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    Default Authentic Faction Names

    This is a look at faction names in Attila. I've gone through and changed most of them to something that seems appropriate, but I have little knowledge of some factions (various Germanic tribes), so I'm not sure what might be more accurate names for them, if anything. I'm willing to change almost any of these names if someone has a suggestion to make them better (but not the Romans, my Latin is correct ).

    And of course, for many factions, the Romans are the best/only sources we have, so I've put them in Latin - for example: Antae, Eblani, etc. If you know a better name for any of those in Latin, please let me know, and I can change it.

    I'm still debating some of the choices I've made, so try and convince me if you have a better name. I should also note that I haven't changed the names of most of the rebel or separatist factions for now (in the endonym version. They're all changed in the Latin version), but I might in the future.

    I've also created a version with all the faction names in Latin, for when you're playing as the Romans.

    Recent changes to names are in bold below. Let me know if I've missed anything or if you have a better name for any faction or group. Thanks!

    Full List of Faction Group Names:
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    Barbarian Kingdoms - Regna Barbarorum

    Great Migrators - Migratores Magni (Let me know for this, the Eastern Empires, the Nomads, and the barbarians if you can think of something better than just putting it in Latin. I'd personally like to move the Alani into the Nomadic group, the Vandals into the Barbarian one, and redo all the faction group traits... I've done this in Europa Perdita if you're interested)

    Nomadic Tribes - Nomades

    Roman Empire - Imperium Romanum

    Eastern Empires - Regna Orientalia (Since this is in Latin, I've gone with "kingdoms" instead of "empires," as I don't think the Romans ever used the word "imperium" talking about anyone except themselves)

    Norsemen - Norrœnir Menn

    Celts - Celti

    Desert Kingdoms - Arabes et Africani (Let me know if you can think of something better. I didn't like "Regna Erema," which is a direct translation of "Desert Kingdoms" into Latin. Maybe something in Arabic, but then Axum and Garamantia wouldn't be represented)

    Slavs - Slovene

    Full List of Faction Name Changes (only changed ones are listed. Let me know if you have an idea what to do with any that I haven't changed here):
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    Abasgia - Abxazeti

    Aegyptus – Diocesis Aegypti

    Africa – Diocesis Africae

    Afrighids – Xvarazm

    Alamans - Alumannoz

    Alans - Alanna

    Angles - Angel-þeod

    Anteans – Antae

    Aria - Haraiva

    Armenia – Hayasdan

    Asia – Diocesis Asiana

    Atropatene – Atropatkan

    Bastarnians - Bastarnoz

    Western Roman Empire - Imperium Romanum Pars Occidentis

    Britain - Diocesis Britanniarum

    Budinians - Budini

    Burgundians – Burgundar

    Dacia – Diocesis Daciae

    Danes – Daniz

    Eastern Roman Empire - Imperium Romanum Pars Orientis

    Ebdanians - Iweriu (proto-Goidelic meaning "Irish")

    Franks - Frankoz

    Gaetulians - Gaetuli

    Gaul – Diocesis Galliarum

    Garamantians - Garamantes

    Geats – Gautoz

    Gepids - Gepidae

    Ghassanids - Ghassasina

    Greuthingians (sic) – Greuthungi

    Hispania – Diocesis Hispaniae

    Himyar – Mamlakat Himyar (Gone for now, as the Himyar entry messes with save game names. I'll add it back if I can fix it, but I have no idea what's causing the issue, so it's back to the vanilla name for now)

    Huns – Huna

    Illyria – Diocesis Pannoniarum

    Italia – Diocesis Italiae

    Judea – Iudea

    Jutes -Eutoz

    Lakhmids - Bani Lakhm

    Langobards - Langabardoz

    Lazica - Lazika-Egrisi

    Lugians – Leugoz

    Macedonia – Diocesis Macedoniae

    Magyars - On-Oğur

    Marcomans - Markamannoz

    Maurians - Mauri

    Oriens - Diocesis Orientis

    Ostrogoths – Austragutþiuda

    Parthia – Parthava

    Persia - Parsa

    Picts – Pritani

    Pontus – Diocesis Pontica

    Quadians - Kwadoz

    Roxolanians - Rauxsa-alanna

    Rugians – Rygir

    Sabirs – Sabir Huna

    Sassanid Empire - Eranshahr

    Saxons – Seaxe

    Sclavenians – Sclaveni

    Septimania – Diocesis Septem Provinciarum

    Domain of Soissons – Dominium Suessionum

    Suebians - Sweboz

    Tanukhids - Tanukh

    Thuringians - Þunaringoz

    Vandals - Wendiloz

    Varinians - Warnawi

    Venedians - Venedi

    Visigoths - Weisagutþiuda

    Caledonians - Caledones (yes, this one is listed here at the end, as the faction key is Votadini. I might just make them the Votadini, but I don't think Caledones is any less accurate)

    White Huns - Sveta Huna (This is the Sanskrit term for them, picked because it fits with my other Hunnic names. But there are a dozen other possible names for the White Huns)

    List of Changes to Separatist Faction Names - These are changed to reflect some of other notable tribes or rival groups within the factions of the time, to make it a little more interesting than just "separatists." Roman separatist factions are still in Latin of course, as before. Those are in the Latin version too.
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    Aethiopian Separatists - Blemmyes

    African Separatists - Imazighen (same caveat as for this name below for the TLR Berbers)

    Alamannic Separatists - Juthungi

    Alanic Separatists - Aorsi

    Arabian Separatists - Qahtani

    Aksumite Separatists - Da'amat

    Caucasian Separatists - Kavkasiebi

    Eastern Roman Separatists - Defectores Romani Orientales

    Eastern Roman Separatists (NPC - I think these are the... emergent separatists) - Defectores Provinciarum Orientum

    Frankish Separatists - Ripuarii

    Garamantian Separatists - Tidamensi

    Geat Separatists - Sweoniz

    Eastern Germanic Separatists - Irminonoz

    Northern Germanic Separatists - Ingaevonoz

    Western Germanic Separatists - Istvaeonoz

    Himyarite Separatists - Hadramawt

    Lakhmid Separatists - Banu Nasr

    Langobard Separatists - Winniloz

    Nordic Separatists - Nurþronijoz

    Ostrogothic Separatists - Not changed yet, but I'd like to. This one isn't easy.

    Pictish Separatists - Uerteru

    Saxon Separatists - Chaucoz

    Suebian Separatists - Hermunduroz

    Tanukhid Separatists - Kindah

    Vandalic Separatists - Silingos

    Visigothic Separatists - Thervingi (yeah, this one isn't really great)

    Caledonian Separatists - Votadini (this one's going to confuse me all the time now... the Caledonians are att_faction_votadini in the files...)

    Western Roman Separatists - Defectores Romani Occidentales

    Western Roman Separatists (NPC) - Defectores Provinciarum Occidentum

    White Hun Separatists - Hara Huna

    List of Changes to Political Parties (Politics Screen):
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    Alamans - Bucinobantes

    Burgundians - Niflungar

    Danes - Skjöldungar (fixed a typo)

    Eastern Roman Empire - Gens Flavia

    Franks - Salii (not the Salian dynasty, but the Salian Franks. It's too early to put the Merovingians here, but I think this works well enough)

    Geats - Svärtingar

    Langobards - Lethingos

    Ostrogoths - Amalingos

    Sassanids - Sasani (can anyone confirm that this is the correct way to write this in Middle Persian? It's hard to find sources when searching in English)

    Saxons - Gewisse

    Vandals - Hasdingos

    Visigoths - Balthingos

    Western Roman Empire - Gens Flavia (Yep, same dynasty as ERE)

    Full List of the Last Roman Faction Names - Playable factions ("Kingdoms") are all in Latin, as most, if not all had started using Latin in at least semi-official capacity by this point.
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    Basques – Euskaldunak (This is a modern term, but I can't really find sources for Old Basque)

    Berbers – Imazighen (Also a modern term, but again ancient sources are hard to find, and I imagine the name wasn't too different)

    Bretons – Britanni

    Burgundians – Burgundar

    Roman Empire – Imperium Romanum

    Roman Expedition – Expeditio Romana

    Frankish Kingdom – Regnum Francorum

    Langobards – Langabardoz

    Moors – Mauri

    Ostrogothic Kingdom – Regnum Ostrogothorum

    Sardinians – Sardi

    Suebians – Sweboz

    Vandalic Kingdom – Regnum Vandalorum

    Visigothic Kingdom – Regnum Visigothorum

    Full List of Age of Charlemagne Faction Names
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    Kingdom of Ailech - Cóiced Ailech (Old Irish ones are subject to change if I can find a better source)

    Duchy of Alemannia - Ducatus Alemanniae (Most "duchies" are in Latin, as they're part of the Frankish kingdom generally)

    Alt Clut - Ystrad Clud

    Angria - Angrarii (I think this one is also Latin, but I can't find the Old High German for it)

    Duchy of Aquitaine - Ducatus Aquitaniae

    Kingdom of Asturias - Regnum Asturorum

    Avars - Avari

    Taifa of Badajoz - Batalyaws (I've decided not to call these factions "taifas," because it's a bit anachronistic)

    Taifa of Barcelona - Barshiluna

    Duchy of Bavaria - Ducatus Bavariae

    Duchy of Benevento - Ducatus Beneventum

    Bohemia - Beheima

    Kingdom of Brittany - Regnum Brittonum

    Duchy of Burgundy - Ducatus Burgundiae

    Kingdom of Carloman - Regnum Carlomanni

    Kingdom of Charlemagne - Regnum Caroli (No magnus here )

    Kingdom of Connachta - Cóiced Ol nEchmacht

    Emirate of Cordoba - al-Andalus

    Duchy of Croatia - Regnum Croatorum (Latin again. Even the modern Croatian sources I found say that this was the name on inscriptions and things)

    Kingdom of the Danes - Danir

    Eastphalia - Ostfalahi

    Duchy of Frisia - Freisias (this one might be anachronistic. Might be too old. I can just put it in Latin if that's the case)

    Duchy of Gascony - Ducatus Wasconiae (yeah, W. Medieval Latin isn't great, and I think that Wasconia was the name)

    Kingdom of Glywysing - Gulat Glywysing (if you think Old Irish is hard to find, Old Welsh is even worse. Found the word for "kingdom," but not much else. Most Welsh factions have modern spellings for their names)

    Emirate of Granada - Garnata (way too early to be calling them an emirate I think)

    Kingdom of Gwynedd - Gulat Guynet

    Kingdom of Kent - Cantaware Rice

    Kingdom of Leinster - Cóiced Laigin

    Kingdom of Lombardy - Regnum Langobardorum

    Kingdom of Mercia - Miercna Rice

    Kingdom of Munster - Cóiced Muman

    Nordalbingia - Didn't change this one. Again, need a source for Old High German I think.

    Kingdom of Northumbria - Norþymbra Rice

    Obodrites - Obotriti

    Duchy of Pamplona - Ducatus Pompaeli (using the Latin name for the city, though again maybe anachronistic)

    Papal States - Status Pontificius

    Picts - Cruithentúath (think this is modern Gaelic, so maybe there's a better word)

    Kingdom of Powys - Gulat Powys

    Duchy of Provence - Ducatus Provinciae

    Taifa of Sevilla - Ishbiliya

    Theme of Sicily - Thema Sikelias

    Duchy of Spoleto - Ducatus Spolitae

    Taifa of Toledo - Tulaytula

    Kingdom of Ulaid - Cóiced Ulaid

    Taifa of Valencia - Balansiyya

    Republic of Venice - Venetia (decided not to add "republic," but maybe I should)

    Kingdom of Wessex - Westseaxna Rice

    Westphalia - Westfalahi

    Wilzi - Welatabi

    Taifa of Zaragoza - Saraqusta

    List of Changes to Age of Charlemagne Political Parties
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    Carolingian Dynasty - Karlings

    Danes - Skjöldungar (fixed a typo)

    Umayyads - Banu 'Umayya

    Westphalia - Sahson

    List of Kingdoms in the Last Roman and Charlemagne
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    Kingdom of Rome - Regnum Romanum (literally "Roman Kingdom" but I think it works. Maybe I'll go check some of those Republican Roman texts about the kingdom though)

    Avar Khaganate - I have exactly zero sources for this one, so it's unchanged.

    Caliphate of Cordoba - Khilafat Qurṭuba (think this one is modern, but I don't have a good source for it anyway)

    Kingdom of England - Angelcynnes Rice

    Kingdom of the Franks - Regnum Francorum

    Holy Roman Empire - Sacrum Romanum Imperium

    Ireland - Ériu

    Kingdom of Italy - Regnum Italiae

    Kingdom of Saxony - Sahsonrihhi (this one's a bit fudged. Both Sahson and rihhi are words, but I don't know if they go together like this)

    Scotland - Alba

    Kingdom of Spain - Regnum Hispaniae

    Kingdom of the Vikings - Norðrríki

    Wales - Cymru (this one should maybe be "Cymry" but I think that refers to the people of Wales)

    And for the Latin version...

    Full List of Latin Faction Group Names
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    Barbarian Kingdoms - Regna Barbarorum

    Great Migrators - Migratores Magni

    Nomadic Tribes - Nomades

    Roman Empire - Imperium Romanum

    Eastern Empires - Regna Orientalia

    Norsemen - Normanni

    Celts - Celti

    Desert Kingdoms - Arabes et Africani (Let me know if you can think of something better. I didn't like "Regna Erema," which is a direct translation of "Desert Kingdoms" into Latin. Maybe something in Arabic, but then Axum and Garamantia wouldn't be represented)

    Slavs - Sclaveni (the same as the faction name. Romans used this term to refer to Slavs in general)

    Full List of Latin Faction Names
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    Abarshahr – Hyrcania

    Aegyptus – Diocesis Aegypti

    Africa – Diocesis Africae

    Afrighids – Chorasmia

    Alamans – Alamanni

    Angles - Anglii

    Anteans - Antae (think this is better than Antes)

    Armenia - Armenia

    Arran – Albania

    Asia – Diocesis Asiana

    Bastarnians - Bastarnae

    Western Roman Empire - Imperium Romanum Pars Occidentis

    Britain – Diocesis Britanniarum

    Budinians - Budini

    Burgundians – Burgundi

    Dacia – Diocesis Daciae

    Danes – Dani

    Eastern Roman Empire - Imperium Romanum Pars Orientis

    Ebdanians - Eblani

    Franks - Franci

    Gaetulians - Gaetuli

    Gaul – Diocesis Galliarum

    Garamantians - Garamantes

    Geats – Gauti

    Gepids - Gepidae

    Ghassanids – Regnum Ghassanidarum

    Greuthingians (sic) – Greuthungi

    Hispania – Diocesis Hispaniae

    Himyar - Homeritae

    Huns – Hunni

    Illyria – Diocesis Pannoniarum

    Italia – Diocesis Italiae

    Judea – Iudea

    Jutes - Iuti

    Lakhmids – Regnum Lachmidarum

    Langobards - Langobardi

    Lugians – Lugii

    Macedonia – Diocesis Macedoniae

    Magyars – Ungri

    Marcomans - Marcomanni

    Maurians – Mauri

    Mazun - Maca

    Oriens - Diocesis Orientis

    Ostrogoths – Ostrogothi

    Persia - Persis

    Picts – Picti

    Pontus – Diocesis Pontica

    Quadians - Quadi

    Roxolanians - Roxolani

    Rugians – Rugii

    Sabirs – Sabiri

    Sassanid Empire – Regnum Persarum

    Saxons – Saxones

    Sclavenians – Sclaveni

    Septimania – Diocesis Septem Provinciarum

    Domain of Soissons – Dominium Suessionum

    Suebians - Suebi

    Tanukhids - Saraceni (I couldn't find a Latin source from the time that refers to them as anything but this. Let me know if you have one though)

    Thuringians - Thuringi

    Vandals - Vandali

    Varinians - Varini

    Venedians - Venedi

    Visigoths - Visigothi

    Caledonians - Caledones (yes, this one is listed here at the end, as the faction key is Votadini. I might just make them the Votadini, but I don't think Caledones is any less accurate)

    White Huns - Ephthalitae

    Full List of the Last Roman Latin Faction Names
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    Basques – Vascones

    Berbers – Mazicani

    Bretons – Britanni

    Burgundians – Burgundi

    Roman Empire – Imperium Romanum

    Roman Expedition – Expeditio Romana

    Frankish Kingdom – Regnum Francorum

    Langobards – Langobardi

    Moors – Mauri

    Ostrogothic Kingdom – Regnum Ostrogothorum

    Sardinians – Sardi

    Suebians – Suebi

    Vandalic Kingdom – Regnum Vandalorum

    Visigothic Kingdom – Regnum Visigothorum

    List of Latin Changes to Political Parties (Politics Screen):
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    Alamans - Bucinobantes

    Eastern Roman Empire - Gens Flavia

    Franks - Salii (not the Salian dynasty, but the Salian Franks. It's too early to put the Merovingians here, but I think this works well enough)

    Lakhmids - Lachmidae

    Langobards - Letingi

    Ostrogoths - Amali

    Sassanids - Sassanidae

    Saxons - Geuissae

    Vandals - Hasdingi

    Visigoths - Balti

    Western Roman Empire - Gens Flavia (Yep, same dynasty as ERE)

    Full List of Age of Charlemagne Latin Faction Names
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    Kingdom of Ailech - Regnum Hiberniae Cauri (totally fudged this and the other Irish ones. Can't find any sources for the Irish kingdoms in Latin)

    Duchy of Alemannia - Ducatus Alemanniae

    Alt Clut - Regnum Scottorum

    Angria - Angrarii

    Duchy of Aquitaine - Ducatus Aquitaniae

    Kingdom of Asturias - Regnum Asturorum

    Avars - Avari

    Taifa of Badajoz - Hispania Emeritensis (also fudged. Again, hard to find Latin sources)

    Taifa of Barcelona - Barcenona

    Duchy of Bavaria - Ducatus Bavariae

    Duchy of Benevento - Ducatus Beneventum

    Bohemia - Unchanged.

    Kingdom of Brittany - Regnum Brittonum

    Duchy of Burgundy - Ducatus Burgundiae

    Kingdom of Carloman - Regnum Carlomanni

    Kingdom of Charlemagne - Regnum Caroli (No magnus here )

    Kingdom of Connachta - Regnum Hiberniae Occidentalis

    Emirate of Cordoba - Phylarchia Cordubae (fudged again)

    Duchy of Croatia - Regnum Croatorum

    Kingdom of the Danes - Dani

    Eastphalia - Ostfalahi

    Duchy of Frisia - Ducatus Frisiae

    Duchy of Gascony - Ducatus Wasconiae (yeah, W. Medieval Latin isn't great, and I think that Wasconia was the name)

    Kingdom of Glywysing - Regnum Glevensum

    Emirate of Granada - Phylarchia Illiberis

    Kingdom of Gwynedd - Regnum Venedotiae

    Kingdom of Kent - Regnum Cantii

    Kingdom of Leinster - Regnum Hiberniae Orientalis

    Kingdom of Lombardy - Regnum Langobardorum

    Kingdom of Mercia - Regnum Merciorum

    Kingdom of Munster - Regnm Hiberniae Austri

    Nordalbingia - Unchanged.

    Kingdom of Northumbria - Regnum Nordanhymbrorum

    Obodrites - Obotriti

    Duchy of Pamplona - Ducatus Pompaeli

    Papal States - Status Pontificius

    Picts - Picti

    Kingdom of Powys - Regnum Pagensum (slightly fudged)

    Duchy of Provence - Ducatus Provinciae

    Taifa of Sevilla - Hispalis

    Theme of Sicily - Thema Siciliae

    Duchy of Spoleto - Ducatus Spolitae

    Taifa of Toledo - Toletum

    Kingdom of Ulaid - Regnum Hiberniae Caeciae

    Taifa of Valencia - Valentia

    Republic of Venice - Venetia (decided not to add "republic," but maybe I should)

    Kingdom of Wessex - Regnum Occidentalium Saxonum

    Westphalia - Westfalahi

    Wilzi - Welatabi

    Taifa of Zaragoza - Caesaraugusta (yes, this is the Roman name )

    List of Changes to Age of Charlemagne Latin Political Parties
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    Beni Alfons - Gens Alphonsi

    Carolingian Dynasty - Carolingi

    Umayyads - Phylarchi Cordubae (Can't find this at all in Latin)

    The Iclingas - Gens Icles

    List of Latin Kingdoms in the Last Roman and Charlemagne
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    Kingdom of Rome - Regnum Romanum (literally "Roman Kingdom" but I think it works. Maybe I'll go check some of those Republican Roman texts about the kingdom though)

    Avar Khaganate - Regnum Avarorum (I don't think there's a latin word for "Khaganate." Please correct me if I'm wrong )

    Caliphate of Cordoba - Regnum Cordubae (Same here as above. I did find a word for "Emirate" though, so there's that)

    Kingdom of England - Regnum Angliae

    Kingdom of the Franks - Regnum Francorum

    Holy Roman Empire - Sacrum Romanum Imperium

    Ireland - Hibernia

    Kingdom of Italy - Regnum Italiae

    Kingdom of Saxony - Regnum Saxonum

    Scotland - Caledonia

    Kingdom of Spain - Regnum Hispaniae

    Kingdom of the Vikings - Regnum Normannorum

    Wales - Cambria

    Download Link (Endonym version):
    Mediafire
    Steam Workshop

    Download Link (Latin version):
    Mediafire
    Steam Workshop

    Update Log (Endonyms):
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    2/18/2015 - Fixed filename and made several fixes to various faction names.
    2/18/2015, much later that day - Added Lakhmid and Ghassanid names, thanks to Brivime!
    2/22/2015 - Changed several factions.
    2/24/2015 - Fixed political parties.
    3/11/2015 - Fixed Longbeards DLC political parties and missing names for Longbeards DLC civil war factions (by making the factions table a fragment).
    3/15/2015 - Several changes. Thanks to m_1512 and his faction names mod for many of these names, and Alexios Komnenos for the Soissons fix (not yet included in the Latin version, but will be soon along with other additions).
    3/15/2015, a few minutes later - Made those changes for real this time. Have to double-check when I make these edits in PFM...
    3/25/2015 - Updated for the Celts patch, and even more changes (in bold in the full list).
    7/1/2015 - Added names for the Last Roman Campaign/Suebi Update, and Mediafire link added.
    9/17/2015 - Updated for the Empires of Sand DLC.
    12/18/2015 - Updated for the Charlemagne DLC and White Huns update.
    12/19/2015 - Added (hopefully) kingdom names for TLR and AoC. Also changed a few AoC names.
    2/10/2016 - Reverted Himyar to vanilla for now, and added new political parties for a few factions.
    2/28/2016 - Updated for the Slavic Nations DLC.
    3/5/2016 - Fixed Roman political parties in the endonym version.
    3/5/2016, again - Fixed some separatist faction names.
    3/10/2016 - Changed some political party names, thanks to Charerg and the IB3 team.
    3/12/2016 - A few more political parties, and changes to Alans and both Gothic factions (last two thanks to Charerg).
    3/18/2016 - Replaced/renamed Magyars with Onogurs.
    3/19/2016 - Fixed Gothic political party names.
    3/26/2016 - Renamed the Gothic factions, again. And added several separatist faction names.
    4/5/2016 - Fixed a few errors in some faction names.
    7/15/2016 - Fixed the Caliphate of Cordoba name not displaying correctly.
    8/3/2016 - Fixed the name of the Asturian Separatists faction.
    10/8/2016 - Changed the names for the Ebdanians and Picts, thanks to zombieflanders.
    3/6/2018 - Changed the name of the Geat ruling dynasty and fixed a misspelling in the name of the Danish one, thanks to Artacus.

    Update Log (Latin):
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    2/22/2015 - Added a Latin version.
    2/24/2015 - Updated Sassanids and Afrighids.
    2/24/2015, a few minutes later - Fixed political parties.
    3/11/2015 - Fixed Longbeards DLC political parties and missing names for Longbeards DLC civil war factions (by making the factions table a fragment).
    3/25/2015 - Updated for the Celts patch, and even more changes (in bold in the full list). Rebel and separatist faction names changed as well (not listed. I may make this list later).
    3/26/2015 - Fixed the mod not working. Very bizarre, since the endonyms didn't need to be fixed...
    3/26/2015, again - One more fix, for the Nomadic Tribes faction group. Thanks to NumNutsXIII for spotting it.
    6/26/2015 - Updated to work with the new patch (new faction names not yet changed), and Mediafire link added.
    7/1/2015 - Added names for the Last Roman Campaign/Suebi Update.
    9/17/2015 - Updated for the Empires of Sand DLC.
    12/18/2015 - Updated for the Charlemagne DLC and White Huns update.
    12/19/2015 - Added (hopefully) kingdom names for TLR and AoC.
    2/10/2016 - Added new political parties for a few factions.
    2/28/2016 - Updated for the Slavic Nations DLC.
    3/5/2016 - Fixed some separatist faction names.
    3/12/2016 - A few more political party names added.
    3/18/2016 - Renamed Magyars.
    4/5/2016 - Improved compatibility with Europa Perdita. You should be able to use this as a submod for EP now.
    8/3/2016 - Fixed the name of the Asturian Separatists faction.


    Thanks for names and advice from:
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    Brivime
    Magister Militum Flavius Aetius
    Alexios Komnenos
    m_1512
    The Iron Chancellor
    ep1c_fail
    ZombieZleeping
    zombieflanders
    Charerg
    The Invasio Barbarorum III Team
    Tryggvi
    Artacus
    And everyone else giving feedback on the mod
    Last edited by Augustusng; March 06, 2018 at 11:20 AM.

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    Default Re: Authentic Faction Names

    So what did you call the Roman factions?
    Interested in how Attila and the new LONGBEARDS DLC plays?

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    Gratias! ...when I see the name "Hunnu" I can't help being reminded of a certain soundbyte

    HUNNU-NUUUUU
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    This makes my game crash, by the way!
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    Am I just being dumb, or do mods not show up under the Steam mod manager due to the workshop not yet being open? I have out of date mods ticked, but still nothing.

    EDIT: I needed to extract the file, disregard me!
    Last edited by GourmetGorilla; February 17, 2015 at 11:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helmersen View Post
    This makes my game crash, by the way!
    I'll look into this. It might be the special characters I've used (þ for example), in which case I'll just get rid of those.

    Speaking of, I don't think I can actually use "Gut-þiuda" (Goths) in place of "Great Migrators," as there are other, non-Gothic factions which are part of that faction group. I'm going to have to change that to something else. That's what I get for thinking the faction groups are divided on cultural lines. But I'd like to rework the faction and faction group bonuses anyway to make them less game-y, and maybe move some factions around eventually.

    Oh, and I've gone for "Imperium Romanum Occidentale" and "Imperium Romanum Orientale" for the Roman factions. Maybe I can write up a list of my changes here instead of just in the pack file.

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    I saw instances in the game where the ERE was just named "Imperium Roman Orientale" and not "Romanum". Also, I found the error! The file was named with the use of spaces, and not "_" underscores. This is why it crashed! And is Orientale and Occidentale more correct than "Orientalis" and "Occidentalis"?
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    Yes, Orientale and Occidentale are the neuter form of the word, while the -is ending is masculine/feminine. Neuter form goes with Imperium, the same way as Romanum.

    Edit: Well, you could use Orientalis or Occidentalis, but it would mean "of the East/West" instead of "Eastern/Western" (using the word in the genitive case).

    Also thanks for catching that, I'll update this shortly once I figure out what to do with the "Great Migrators."
    Last edited by Augustusng; February 18, 2015 at 01:43 PM.

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    And updated... with several fixes, and a full list of the changes in the OP.

    Also, it shouldn't crash the game now.

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    Nice work, glad to see somebody is on this.

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    Ghassanids > Ghassasina (alternatively Mamlekat al-Ghassasina)

    Lakhmids > Bani Lakhm (Alternatively you can call them Munathera or al-Lakhmiyun)

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    Cool, thanks! I'll add those in a bit. I think I'll go with the first ones you listed, unless the others make more sense.

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    And... updated with Ghassasina and Bani Lakhm. Thanks again!

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    Looking for some advice as I continue to update this. I'm thinking of changing a few faction names so they're not all in Latin (the other option is just to put everything in Latin, but that's boring ). Here's what I've found so far. These may not be accurate, so I won't add them into the mod yet - but I will if no one objects to these changes/additions. I've also marked the languages for each of the possible names I'm thinking about here. Some of these languages are a little outside the game's time period (Anglo-Saxon, Old Norse), but they might fit better than Latin.

    Angles - Angel-þeod (Old English/Anglo-Saxon)

    Danes - Danir (Old Norse) or maybe Dene (Old English/Anglo-Saxon)

    Geats - Currently I have them as Geatas (Old English/Anglo-Saxon), but Gautar (Old Norse) or even Gautoz (Proto-Germanic) might work. On that note, does anyone happen to know Proto-Germanic or have a good source for it? It's probably a good idea to put some of the Germanic factions into that language (Suebi, Marcomanni, etc).

    Jutes - Eotas or Eotenas (Old English/Anglo-Saxon. I can't find a source for them in Old Norse, which is why I'm thinking of putting the Geats and Danes in Old English too, just for consistency. But my names are already very inconsistent...)

    Sassanid Empire - Eranshahr (Middle Persian)

    Saxons - Seaxe (Old English/Anglo-Saxon)

    Domain of Soissons - Dominatio Suessionum (Latin, would mean more literally the "Domain of the Suessiones," the tribe for which Soissons is named. Of course, the Suessiones weren't ruling there, but the name of the Roman city in this area was "Augusta Suessionum")

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    Very nice mod adds a good atmosphere to the game with the native languages and such

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    You could probably make alternative versions -- a Roman-centric Latin version would make the most sense for WRE/ERE campaigns, while endonyms fit better for playing basically everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iaius Statius Laurentius View Post
    You could probably make alternative versions -- a Roman-centric Latin version would make the most sense for WRE/ERE campaigns, while endonyms fit better for playing basically everyone else.
    That's actually not a bad idea. I'll have a Latin version out tonight or tomorrow.

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    You say "authentic" but from the looks of it isn't more like Latin names.
    For example I think Geats called themselves rather Götar or Gautar in Old Norse.

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    Nice mod, I'm impressed with your correct use of Latin. Hard to come across these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zikko View Post
    You say "authentic" but from the looks of it isn't more like Latin names.
    For example I think Geats called themselves rather Götar or Gautar in Old Norse.
    Yes, I know. Did you not see this post?

    Quote Originally Posted by Augustusng View Post
    Looking for some advice as I continue to update this. I'm thinking of changing a few faction names so they're not all in Latin (the other option is just to put everything in Latin, but that's boring ). Here's what I've found so far. These may not be accurate, so I won't add them into the mod yet - but I will if no one objects to these changes/additions. I've also marked the languages for each of the possible names I'm thinking about here. Some of these languages are a little outside the game's time period (Anglo-Saxon, Old Norse), but they might fit better than Latin.

    Angles - Angel-þeod (Old English/Anglo-Saxon)

    Danes - Danir (Old Norse) or maybe Dene (Old English/Anglo-Saxon)

    Geats - Currently I have them as Geatas (Old English/Anglo-Saxon), but Gautar (Old Norse) or even Gautoz (Proto-Germanic) might work. On that note, does anyone happen to know Proto-Germanic or have a good source for it? It's probably a good idea to put some of the Germanic factions into that language (Suebi, Marcomanni, etc).

    Jutes - Eotas or Eotenas (Old English/Anglo-Saxon. I can't find a source for them in Old Norse, which is why I'm thinking of putting the Geats and Danes in Old English too, just for consistency. But my names are already very inconsistent...)

    Sassanid Empire - Eranshahr (Middle Persian)

    Saxons - Seaxe (Old English/Anglo-Saxon)

    Domain of Soissons - Dominatio Suessionum (Latin, would mean more literally the "Domain of the Suessiones," the tribe for which Soissons is named. Of course, the Suessiones weren't ruling there, but the name of the Roman city in this area was "Augusta Suessionum")
    I'm trying to fix that sort of thing. So I'll probably go with Gautar for the Geats. You don't happen to know what works for the Jutes?

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