How to add new factions from scratch - tutorial and testing

[ABH2]

I made this post in the Rome 2 tutorial section, but I have not tested or tried it yet in Attila. As it is untested, I did not want to add it to the resources forum quite yet.

So, I've finally figured out what my missing ingredient was to adding new factions to the DB (it's always a dumb little mistake)

I would recommend doing it through the Assembly Kit with its automatically generated ID numbers. You need to modify or add your faction to the:
1. factions_table
2. faction_banners_table
3. faction_rebellion_units_junctions_table
4. faction_to_mercenary_set_junctions table
5. faction_uniform_colours_table
6. commander_unit_permissions_table

I would recommend copying and pasting the info related to units based on a faction with the same military group type (column in the factions_table). So, if you made a faction that had the roman military_group, just copy Rome's info for the commander_unit_permissions and faction_rebellion_units_junctions (Rome doesn't have mercenary sets, but the same logic applies, though I don't think it's as rigid as the others). This has gotten my new factions working, but you also want to match the faction up to a group in the faction_to_faction_group_table, and it should be possible to create civil war factions for fully playable minors now by linking a new faction to the playable faction in the faction_civil_wars_setup_table (you would also need to create the political parties.

Then add your faction into the start_pos as normal, and follow the rest of this tutorial to tweak your faction in other ways (icons, effect bundles etc.):
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ly-Kit-and-PFM

I will try to repeat the process in Attila, but I would imagine it will be very similar.

Hope this is spurs on some creative modders and overhauls to try new things.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...8#post14383088

Until the Assembly Kit is released, I'm not even going to bother testing as its too much of a pain to add them into the startpos, but someone could test the creation of a new rebel faction. This would require checking the box in the factions_table, and said faction also wouldn't need some of the other tables above (just check if rebels appear). I think the ID number would create some issues, though, to be honest. The game won't just read anything and some ID numbers do have to follow an order or the game can crash.

[FrozenmenSS]

so tutorrial soon? the Assembly kit is already out for maybe 2 mouths?

[Mercsenary]

so tutorrial soon? the Assembly kit is already out for maybe 2 mouths?

It's essentially the same process.

Only thing that isnt working for me is the assigning of political parties to the factions political party. ie. britannia characters, when assigned a political part aka att_political_britannia_ruler

Startpos refuses to create a startpos. and then I'm stuck bashing my head against the wall in order to try to find out why.

[lulu12]

It's essentially the same process.

Only thing that isnt working for me is the assigning of political parties to the factions political party. ie. britannia characters, when assigned a political part aka att_political_britannia_ruler

Startpos refuses to create a startpos. and then I'm stuck bashing my head against the wall in order to try to find out why.

Having the same problem.

Micheal, the author of A&S mod used an ESF editor to make his minor factions playable.

I was talking with him and we might've found something that will work.

Create/enable your faction like normal along with political parties but don't assign your faction leader to a political party in startpos_characters, only enable progenitor.

Then export and create a packfile and from there use an esf editor.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...minor-factions

Haven't tested it our yet because it's 4:30am here but through this method you'd avoid the endless splash screen.

[Mercsenary]

Having the same problem.

Micheal, the author of A&S mod used an ESF editor to make his minor factions playable.

I was talking with him and we might've found something that will work.

Create/enable your faction like normal along with political parties but don't assign your faction leader to a political party in startpos_characters, only enable progenitor.

Then export and create a packfile and from there use an esf editor.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...minor-factions

Haven't tested it our yet because it's 4:30am here but through this method you'd avoid the endless splash screen.

Damn. I was hoping for something more elegant.

[FrozenmenSS]

I still got the problem creating the New Faction.

Can somebody do a Example when creating a New factions from scratch - to show how to do it step by step(filling each table and so on) ??
With each tables and with Pics.
When doing it I just cant find my mistakes..... (lame me)

Personaly My mistakes arent in the mentioned Tables below thats for sure:
start_pos_regions
start_pos_settlements
starting_positions

The help will be Appreciated a lot.

BTW Im Working on an Huge mod with 20-25 new Custom Factions(some of them will be also playable) for the Vannila Attila Campaign and almost 160 new custom units ,created by Sebidee
And the planned starting Dates for the mod are:
- 395ad
- 410ad
- 450ad
- 475ad
- 533ad
- 572ad

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

I still got the problem creating the New Faction.

Can somebody do a Example when creating a New factions from scratch - to show how to do it step by step(filling each table and so on) ??
With each tables and with Pics.
When doing it I just cant find my mistakes..... (lame me)

Personaly My mistakes arent in the mentioned Tables below thats for sure:
start_pos_regions
start_pos_settlements
starting_positions

The help will be Appreciated a lot.

BTW Im Working on an Huge mod with 20-25 new Custom Factions(some of them will be also playable) for the Vannila Attila Campaign and almost 160 new custom units ,created by Sebidee
And the planned starting Dates for the mod are:
- 395ad
- 410ad
- 450ad
- 475ad
- 533ad
- 572ad

is it when you are trying to create a esf file?