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    Laetus
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    Default Question to historical sources- context of payment of armies

    Hello modding team, thx for this awesome mod, which makes me play Rome 2 now for 330+ hours.
    I would like to know, which historical sources are used in DEI to calculate the maintenance for the roman armies. Espescially the differences between the auxiliaries und regular legionaries.
    I know, there are many different opinions of various researchers:
    Auxiliaries earned for example "30% of the pay of a legionary", other sources talk about "four-fifths of the pay of a legionary...."

    Any informations for me on what historical sources you are relying?
    Couldnīt find informations about this in "historical research" subforum.
    THX in advance.

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    Default Re: Question to historical sources- context of payment of armies

    From what I understand the unit upkeep is designed for gameplay balance across all factions rather than strict historical realism.

    For example, how do we define unit upkeep for Germanic or Gallic factions historically? I am not aware of any historical sources that give in-depth accounts of their military organization (if they even had any to speak of), and from my understanding these factions would never have had standing armies at all.

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    Default Re: Question to historical sources- context of payment of armies

    Yes, at the moment 98% of the cost/upkeep is tailored around stats only (some special units have special costs like chariots/elephants/wardogs).
    So historicality has no place in DeI army paiement.
    But it does heavily in how the stats are defined

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    Default Re: Question to historical sources- context of payment of armies

    Quote Originally Posted by Butan View Post
    Yes, at the moment 98% of the cost/upkeep is tailored around stats only (some special units have special costs like chariots/elephants/wardogs).
    So historicality has no place in DeI army paiement.
    But it does heavily in how the stats are defined

    Hi Folks, thx for your answers. I opened this thread because i found this:

    https://www.academia.edu/8973684/Rom...es_and_answers

    You must scroll down few pages....
    Maybe it is possible to adapt this in any way for DEI (Augustus Campaign and/or grand campaign at Imperial reforms)?

    Perhaps I can help with this- itīs just a suggestion.

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    Default Re: Question to historical sources- context of payment of armies

    That could make for a neat submod, but remember that the income in Total War is entirely abstracted, so it wouldn't make much sense for expenditures to be based on real life . It would also throw the economies off-kilter, since we only have data for the Romans, and there are dozens of factions besides them.
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    Default Re: Question to historical sources- context of payment of armies

    In TW games economics are the same for all nations, hence you can't make nation specifix money/spendings as they all use the same numbers.

    In other words, they need to be balanced in exactly the same way and doing it via stats is the most fair of them all.
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