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    Default 40 Stack Armies?

    Is there a submod or some other way to make having 40 stack armies possible? I know that some DarthMod's had it as a feature.

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    Default Re: 40 Stack Armies?

    Quote Originally Posted by SacremPyrobolum View Post
    Is there a submod or some other way to make having 40 stack armies possible? I know that some DarthMod's had it as a feature.
    Check out the submod forum. Im quite sure there is a submod that does this.

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    Default Re: 40 Stack Armies?

    The way we used to do it was by changing a value in the saved file using EditSF 1.1.1, if you want to do it that way let me know, I'll list the procedure.

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    I normally play with 80 unit stack but I find the AI only creates stacks of 41-43 or so. How do I make it create large stacks? Can anyone please advise? I've been looking for a solution to this for over a year now. I am not too proud to beg! Which is not a pretty sight, I can assure you. =o}

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    Jesus christ, what's the bloody point of 80 unit stacks, that will assuredly make the game run like and unbalanced...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarkonRules View Post
    Jesus christ, what's the bloody point of 80 unit stacks, that will assuredly make the game run like and unbalanced...
    Not unbalanced per say, and performance-wise there is always a computer somewhere than can run it.

    Empire/Napoleon got lots of mods with increased stacks, since they are old and stable games I played with those a few times and I can tell you that it is very enjoyable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butan View Post
    Not unbalanced per say, and performance-wise there is always a computer somewhere than can run it.

    Empire/Napoleon got lots of mods with increased stacks, since they are old and stable games I played with those a few times and I can tell you that it is very enjoyable!
    I can understand 40 stack armies and that works well, but I've never heard of 80 stacks. Can't really imagine it being possible that any battle won't stutter if you zoom in to 160 units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarkonRules View Post
    I can understand 40 stack armies and that works well, but I've never heard of 80 stacks. Can't really imagine it being possible that any battle won't stutter if you zoom in to 160 units.
    It works ok. A little slower than normal but that's ok as I'm not into Benny Hill speed battles anyway. Now 100-160 unit stacks! That is slow and you have to turn all the gfx settings to medium or below, and give most of your commands in pause. Looks great when you see 4 whole Legions (25K+ men) marching though. =o)

    I used to regularly use 100+ stacks in Napoleon. 25K+ men per stack. Just about the right size for one of Napoleon's Corps. One restriction to both games is the small battle map size. It is far too small and should be two or four times bigger. It is too small in its current implementation for any real tactical maneuvers. 160 units can easily strech from red line to red line.
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    In the database find the table called "cdir_unit_balances_tables" it has a list of minimum and maximum units of each type, it could be that with all the maximums added up it only hits the 43 total mark, when we played 40 unit armies, I doubled all the maximums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonks40 View Post
    In the database find the table called "cdir_unit_balances_tables" it has a list of minimum and maximum units of each type, it could be that with all the maximums added up it only hits the 43 total mark, when we played 40 unit armies, I doubled all the maximums.
    I have done that too. To the dei_cdir_unit_balance_tables, but I am still not seeing AI stacks larger than 41. I do face 3-4 of them at times, so it kind of can make up for it.

    I'll keep searching for a way to make the AI recruit stacks of 80 units...

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    As far as I'm aware the EditSF method is the only way, unfortunately.
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    Default Re: 40 Stack Armies?

    Quote Originally Posted by SacremPyrobolum View Post
    Is there a submod or some other way to make having 40 stack armies possible? I know that some DarthMod's had it as a feature.
    Look for the sub-mod Fight Like A Man (FLAM).

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    40 unit armies in Napoleon was fantastic. It lent itself well to army balancing. It was nice to have a good ratio of men to cannon and have that many guns on the field.

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