Revised Diplomatic Effects - Imperium and Cultural Effects

[Augustusng]

Update: Fixed the issue with political power diplomatic effects. Created a few new effects (really just re-added effects that were in Rome 2, but not Attila) that work properly with "Hates Rival Empires" and other traits. I'm also going to add this to the governor/court chain in my building overhaul mod in a few minutes.

EDIT: Hmm. You know, the positive effects might not actually be working. I'm looking into it.

[Augustusng]

Okay, fixed again. Hopefully this time I actually fixed it. Forgot to add in a table that actually defined what my new effect bonuses are.

[Grizwald714]

is their anyway you could make the Ai more likely to accept peace. I just think its strange that a one city nation will not sign a peace when I destroy all their armies including their only cities garrison because it sallied out to join another battle.

[Augustusng]

Maybe, but I'm not sure exactly which tables govern that. I assume one of the CAI tables.

[Yerevan]

Very simple, but it means that the personality and political power of leaders will have a bigger impact on diplomatic relations, while imperium level has a smaller one. I might add more to this mod and flesh it out once I know this basic part is working as it should.

Does it mean that the attitude of a faction towards yours wil be affected by their leaders' personality ? I dreamed of something like that !

[Shinay]

Do i need to restart my campaign for this mod to work? Thanks in advance.

[Augustusng]

Does it mean that the attitude of a faction towards yours wil be affected by their leaders' personality ? I dreamed of something like that !

Yes. To be fair though, this is already the case in vanilla, but my mod increases the effect. You'll notice when an allied king dies and is replaced by his son who hates you.

Do i need to restart my campaign for this mod to work? Thanks in advance.

No.

[gregnaar]

Is there a way to slow down imperium "growth"? Or do we even know how is it working? In Rome 2 it was based on provinces. Now research is fueling it if i am not mistaken, or is there something else?

[SharpEyed]

Is there a way to slow down imperium "growth"? Or do we even know how is it working? In Rome 2 it was based on provinces. Now research is fueling it if i am not mistaken, or is there something else?

Thats exactly what im looking for, slowing down.

I know it is really strange. I used a ton of mods in R2 and something like this never happend.
Yes it was mitch's mod manager. Firstly I just copied your pack file into data folder. But in game nothing changed. So I downloaded mod manager, launched mod via it, and it worked. But then I deleted mod, and now the game always crashes when launching. But when I put your mod back, everything works. I absolutely dont understand . I even deleted data.pack and downloaded new one, after integrity check, but didt help. I guess the only option for me is reinstall.

EDIT: I found a solution without reinstalling game. I just opened mod manager, clicked on Tool - Revert to vanilla and the game now works again even withou your mod. Very very weird

i think u got ur answer here : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-Manager/page2 by Mitch himself, and that helped me a lot too, wasnt be able to get my mods work..

So i just shared here for the ones may get problems..

[Augustusng]

Yes, it's mostly research-based. Provinces and things still count, but much less. I'd like to change that, but I don't know how/if it can be changed. There are some imperium tables, but I'm not totally sure what all the values do.

[Butan]

You know, that mod works so well I think a mod where every leaders traits effects are doubled, and every generic ones halved, would be kind of cool.
They really built a good/solid diplomacy base in Attila (so many tables to work on), always wanted the leaders to affect their diplomacy a lot, like in old times where they were all kind of despots in that matter.

[Augustusng]

Yeah, but I'm not sure I want to just double all of them. The changes I've already made have a big effect, and I'm not really sure I want to increase something like the "diplomat" trait further, which I think makes an AI leader less likely to accept deals that would anger his allies. That's a cool mechanic, sure, but at the moment it's already somewhat hard to get deals with leaders that have certain traits. I'll have to look into exactly what each of the traits do, as it's not immediately obvious for all of them.

Also CA is reducing the likelihood of faction leaders having that "hates rival empires" trait in the next patch, which is great. My last Jutes campaign, I was only able to trade with the Romans, since most other factions hated me!

On the other hand, I got really lucky in a Sassanid campaign, which I played up to a minor victory... fighting exactly one battle the whole campaign (I got bored of turtling ). Because the imperium penalties were decreased, and there weren't too many factions that hated rival empires, I made most of the map my puppet states. Was a "diplomatic victory," I guess. Also that Sassanid bonus to tribute wealth from puppet states is pretty ridiculous. I was getting some 60k in tribute each turn, just from the Romans.

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[Butan]

If CA nicely balanced each traits with every other, a blanket mod could maybe work and stay balanced, notwithstanding random trait picking ofc. Probably would need some tweaks... and then its much longer to find the good balance! I'll stay tuned on that thread

[Shinay]

Hi,has this mod been updated for the new patch (Tin isle mercs)?Or it does not need to ?

[Augustusng]

I'm working on an update right now, but it should still work with the new patch anyway if you can't wait. Mainly, the update will just rebalance the Great Power penalties and political power bonuses to fit with CA's changes (you'll have an even smaller penalty than before).

[Augustusng]

And it's updated. Nothing major, just a rebalance of the Great Power effects.

[Shinay]

Hello,im using your mod i found a bug:
Im playing as the Alans and i've been killing the ERE left and right and when i open the diplomacy menu,this happens:
Can you fix that?Its kinda odd haha!

[Augustusng]

Hello,im using your mod i found a bug:
Im playing as the Alans and i've been killing the ERE left and right and when i open the diplomacy menu,this happens:
Can you fix that?Its kinda odd haha!

That reminds me, I ran into something similar in one of my campaigns (yes, this is that Sassanid campaign where I fought only one battle ).

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Now I thought at first that this was due to my mod, but I disabled it and this still occurred - I think it's some way that the AI faction leader traits interact with each other (the Alamanni leader has the "rebellious" trait, so I think he might have a bonus to relations with my satrapies because of it. The weird relations bonuses were gone entirely after he died a few turns later). But I'm not really sure what could be causing your issue. Does it persist after disabling this mod?

[Shinay]

That reminds me, I ran into something similar in one of my campaigns (yes, this is that Sassanid campaign where I fought only one battle ).

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Now I thought at first that this was due to my mod, but I disabled it and this still occurred - I think it's some way that the AI faction leader traits interact with each other (the Alamanni leader has the "rebellious" trait, so I think he might have a bonus to relations with my satrapies because of it. The weird relations bonuses were gone entirely after he died a few turns later). But I'm not really sure what could be causing your issue. Does it persist after disabling this mod?

It does persist.Well,thats odd.

[PumpkinBread]

It does persist.Well,thats odd.

Is it 'baked' into the save game perhaps?