Create specials generals models for subcultures

[Maréchal Christos Massilius]

Hi,

I need some help about specials generals skins for subcultures.
As example, Baktrians have their own generals models, but they are hellenistics, I want to do the same with egyptians and made a sort of mix between hellenistics and egyptians models for their commanders.

I already created some new units for them and I want now to give them specific commanders (as example with egyptian body and hellenistic armor etc...)

Can you help me and tell me what table(s) I need to edit to give them new commanders skins? It would be great

Thanks in advance and sorry for my english :s

PS: A little screenshot of one of units I create for egypt: pharaohs royal guard:

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[Linke]

If you're just doing a unit just create new officers.
Creating new sets of general I don't think has ever been done by modders, I for long assumed that it was tied to subcultures. And so I believed if you created a new subculture and then created a set of generals
with the first three letters of the subcultures name as prefix, then that would work.
However the fact that the Dacians and Thracians share subculture but not General sets makes that theory doubtable. You could still try as there is a chance.
I managed to change the Generals of a faction by changing either subculture or military group but I think it was the subculture. Note that I think you cant give a barbarian faction eastern generals as they must be within the Grand Culture, Hellenic,Barbarian,Eastern (I changed the Generals of an eastern faction to african) or Roman. What I am planning to do for my Egypt faction in Cyrus the Great Campaign is I'll give them the Baktrian or Pontos subculture and then reskin the Baktrian or Pontic generals.



Edit:
I did a test where I changed Egypts Subculture to Afro-Arabian, it was partly succesful but it should work with some changes.
First the starting generals all loked like the old ordinary greek generals, but the new generals I recruited all looked African Arabian.
There was also another problem, the buildings were messed up, but both of those problems happened becuase the Egypt faction is Hellenic but the african arabian subculture is classed as eastern, should be solved by giving them the baktrian subculture instead. And give Baktria the normal Hellenic subculture.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Are we talking about generals? or the units captain and standard bearer?

if its the last part, you can look on table:
land_units_officers_tables

and in land_units Column: Officers

[VINC.XXIII]

@OP, you need to observe What there is in Art SET tables( two or three tables)


Sorry, can't explain fully, I'm on I-pad its unbearable to write.

Btw, I mentionned the tables there, scroll to the second post
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...Random-General

Further, you can assign the new generals either to a specific faction, or to a specific subcultural group.

[M@x1mus]

@VINC.XXIII modding those tables can i make the general commanding a fleet to actualy been seen in his ship instead of the ship's officer variant representing the general?

[VINC.XXIII]

@VINC.XXIII modding those tables can i make the general commanding a fleet to actualy been seen in his ship instead of the ship's officer?

I haven't tested anything regarding admirals or land general on transport ships, best way is to test, and report your findings

[M@x1mus]

I will do. Thanks mate!

[Maréchal Christos Massilius]

I just success to do it, only some graphical bugs with egyptian bodies, but it's functionnal, I'll fix this later and explain you how to do

Thanks for help.

[Linke]

Wait can I create entirely new sets?

[Maréchal Christos Massilius]

Nice to hear! Well done!

Hehe, thank you

Wait can I create entirely new sets?

Yes we can, here some screenshot, as you can see I must fix two things now, egyptian bodies for campaign map (T pose bug) and generals names, they are always hellenics

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[VINC.XXIII]

(@Marechal, tu ne peux pas utiliser le même modèle 3D pour la bataille et la carte, il te faut prendre un général oriental et lui refiler des vêtements égyptiens, c'est lié au squelette et l'animation inhérente à ce même squelette.)

[Maréchal Christos Massilius]

(@Marechal, tu ne peux pas utiliser le même modèle 3D pour la bataille et la carte, il te faut prendre un général oriental et lui refiler des vêtements égyptiens, c'est lié au squelette et l'animation inhérente à ce même squelette.)

@VINC.XXIII T'inquiètes pas j'ai déjà la solution, je vais reprendre les modeles orientaux et leur appliquer les textures egyptiennes

EDIT: "T pose" bug fixed i must find now how to add egyptians names

Some W.I.P screenshots:

Campaign map:

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General & bodyguards on battle map:

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[Miri82]

@VINC.XXIII T'inquiètes pas j'ai déjà la solution, je vais reprendre les modeles orientaux et leur appliquer les textures egyptiennes

EDIT: "T pose" bug fixed i must find now how to add egyptians names

Some W.I.P screenshots:

Campaign map:

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General & bodyguards on battle map:

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How you fixed the T pose??

[Maréchal Christos Massilius]

How you fixed the T pose??

I simply use egyptians textures on eastern models.

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Here some screenshots with progress:

Campaign map:

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Battle map:

General & egyptian chariots unit:

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General & pharaohs royal guard:

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A lot of graphical improvements, but i always looking for a solution to add egyptians names, if anyone know the solution, it's welcome! Thank you

[Linke]

Can I use those retextured Egyptian assets for my mod?

[M@x1mus]

@Christos, @VINC.XXIII,@Linke So is it possible in Wos to add generals or make some of the existed, to spawn only for Ionian or Dorian subcult?
VINC i open some of the tables you mentioned with the hex editor but how can i modify them? for example if i want to modify a general in campaign_character art sets,
to be recruited only by Korinthos instead of Sparta, i cant because if i change Pel_Sparta to Pel_Korinthos or whatever, i change the file size and it doesn't work..

[VINC.XXIII]

for character names, I succeeded to make my own for two factions. But its very messy when its comes to update it cause of CA patches... Good luck with it Maréchal

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ial-Experiment

[Maréchal Christos Massilius]

for character names, I succeeded to make my own for two factions. But its very messy when its comes to update it cause of CA patches... Good luck with it Maréchal

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ial-Experiment

Ah thank you! That already give me a begining, i'll try this and give you a feedback later