About Confederations and some strange cavalry talents.

**chadwicknight** · February 11, 2015, 08:22 AM

No matter how strong I hit my foes, I still can't force one of them, even the weakest, to join a confederation in my Suebi campaign. Any suggestions?

... also:

Germanic Scout Riders and Scandinavian Light Cavalry have Guerrilla deployment and Stalk abilities. I can be somewhat ok with the former, but the ability to move unseen on the back of a horse?! and a norse one at that!

**Butan** · February 11, 2015, 09:22 AM

I cant tell specifics for confederating except its best done when they also kind of love you (hard to pull if you killed them too much

).

On cavalry I understand your point, especially stalking in broad daylight open field!...
But their stats are pretty sucky and I understand that they have such abilities to make them more relevant balance wise, else they could only scout and its not really useful.

**chadwicknight** · February 11, 2015, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Butan

I cant tell specifics for confederating except its best done when they also kind of love you (hard to pull if you killed them too much

).

Oh! I didn't think at all at the love thing, silly me. Thank you very much! I am gonna try this.

**Augustusng** · February 11, 2015, 10:45 AM

As far as I can tell, the best way to have a faction join a confederation is if you have a mutual enemy that's stronger than the faction you want in the confederation. Also helps if you're stronger than them too.

**0celot** · February 12, 2015, 01:30 PM

I am currently playing a Suebi campaign and enjoying it a lot. I have managed to make one faction join my confederacy (The Marcomanni), but that was because they were at war with about 6 factions and about to loose their last settlement. The success rate was High and they gave me 2,000 gold for it. Apart from that I havent really played around with the mechanic, except for when I am about to take an enemy factions last settlement but they never seem to want to accept, but I guess just play around with it and offer people money and see what happens.

**GourmetGorilla** · February 13, 2015, 12:46 AM

Those sneaky Scandinavian horses....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7rWeWymJDw

**RollingWave** · February 13, 2015, 02:51 AM

It's weird, as Averni I mostly was at peace with the other confederation possible factions, we went on a massive celtic expansion, and gradually I got the others to join me through massive bribes (I mean 20-50k .) but it' weird, some times these 2 to even 4 region factions join, but those 1-2 refuse no matter how much money.

it's a tricky system, in general they either need to be really desperate or you need to have great relationship with them (on top of being really strong, obviously.)