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    I do not play Rome2 DeI a while I would understand if there are important news on the civil war, I heard that the parameters have changed
    Thanks for the clarification

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    Civil war has been changed both in the base game and DeI. Read the official patch notes from CA for the base game changes, and the Scriptorium sticky for DeI for the mod changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombieflanders View Post
    Civil war has been changed both in the base game and DeI. Read the official patch notes from CA for the base game changes, and the Scriptorium sticky for DeI for the mod changes.
    you can put the link to the second ?

    thank you

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    I played a campaign that lasted around 700 turns without any Civil War .

    All you should do to avoid civil wars is choosing your generals carefully based on the power their household (s) have .

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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    Hello, I'm new thanks for the great mod.

    I don't understand the civil war system can someone explain to me please?

    I'm playing Selecuid and I'm at 72% influence and I get civil war, why?

    From what I understand I'm a single party faction and higher influnce = better, right?

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14215923

    Here it says low chance <65%, but I'm at 70% pls help me.

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    i would like an explanation too, in my suebi campaign i was at 97 % influence and i experienced too a civil war (single party faction). If someone could explain.

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    I did a bit research myself.

    It seems that single party faction civil war is bugged.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...Less-Civil-War

    I'm using this mod right now, but I think it needs restart of campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas_r View Post
    i would like an explanation too, in my suebi campaign i was at 97 % influence and i experienced too a civil war (single party faction). If someone could explain.
    For some reason in DEI the chances of civil war will start at Imperium 4, which gives you a low chance (1%), Imperium 5 will give you a medium chance (2%), Imperium 6 will give you a high chance (3%).
    So even if your influence is fine, the Imperium will also be a factor in civil war chances, the team need to change the fame level chances for civil war to a value of 100 to make civil war based on Imperium impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanzy View Post
    I am playing a single party faction (Anthony's Rome) and at max imeprium I found that keeping my party's influence just under 43% will always keep everyone happy, 240ish turns in and no civil war as of yet.
    I'll try that then, thanks.

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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    Low chance =/= no chance. It just means that the chance of having a civil war is lower, but it doesn't eliminate the possibility of a civil war. The only way to stop it is by starting a new campaign with this mini-mod.

    The larger your empire grow the bigger the chance of a civil war. That overrides the soft mitigation from party influence. Right now I'm playing as Rome in Augustus campaign. My empire stretches from Bactria in the east, to Spain in the west. From Germany in the north to Numidia in the south. I have more than 65% influence in my single party faction, but I still have a high chance of civil war. I don't think <66% is going to help you.

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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
    - The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.













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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    This is the only forum I visit with any sort of frequency and I'm glad it has provided a home for RTR since its own forum went down in 2007. Hopefully my donation along with others from TWC users will help get the site back to its speedy heyday, which will certainly aid us in our endeavor to produce a full conversion mod Rome2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kjertesvein View Post
    Low chance =/= no chance. It just means that the chance of having a civil war is lower, but it doesn't eliminate the possibility of a civil war. The only way to stop it is by starting a new campaign with this mini-mod.

    The larger your empire grow the bigger the chance of a civil war. That overrides the soft mitigation from party influence. Right now I'm playing as Rome in Augustus campaign. My empire stretches from Bactria in the east, to Spain in the west. From Germany in the north to Numidia in the south. I have more than 65% influence in my single party faction, but I still have a high chance of civil war. I don't think <66% is going to help you.

    ~Wille
    It was only turn ~40 for me, I was already struggling then hit Imperium 4 and immediately civil war. (normal campaign difficulty)

    Unbalanced civil war was one of the reasons I quit this game on release, I hope it will be balanced soon, otherwise extremly good mod.

    After reading this thread I'm even more confused:

    Some people write Imperium level will overwrite the chances. Some people say they never see Civil war.

    The numbers mentioned here (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14215923) don't really help. Devs and ingame notes say, aim for high influence, people in this thread say aim for <45%, really confusing.
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    When you play as Rome even without any other submod just keep influence in the middle, I did not had a single civil war in my entire campaign (influence around 30% for my faction).
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    You're talking about GC, right? Anthony's Rome is a single party faction.

    ​~Wille
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
    - The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.













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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    This is the only forum I visit with any sort of frequency and I'm glad it has provided a home for RTR since its own forum went down in 2007. Hopefully my donation along with others from TWC users will help get the site back to its speedy heyday, which will certainly aid us in our endeavor to produce a full conversion mod Rome2.

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    I am playing a single party faction (Anthony's Rome) and at max imeprium I found that keeping my party's influence just under 43% will always keep everyone happy, 240ish turns in and no civil war as of yet.

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    I had exactly the same as you Djangoo, i reached imperium level 4 and immediately i got a civil war even with a low chance of it. I was in a big war at that moment, so because of these rebels I had to let my campaign and i lost a lot.

    Now I'm at medium chance of civil war, I'm really afraid of having a second civil war, because i will be at war with the monster of egypt (they got all the east, ALL the east ...). It could be the end of my campaign and i dont want this lol.

    After I like the concept of Civil war, but having a civil war lets say each 80 turn its not fun, especially at the beginning when you only have 2-3 armies. However its my point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas_r View Post
    I had exactly the same as you Djangoo, i reached imperium level 4 and immediately i got a civil war even with a low chance of it. I was in a big war at that moment, so because of these rebels I had to let my campaign and i lost a lot.

    Now I'm at medium chance of civil war, I'm really afraid of having a second civil war, because i will be at war with the monster of egypt (they got all the east, ALL the east ...). It could be the end of my campaign and i dont want this lol.
    If you like your current campaign but you can't stand the civil war , then just reload your last auto save. I don't know why, but civil wars are quite rare even on high CW risks messages. It's not even cheating because the game mechanic is kinda broken. A game mechanic is broken when the designated counter-play doesn't work.

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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
    - The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.













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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    This is the only forum I visit with any sort of frequency and I'm glad it has provided a home for RTR since its own forum went down in 2007. Hopefully my donation along with others from TWC users will help get the site back to its speedy heyday, which will certainly aid us in our endeavor to produce a full conversion mod Rome2.

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    Yeah, I'm thinking the single-party faction civil war chances simply don't work the way they should. I've had a civil war at over 90% influence as Antony as well - "high civil war chance" all the time with high influence.

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    @wille Yeah i could but i will not do that ... My germans will triumph without cheating

    I just hope that Civil war will be checked by the modders soon.

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    Load up PFM, open _devide_et_Impera_Release.pack.

    Navigate to:
    DB
    Campaign_variables_tables
    Dres2_campaign_variables

    Find the lines:

    civil_war_low_chance_fame_level 4
    civil_war_medium_chance_fame_level 5
    civil_war_high_chance_fame_level 6

    Change the values 4, 5 and 6 to 100 and you will not have any chance of civil war based on Imperium level.

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