Attila Computer & Hardware Recommendations

[alQamar]

to all readers of this thread, if you must get a maxwell, wait a few months and get the 980 in june for 300$. never upgrade at the end of a cycle, especially when the next cycle offers like 50%(380x, 390x) increase in performance. you are gonna kick yourself for listening to super bad advice coming from the likes of post #118.

I said it already that this or next year will UNLEASH a lot of GPU power, like DirectX, 3D VRAM on GPU die, DDR4, next gen CPUs etc. so this is probably why CA bother to put the limits beyond anything buyable at the moment.

The combination of ALL these technologies I am currently aware and informed of, will certainly double or triple the performance of existing games! (marketing overhead already substracted )

We'll see. When I (eventually) pick up Attila, I plan to thoroughly test the variety of settings and their impact. IME, typically the differences between adjacent tiers aren't as drastic as we expect.

It would be please if we could work together here as I am setting up the next Benchmark thread as I did for Shogun 2 and Rome 2.

[Totalheadache]

I said it already that this or next year will UNLEASH a lot of GPU power, like DirectX, 3D VRAM on GPU die, DDR4, next gen CPUs etc. so this is probably why CA bother to put the limits beyond anything buyable at the moment.

The combination of ALL these technologies I am currently aware and informed of, will certainly double or triple the performance of existing games!

cmon double or triple since when mein herr? 50% more or less....

unless u know something I dont...

[alQamar]

cmon double or triple since when mein herr? 50% more or less....

unless u know something I dont...

Well perhaps, but I know you are usually very much informed. I just browsed some tech sheets where nvidia gives some early tech specs about the benefits of 3D VRAM and how it actually works.
Then we have some good figures about what DX 12 does actually deliver (in its not final state). These two technologies alone will considerably revolution gaming, not just evolving it, except they really go the wrong way to sacrifice the cash cow and ship it in slices. I very much doubt this will happen as the developers need more ressources but given the market situation and the sheer domination of Intel and Nvidia, it might happen they won't unleash all at once.
Then we have DDR4, which is still at the beginning of the cycle so costs and speeds, and much more interesting the next gen RAM, which will start a whole new cycle of RAM memory (by 2016/2017) also in terms of performance.
We'll see.

[The Wandering Storyteller]

So my spec

I5 3570 intel core
GTX 760
RAM: 15.95 GB.

This enough to run ATW?

[Seifen]

WARNING to everyone thinking of upgrading to a mid/high card such as the 680, 760, 770, 960, r9 280, r9 280x.

CA has made a troublesome statement in this forum (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...mp-Performance) concerning performance for TW: Attila.
It seems that the current abysmal performance observed in preview benchmarks are representative of the release build and that this is intended by CA.

It is very puzzling why Attila would perform significantly worse than Rome 2 as it doesn't look noticeably better, the world map does indeed look nicer but that has to do with artstyle and not new technology.

CA needs to retract their statement and start optimising the game, it needs to be done THIS month and not in a year.

The recommendations in this thread are outdated because of this and need to be edited in the first post as fast as possible for TW players looking to upgrade their system.

[kamikazee786]

WARNING to everyone thinking of upgrading to a mid/high card such as the 680, 760, 770, 960, r9 280, r9 280x.

CA has made a troublesome statement in this forum (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...mp-Performance) concerning performance for TW: Attila.
It seems that the current abysmal performance observed in preview benchmarks are representative of the release build and that this is intended by CA.

It is very puzzling why Attila would perform significantly worse than Rome 2 as it doesn't look noticeably better, the world map does indeed look nicer but that has to do with artstyle and not new technology.

CA needs to retract their statement and start optimising the game, it needs to be done THIS month and not in a year.

The recommendations in this thread are outdated because of this and need to be edited in the first post as fast as possible for TW players looking to upgrade their system.

Your'e right !

Hi guys!

There’s a few threads popping up with people worried about their kit running the game, we just wanted to clear up a couple of misconceptions that might help you out.

1) The “Recommended Spec” is not the spec that is required to run the game on full max quality settings at 1440p. It is a spec which we believe gives you a good experience of the game as we’d recommend it is played. If you have better hardware you will get better results.

There are 5 quality presents you can select in Total War: ATTILA (you can always go into ‘Advanced’ and tweak yourself of course).

• ‘Max Performance’ – integrated chipsets and older cards
• ‘Performance’ – low end cards
• ‘Quality’– mid range cards
• ‘Max Quality’ – high end cards
• ‘Extreme Quality’ – future cards – no card is set to this out of the box

The official “Recommended Spec” is pegged to the ‘Quality’ setting at 1080p ‘out of the box’.

‘Extreme Quality’ also activates 4XMSAA, which will have a particularly big performance impact. Please note, that the ‘Extreme Quality’ setting is meant for future graphics cards, not for current gen. This is why it's above Maximum Quality.

[kamikazee786]

Sorry, site went offline, double posted by mistake

[SPARTAN VI]

I know the "in" thing to do is to hate on anything coming out of CA right now, and most of those sentiments echo my own. I will not be purchasing Attila until I see community feedback. What I can't do is let FUD like this go by unchecked:

WARNING to everyone thinking of upgrading to a mid/high card such as the 680, 760, 770, 960, r9 280, r9 280x.

CA has made a troublesome statement in this forum (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...mp-Performance) concerning performance for TW: Attila.
It seems that the current abysmal performance observed in preview benchmarks are representative of the release build and that this is intended by CA.

I don't see a problem with CA's announcement. They included a setting that current hardware isnt fully capable of running smoothly. So we want to criticize them for forward-thinking? Crytek did this with Crysis 1 a while back, and got lambasted for "poor optimisation" too. That game was beautiful, and I suspect this one will be too.

It is very puzzling why Attila would perform significantly worse than Rome 2 as it doesn't look noticeably better, the world map does indeed look nicer but that has to do with artstyle and not new technology.

CA needs to retract their statement and start optimising the game, it needs to be done THIS month and not in a year.

The recommendations in this thread are outdated because of this and need to be edited in the first post as fast as possible for TW players looking to upgrade their system.

This is a bold claim without any supporting evidence or credentials. What makes you think the game is more hardware intensive purely because of the art style and not technology? Did you have access to assets that the rest of us do not? From the footage I saw, I noticed a considerable increase in particle effects (e.g. fire, smoke, etc.), which aint free or cheap to render. How about the details in the cities? I noticed civilians walking about and all sorts of doodads to make the environment look and feel like a warzone; that isn't free either.

I have many complaints about the state of Total War and how these past couple of installments have tarnished its legacy, but its visuals are certainly not among them.

[Totalheadache]

I know the "in" thing to do is to hate on anything coming out of CA right now, and most of those sentiments echo my own. I will not be purchasing Attila until I see community feedback. What I can't do is let FUD like this go by unchecked:



I don't see a problem with CA's announcement. They included a setting that current hardware isnt fully capable of running smoothly. So we want to criticize them for forward-thinking? Crytek did this with Crysis 1 a while back, and got lambasted for "poor optimisation" too. That game was beautiful, and I suspect this one will be too.



This is a bold claim without any supporting evidence or credentials. What makes you think the game is more hardware intensive purely because of the art style and not technology? Did you have access to assets that the rest of us do not? From the footage I saw, I noticed a considerable increase in particle effects (e.g. fire, smoke, etc.), which aint free or cheap to render. How about the details in the cities? I noticed civilians walking about and all sorts of doodads to make the environment look and feel like a warzone; that isn't free either.

I have many complaints about the state of Total War and how these past couple of installments have tarnished its legacy, but its visuals are certainly not among them.

Quite a few people werent sucked in by the "Crisis" arguement.

Oh wait it's so beautifull what we are trying to do..it neeed time etc etc.

I tell you what. Baloney. How about here and now? That's all I care about.

I dont mind about future products/plans etc but the base/platform has to be there otherwise I could say its all hot guff. Pure and simple.

You can fool some people sometime but you cant fool all the people all the time.

I spotted this yrs ago with total wars and perf...yrs....

I pay good money for my hardware and if game devs cant meet a certain standard well it's adios. Such is life no?

[SPARTAN VI]

doube post

[Davincee]

Okay guys REALLY need your help here! I got 400-450 euros (450-510$) to spend and improve this PC for Attila. (My friend has a windows 64 bit install so that wont cost anything if thats an issue)


Intel core 2 QUAD CPU Q6700 2.66 Ghz

3 GB RAM

ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series

I would be soooo happy if someone could help me with this, as I want to enjoy Attila at the speed Rome 1 had.. Or am i just better off selling this PC and buying a new one with the extra money?

[Totalheadache]

Okay guys REALLY need your help here! I got 400-450 euros (450-510$) to spend and improve this PC for Attila. (My friend has a windows 64 bit install so that wont cost anything if thats an issue)


Intel core 2 QUAD CPU Q6700 2.66 Ghz

3 GB RAM

ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series

I would be soooo happy if someone could help me with this, as I want to enjoy Attila at the speed Rome 1 had.. Or am i just better off selling this PC and buying a new one with the extra money?

Sell it and build a new one.

[Davincee]

Sell it and build a new one.

How much money would my current PC fetch generally and how much do you estimate would a good gaming PC cost?

[Totalheadache]

How much money would my current PC fetch generally and how much do you estimate would a good gaming PC cost?

Sorry to say not much...try on sites like guru3d/tomshardware/anandtech you can sell stuff..but you do need a certain amount of posts.

Look on ebay to see how much your parts sell for?

And a decent enough gaming pc including a monitor is doable for around £500 but i'd say £750 much better (i mean you should get a decentish screen and the pc should be sound). I mean if you think a decent 1080p or 24inch is around the £200 mark....

It does depend on what levels of AA you want to run. x2 aa with med/high settings on 1080p is about what i'd reckon for a very good experience...(well the difference going up to say 1920x1200 means a step up in the gpu..so you are looking at another £150 min).

[Seifen]

1) TW: Attila's benchmark is the Battle of Londinium (battle map). I mentioned the campaign map because it is the only obvious graphical improvement* compared to Rome 2, one will have a hard time finding a person that thinks the battle map is a noticeable improvement over Rome 2's.

*Shogun 2's campaign map was improved with Rise of the Samurai (an expansion akin to Attila), in that case however there was no noticeable hit on performance. These games run on the same engine.

2) The point of this thread is hardware recommendation. Currently a 760 is recommended for Ultra settings (bar AA and filters (?)) which is not the case if the benchmarks hold true.

There seem to be some harsh responses to what I said. I don't know what FUD means but according to Urbandictionary it is enough for me to ignore this person.
Please do not quote me ever again.

[Huberto]

Okay guys REALLY need your help here! I got 400-450 euros (450-510$) to spend and improve this PC for Attila. (My friend has a windows 64 bit install so that wont cost anything if thats an issue)


Intel core 2 QUAD CPU Q6700 2.66 Ghz

3 GB RAM

ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series

I would be soooo happy if someone could help me with this, as I want to enjoy Attila at the speed Rome 1 had.. Or am i just better off selling this PC and buying a new one with the extra money?

That's an old rig. I doubt you could get more than $50 for it. Might consider donating it to a worthy cause. $500 is tough to build a gaming rig -- if you could find $300 more you could do it, assuming you have a decent monitor. I would take your situation to the basement section of this forum and ask there.

[craziii]

"here and now" is about as stupid as it gets in a thread like this.

who here wants to spend 350$ on a gpu just for 1 game? who here builds a 1000 to 2000$ gaming pc just for 1 game? who?

just to clarify, I am talking about 290x lightning(best after market cooler there is) vs 970 not 290. 290 can be had for as low as 230 - 240 right now.

[alQamar]

who here wants to spend 350$ on a gpu just for 1 game? who here builds a 1000 to 2000$ gaming pc just for 1 game? who?

Believe me based on the Rome 2 HW recommendation thread a lot people do this, while 2000$ builds are considerably rare.

[Jopel]

Believe me based on the Rome 2 HW recommendation thread a lot people do this, while 2000$ builds are considerably rare.

LOL I agree, build my whole setup (see sig) for Rome II alone

[SPARTAN VI]

Believe me based on the Rome 2 HW recommendation thread a lot people do this, while 2000$ builds are considerably rare.

Same, I may play a ton of different games, but I upgraded for Rome 2. Everything else is secondary.