Μοds that dont predict....

[Hellenes]

Most of the TW veterans will know me since the times of legiontotalwar....
At these distant times even before VI was released everyone had this idea stuck in their heads (me included): CA doest make remakes.
None expected Medieval2...
So this lead to the unfortunate death of 2-3 mods (Chivalry's Adherbal's resignemnt comes to mind)...
Now Ive read about couple of Roman mods for M2TW and thought, why none anticipates that there is a great probability for Rome2Total War?
Even worst a Napoleonic Total War made by CA would deliver a huge blow to the well known mod that bares that name...(one thing only: Naval Battles)...
So which mods "survived" the plunge? LotR mods, Shogun Mod and couple of RTW era mods...
For me any prospective modders should also analyze the potential investment of CA in the same field as their mod...
Im convinced that the next title of CA will be set in Napoleonic era with a 70% probability (Naval Battles, Revolutionary new Engine=Guns), leaving a 30% for an easy R2TW rehash...
History has VERY few truly diverse and "popular" (in the braindead hollywood sense) timelines....

[Tom Servo]

They wont do anything after the renaissance, i doubt there will ever be a napoleonic game. Probably a fantasy game is coming next.

[Hellenes]

They wont do anything after the renaissance, i doubt there will ever be a napoleonic game. Probably a fantasy game is coming next.

However there is a quite great obstacle to fantasy TW: Licenses....
Plus their main fanbase is one of historical wargaming...I doubt that a non established fantasy setting will sell better than a historical one....
Unless SEGA buys the LoTR lisence or Warhammer....

[Spiff]

I reckon they will revisit Shogun territory but with added mythology.

Either than or Empire total war, as in napoleonic

[Ludicus]

However there is a quite great obstacle to fantasy TW: Licenses....
Plus their main fanbase is one of historical wargaming...I doubt that a non established fantasy setting will sell better than a historical one....
Unless SEGA buys the LoTR lisence or Warhammer....

Agreed

Edit: my options:

1- Age of Discoveries ( naval battles as well as land battles).Europe (and more) 1500-1700

2-China total war (RTK)

[drak10687]

Sorry, but which 2-3 mods died with the announcement of M2TW? I believe all the medieval era mods continued to progress afterwards. Some of them eventually died, but that was probably due to lack of modders, not the announcement of M2TW. And sure, adherbal quitting was a BIG hit to CTW, but at no point was the mod dead.

[The Mongol]

I don't see another Rome coming after MTW2, but that's just my thoughts. It would be too close of a time interval imo.

I think they are going to do some sort of fantasy/mythological game next. Alot of people hope not but I would love to see what CA could do with it.

[xopium]

Sorry, but which 2-3 mods died with the announcement of M2TW? I believe all the medieval era mods continued to progress afterwards. Some of them eventually died, but that was probably due to lack of modders, not the announcement of M2TW. And sure, adherbal quitting was a BIG hit to CTW, but at no point was the mod dead.

Agreed, I think that Crusades and Chivalry make brilliant companions to MT2W. I don't believe MT2W makes a replacement for either.

If anything, IMO, I'm seeing that the unfinished Rome or before period mods have died because now a lot of the TW fanbase is shifting towards being orientated in the Medieval period rather than Classical...

[Scarlett Letterman]

Don't think there's much doubt itll be Napoleonic with naval battles and revised battle mechanics. It would follow CA's revolution-evolution process thus far (STW=Rev, MTW=Evo, Rtw=Rev, M2=Ev).

So whats the point of this thread? Your telling the NTW team not to bother with the mod?

[Boudicca]

Difficult question, fact is:

(1) They did Medieval Japan
(2) They did Medieval Europe (1066-1500s)
(3) They did Rome (280BC-480)

Now what remains...dark centuries from 480-800 A. D. in Europe does not seem that intersting. Neither does a mod on the times up to 1066.
They could do a Renaissance setting, but a map providing many unconquered territories at the beginning would only hardly be possible if they moved onwards.

They could do a greek, egypt, persian setting...but I am not sure those time periods would have that much attraction.
The conquest of america would not be too much total war.

They have a chance on taking the game to the Napoleonic setting, or to the U. S. in developement. However, they would need a theme with many factions to attract customers all over the world. I hardly think some indian tribes will fill the gap.

They could do china, however, they won't make much sales there...people with rather copy their game illegaly.

Shogun seems save, as it has had its customers in the past.

So I am not sure what they will do...but I think it will be a revolutionary engine and I hope naval battles will be in. No modder at date can be certain about what is going to come, so they will just have to go about their mods.

What I would love in modding would be that mods are made swifter. We had this with RTR in RTW. Version 1.0 was there rather swiftly and it went on and on, gradually improving. The time it took from 5.4.1 to 6.0 was quite long, 7.0 is still not ready. I took the greatest interest in the mod as long as it was following a development "among customers", meaning it was evolving with the community. That keeps me with a mod and on the pc. Once I have to wait 2years or so, things get more difficult. But I am going off topic.

[Pachinko]

Gosh, I wish.. Shogun II. I think it will be Shogun II..

[kid]

dunno. Never played Shogun, so I'd love a revisitation, but there are still plenty of raw historical settings to be seen. China (so many times to choose from), earlier Japan, India, Mongolia (the formation of the Empire), South America, Africa, Asia Minor in her golden age...

And one thing they can always do is expand. More medieval, larger area. The steppes, beyond the Sahara, India, etc... Frankly, I'd be a bit disappointed by a Napoleonic setting. It's nice, but I don't find it as interesting as some alternatives. Some of the pleasure I have from the Total War series is the learning, and while there is a lot to learn about Napoleon and his peers, I find the other settings far more interesting. Enough of the safe settings. Time for CA to be truly daring, I say.

[Valhalla89]

yea im quoting this from another similar thread but some there quoted a CA developer who said that they didnt have much interested in more gun based warfare and that they think the current systems of the day could not handel a TW engine based on a more gun oriented warfare....

Therefore i think there is a 70% chance of Shogun 2: Total War, a 20% chance of a "Fantasy Total War", and a 10% chance of something like Revolutionary Total War, with the French and American Revolutions/Colonization times... involving the americas, the norther/north western half of Africa, and the western half of Europe... I find that just as likely to happen as Napoleon Total War...

[Kushan]

So this lead to the unfortunate death of 2-3 mods (Chivalry's Adherbal's resignemnt comes to mind)...

I really dont see how the release of MTWII has caused the death of any mods? All its done is give mod teams a new game to mod (even port their mod to, if the choose to do so.)

As for the next TW game, personally I hope for either a remake of shogun, as I missed out on it the first time, or ancient/medieval China. But I think its way to early to even start speculating on this.

Kushan

[Marku]

i want a remake of Shogun or Rome(At some point)

fantasy seems to be circling in their minds at the moment if you watch their documentries.

[therussian]

yea im quoting this from another similar thread but some there quoted a CA developer who said that they didnt have much interested in more gun based warfare and that they think the current systems of the day could not handel a TW engine based on a more gun oriented warfare....

Yes, CA reps themselves said that any Napoleanic TW game in the (near) future was out of the question, because the TW system wouldn't be able to handle gunpowder based battles to well. Frankly, I don't see it happening.

[Gavmundo]

Most of the TW veterans will know me since the times of legiontotalwar....
At these distant times even before VI was released everyone had this idea stuck in their heads (me included): CA doest make remakes.
None expected Medieval2...
So this lead to the unfortunate death of 2-3 mods (Chivalry's Adherbal's resignemnt comes to mind)...
Now Ive read about couple of Roman mods for M2TW and thought, why none anticipates that there is a great probability for Rome2Total War?
Even worst a Napoleonic Total War made by CA would deliver a huge blow to the well known mod that bares that name...(one thing only: Naval Battles)...
So which mods "survived" the plunge? LotR mods, Shogun Mod and couple of RTW era mods...
For me any prospective modders should also analyze the potential investment of CA in the same field as their mod...
Im convinced that the next title of CA will be set in Napoleonic era with a 70% probability (Naval Battles, Revolutionary new Engine=Guns), leaving a 30% for an easy R2TW rehash...
History has VERY few truly diverse and "popular" (in the braindead hollywood sense) timelines....

Funny you should say that! I was just thinking about a Rome Total War 2 yesterday lol. For those who say its very doubtful ... the majority of people said a Second Medieval was also doubtful when it was discussed a long while before the announcement of its release. Course we'll be having an expansion to M2 first so by the time they are talking about the next project RTW will be rather dated and its quite possible it could have a re-hash! I hope so anyway! I'd love to see a vastly improved version in the future

As for mods dying. CTW certainly didn't die. Obviously the announcement of a second MTW was a bit of a blow but its not as if everyone is suddenly going to ditch RTW. Plenty of people will continue to play the mods. As we speak i'm downloading Crusader and I don't see why I can't play both!?

I just hope we don't see a Shogun Total War 2. I really don't like oriental history and would hate to see the next game limited to just a certain area such as Japan! I'd much prefer for the game to get bigger so you can see more of the world ala Europa Universalis but can't see that happening any time soon.

[Scarlett Letterman]

For those who say its very doubtful ... the majority of people said a Second Medieval was also doubtful when it was discussed a long while before the announcement of its release.

Thats just plain false. A majority did believe that M2TW was the most likely, while the rest held out hope for napoleonic, china and shogun total wars.

It made a lot of sense to do a sequel to MTW because of the jump to 3D. A sequel to RTW, atleast this soon, doesn't make as much sense.

If they do Shogun 2, they must expand the map to include China and korea etc. Just a map of Japan will feel like a expensive expansion pack.

[Gavmundo]

Thats just plain false. A majority did believe that M2TW was the most likely, while the rest held out hope for napoleonic, china and shogun total wars.

Not at all. Not on the websites I was looking on. I was one who said a second Medieval should be made and most said it wasn't likely and a Napoleonic or China total war was more likely.

[ablitzkrieg]

The Waring states period in China is Perfect..

Personally i'd like to see either a Shogun 2 or a napoleon era game. I already know the Lordz are getting ready for NTW3, and they wont have to work nearly as hard to make it than they did in RTW.