud a disgraceful badge of shame.

    I don't even think prostitution clients have anything to be ashamed about, but the position Silvio was in and how he did it!


    And what about patriotism? National honour? JFK Marilyn! Hollande, not attractive man, Gayet!

    Silvio? Not even classy, but trashy (fake boobs ect) hookers!
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    I am sure he didn't know she was underage. He did paid her for sex, but I doubt he checked her age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    I am sure he didn't know she was underage. He did paid her for sex, but I doubt he checked her age.
    He didnt cared if she was either. Or he would know.

    That isnt the point anyway.

    The point is, a crime was still comited regardless, how can this to be easly put aside is behond me.

    To be even aquited... He might be less guilty, but still guilty.

    Btw how are you sure he didnt knew she was underage? Were you there?

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    Because Silvio is many bad things, but paidophile is not among them.
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    Except when he has sex with underage girls. Because that's actually what that word means.
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    Hum i edited in order to explain myself a bit better

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    The funniest part of the whole thing for me...

    "Last week Berlusconi completed a community service sentence for tax fraud, at a care home."

    ....for tax fraud?

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