I have my imperium in level 3 and I am on turn 52 but I haven't received any message about a reform and still can't get Thureos units. Why not? I have researched the purple military upgrade and I am confused, because my friend playing as the Romans already has his reform and I'm stuck with my earlier not as good units and I fear this could put me at a big disadvantage. I fill the requirements but it isn't happening!
I have my imperium in level 3 and I am on turn 52 but I haven't received any message about a reform and still can't get Thureos units. Why not? I have researched the purple military upgrade and I am confused, because my friend playing as the Romans already has his reform and I'm stuck with my earlier not as good units and I fear this could put me at a big disadvantage. I fill the requirements but it isn't happening!
The Thureos Reform requires 60 turns and Imperium Level 3
Really? I looked at Dresden's military reforms and it says minimum 50.
I am not 100% sure either but I think you are right and Litharion mixed it with global reforms. I might be wrong though and the "reforms help thread isn't up-to-date. Not sure because lastly I only played Romans
My question would be don you use any other mods? Because there are some which might break reform scripts.
See, this confuses me. This is from Dresden himself. What's the difference here?
Player Cultural Reform Triggers: Greek\Successor Kingdoms Thureos - Imperium level 3, minimum turns 50 Thorax - Imperium level 5, minimum turns 120
Celtic\Gallic\Thracian\Iberian\German Neitos - Imperium level 4, minimum turns 90
Parthian
Late Reforms - Imperium level 5, turns 120
Global Cultural Reform Triggers: Greek\Successor Kingdoms *Armenian and Illyrian reforms will trigger on these turns as well even for the player. Thureos - Turn 60 Thorax - Turn 140
good question I think since unit upgrades are there, reforms are sometimes a little bugged. I didn't have any major problems (for me they always worked fine). Maybe just play those additional 8 rounds and report back if reform happened. If not we have a bug...
EDIT: Litharion again one min faster abut anyways he has more more skill to help you with that
- Divide et Impera Reforms Log- Sunday, 02 February 2015
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> Starting creation of Player Faction: rom_rome
> Creating new Player faction rom_rome
Name: rom_rome
Successor State: false
Metatable set
Name: roman
Campaign enabled: true
Active: true
Enabled: true
Num: 1
< Player Reform roman created.
< Player Faction: rom_rome created.
>>> Checking for faction: rom_rome roman reform; imperium is at level 3 and it is turn n. 50
- Imperium Check: 7 Turn Check: 210 Reform Num: 4
- Imperium Check: 5 Turn Check: 100 Reform Num: 3
- Imperium Check: 3 Turn Check: 40 Reform Num: 2
* A new Player Reform is available
* SETTINGS CHANGE: New Player Reform roman num: 2
> Ended creation of Player Faction: rom_rome
> Starting creation of Player Faction: rom_macedon
> Creating new Player faction rom_macedon
Name: rom_macedon
Successor State: true
Metatable set
Name: greek
Campaign enabled: true
Active: true
Enabled: true
Num: 1
< Player Reform greek created.
< Player Faction: rom_macedon created.
>>> Checking for faction: rom_macedon greek reform; imperium is at level 3 and it is turn n. 50
- Imperium Check: 5 Turn Check: 120 Reform Num: 3
- Imperium Check: 3 Turn Check: 50 Reform Num: 2
* A new Player Reform is available
* SETTINGS CHANGE: New Player Reform greek num: 2
> Ended creation of Player Faction: rom_macedon
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Player Factions creation finished.
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Starting Global Reforms creation
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> Starting creation of Global Reform: roman
> Creating new global roman reform
Type: roman
Campaign Enabled: true
>No faction found
Active: false
Enabled: false
Num: 1
< Global Reform of type roman created
! Global roman reforms are disabled in this campaign/circumstance
* No units setup done, as global reforms of this type are disabled/inactive
< Ended creation of Global Reform: roman
> Starting creation of Global Reform: carthaginian
> Creating new global carthaginian reform
Type: carthaginian
Campaign Enabled: true
Active: true
Enabled: true
Num: 1
< Global Reform of type carthaginian created
> Checking for global carthaginian reform and it is turn n. 50
- Turn Check: 100 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
< Ended creation of Global Reform: carthaginian
> Starting creation of Global Reform: greek
> Creating new global greek reform
Type: greek
Campaign Enabled: true
Active: true
Enabled: true
Num: 1
< Global Reform of type greek created
> Checking for global greek reform and it is turn n. 50
- Turn Check: 140 Reform Num: 3
> Player Faction(s) found with same Reform available, checking if global Reforms is lower...
> Player Faction reform is smaller than the new global one, no global reform
- Turn Check: 60 Reform Num: 2
> Player Faction(s) found with same Reform available, checking if global Reforms is lower...
> Player Faction reform is smaller than the new global one, no global reform
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
< Ended creation of Global Reform: greek
> Starting creation of Global Reform: celtic
> Creating new global celtic reform
Type: celtic
Campaign Enabled: true
Active: true
Enabled: true
Num: 1
< Global Reform of type celtic created
> Checking for global celtic reform and it is turn n. 50
- Turn Check: 110 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
< Ended creation of Global Reform: celtic
> Starting creation of Global Reform: iberian
> Creating new global iberian reform
Type: iberian
Campaign Enabled: true
Active: true
Enabled: true
Num: 1
< Global Reform of type iberian created
> Checking for global iberian reform and it is turn n. 50
- Turn Check: 117 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
< Ended creation of Global Reform: iberian
> Starting creation of Global Reform: german
> Creating new global german reform
Type: german
Campaign Enabled: true
Active: true
Enabled: true
Num: 1
< Global Reform of type german created
> Checking for global german reform and it is turn n. 50
- Turn Check: 115 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
< Ended creation of Global Reform: german
> Starting creation of Global Reform: parthian
> Creating new global parthian reform
Type: parthian
Campaign Enabled: true
Active: true
Enabled: true
Num: 1
< Global Reform of type parthian created
> Checking for global parthian reform and it is turn n. 50
- Turn Check: 130 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
< Ended creation of Global Reform: parthian
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Global Reforms creation finished.
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> Successor States setup began
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Enabling Pike units for faction: rom_macedon
Enabling Pike units for faction: rom_ptolemaics
Enabling Pike units for faction: rom_seleucid
Enabling Pike units for faction: rom_baktria
Enabling Pike units for faction: rom_pergamon
< Successor States setup ended
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Reforms are now enabled
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LOADED CAMPAIGN: MAIN_ROME
BEGINNING TURN NUMBER 50
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CAMPAIGN: MAIN_ROME
BEGINNING TURN NUMBER 51
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BEGINNING GLOBAL REFORMS CHECK
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> Checking for global german reform and it is turn n. 51
- Turn Check: 115 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
> Checking for global parthian reform and it is turn n. 51
- Turn Check: 130 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
> Checking for global carthaginian reform and it is turn n. 51
- Turn Check: 100 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
! Global roman reforms are disabled in this campaign/circumstance
> Checking for global iberian reform and it is turn n. 51
- Turn Check: 117 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
> Checking for global greek reform and it is turn n. 51
- Turn Check: 140 Reform Num: 3
> Player Faction(s) found with same Reform available, checking if global Reforms is lower...
> Player Faction reform is smaller than the new global one, no global reform
- Turn Check: 60 Reform Num: 2
> Player Faction(s) found with same Reform available, checking if global Reforms is lower...
> Player Faction reform is smaller than the new global one, no global reform
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
> Checking for global celtic reform and it is turn n. 51
- Turn Check: 110 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
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ENDED GLOBAL REFORMS CHECK
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Using Maximum Imperium system: Imperium is still below or at maximum achieved. (3)
Loaded Player Faction: rom_macedon with reform: greek - Enabled status: true
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BEGINNING PLAYER FACTION ROM_MACEDON TURN CHECK
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>>> Checking for faction: rom_macedon greek reform; imperium is at level 3 and it is turn n. 51
- Imperium Check: 5 Turn Check: 120 Reform Num: 3
No new Player Reform available at the moment
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CAMPAIGN: MAIN_ROME
BEGINNING TURN NUMBER 52
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BEGINNING GLOBAL REFORMS CHECK
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> Checking for global german reform and it is turn n. 52
- Turn Check: 115 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
> Checking for global parthian reform and it is turn n. 52
- Turn Check: 130 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
> Checking for global carthaginian reform and it is turn n. 52
- Turn Check: 100 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
! Global roman reforms are disabled in this campaign/circumstance
> Checking for global iberian reform and it is turn n. 52
- Turn Check: 117 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
> Checking for global greek reform and it is turn n. 52
- Turn Check: 140 Reform Num: 3
> Player Faction(s) found with same Reform available, checking if global Reforms is lower...
> Player Faction reform is smaller than the new global one, no global reform
- Turn Check: 60 Reform Num: 2
> Player Faction(s) found with same Reform available, checking if global Reforms is lower...
> Player Faction reform is smaller than the new global one, no global reform
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
> Checking for global celtic reform and it is turn n. 52
- Turn Check: 110 Reform Num: 2
< No new Global reform of this type available at the moment
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ENDED GLOBAL REFORMS CHECK
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Using Maximum Imperium system: Imperium is still below or at maximum achieved. (3)
Loaded Player Faction: rom_macedon with reform: greek - Enabled status: true
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BEGINNING PLAYER FACTION ROM_MACEDON TURN CHECK
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>>> Checking for faction: rom_macedon greek reform; imperium is at level 3 and it is turn n. 52
- Imperium Check: 5 Turn Check: 120 Reform Num: 3
No new Player Reform available at the moment
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ENDED PLAYER FACTION ROM_MACEDON CHECK
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> Creating new Player faction rom_macedon
Name: rom_macedon
Successor State: true
Metatable set
Name: greek
Campaign enabled: true
Active: true
Enabled: true
Num: 1
< Player Reform greek created.
< Player Faction: rom_macedon created.
>>> Checking for faction: rom_macedon greek reform; imperium is at level 3 and it is turn n. 50
- Imperium Check: 5 Turn Check: 120 Reform Num: 3 - Imperium Check: 3 Turn Check: 50 Reform Num: 2
* A new Player Reform is available
* SETTINGS CHANGE: New Player Reform greek num: 2
upload the save game and I can take a look into the restricted unit lists.
Originally Posted by Hoplitus
good question I think since unit upgrades are there, reforms are sometimes a little bugged. I didn't have any major problems (for me they always worked fine). Maybe just play those additional 8 rounds and report back if reform happened. If not we have a bug...
EDIT: Litharion again one min faster abut anyways he has more more skill to help you with that
thanks for your help, I mixed up the reform requirements a little
I will try to tinker with a few things and if I'm completely unstuck I'll upload it and give it too the proffesionals Thanks for your help so far! What is the difference between those two things anyway? Player Cultural Reform Triggers: Global Cultural Reform Triggers Aren't they the same?
Antigonidai (Macedon) reform not happening?
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Re: Antigonidai (Macedon) reform not happening?
Originally Posted by Ascaniius
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I think since unit upgrades are there, reforms are sometimes a little bugged. I didn't have any major problems (for me they always worked fine). Maybe just play those additional 8 rounds and report back if reform happened. If not we have a bug...
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