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    Default Carthaginian Mercenary Elephants (N. Africa)

    In my Carthaginian campaign, I noticed that I can recruit mercenary elephants in North Africa and they are only 13 upkeep when looking at the mercenary recruitment, and when actually recruited they are zero upkeep (I have a veteran with the army with -upkeep%). I can't imagine this is intended, so I wanted to bring it up for the development team.
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    Their faction upkeep negative combined with other negatives probably did that. I will possibly have to nerf one of those then.

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    Might it be because of some interaction with the Carthage -25% upkeep for mercs and elephants? I am guessing that means that mercs have 25% less upkeep and elephants have 25% less upkeep, but what if the merc is an elephant (as in OP's case)? I would assume that would be either roughly 40% less upkeep (.75*.75 is approximately .6) or 50% less upkeep (25% + 25%), but the two may be interacting in a weird way.

    I really hope you don't have to nerf Carthage's bonuses again.

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    The mercenary upkeep reduction is definitely OP even without the factional bonus. Also Carthage shouldn't get such an amazing reduction considering part of their downfall was NOT PAYING their mercs. Besides they already get factional mercenaries which is nice.

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    Default Re: Carthaginian Mercenary Elephants (N. Africa)

    Is it not possible to tailor a General's traits to be faction/culture specific ? Doing so would address overlapping faction-general bonuses, such as we are seeing with Carthage. But that would definitely be a lot PFM work I imagine lol cuz I imagine there would be ancillary traits to perhaps address as well.
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