Questions about traits - hidden, starting & effect limits

**Col.KanKrusha** · January 31, 2015, 02:17 PM

Hi all

I know we can only assign 3 traits, i was just wondering if that was 3 visible traits? In the PFM traits have a hidden box. i was wondering if we could use hidden traits to give characters more that 3 traits? Not sure i can quite think of a use for it yet but just wondering ...

**Magnar** · January 31, 2015, 03:48 PM

I think its only 3 active traits... hope im wrong

**Col.KanKrusha** · February 01, 2015, 08:42 PM

Thanks Magnar, i guess you say hope you are wrong so that no sneaky traits or effects are being added without you knowing

**Col.KanKrusha** · February 06, 2015, 08:09 PM

Rather than start a new thread I thought I'd ask a new question here. Is there a limit to the number of effects a trait can have? I am designing a mod where traits will have a large number of effects and I might be over the limit if there is one

**Magnar** · February 11, 2015, 02:37 PM

1) I hope im wrong becuase i want more than 3 traits to be active but dont think the system allows for it

2) you can have a lot, ive not hit a limit yet.

**Antiokhos Euergetes** · February 12, 2015, 04:47 AM

Sorry if I am hijacking this thread, but it does concern traits, specifically the immortality traits that Octavian, Marcus Antonius etc possess. Is there a way to remove these? If so where does one find them?
Thank you

**Col.KanKrusha** · February 12, 2015, 08:01 AM

Thanks magnar

those immortal traits are in the standard traits tables in the db. I am away from my computer but I am pretty sure they are assigned by scripting in the trigger effects Lua file which is in the Lua folder. The easiest thing to do would be to comment out the scripting. They are the first traits to be assigned so right at the top of the page

**Antiokhos Euergetes** · February 12, 2015, 12:45 PM

Thank you very much

**Col.KanKrusha** · February 13, 2015, 07:42 PM

apologies, not assigned in the scripting but it is a standard trait. if you look at the trait_level_effects table you will see them right at the top as gaul_dummy_general_inivicible traits

**Antiokhos Euergetes** · February 14, 2015, 02:12 AM

No problem, haven't got round to doing anything yet!

**Col.KanKrusha** · February 14, 2015, 12:20 PM

Have been playing with traits myself a bit more. I think your best bet is to go into the startpos.esf and remove those traits from the characters.

**Col.KanKrusha** · February 18, 2015, 02:06 AM

Hi all, new question. I am going a bit mental. I have created some lovely traits that work beautifully but many of the trait names and none of the trait descriptions are not showing.

I have created a new file in text/db called VG_character_trait_levels.loc

is there a second place I need to place the localised text? Or are there limits on text length i might be exceeding?

edit - I think I may have used unacceptable characters in the text. I will try fixing that

exit2 - sneaky typos in the trait name. However, original trait "descriptions"'still showing and none for my new traits. The localisation text must be listed elsewhere but where .. ???