Attila Computer & Hardware Recommendations

[alQamar]

I have Core i7 4790K, 16 GB of RAM and Geforce 980 GTX. I play Rome 2 Total War on Extreme/Ultra and I don't expect any problems with Attila. I hope Attila Total War would be 64-bit game.

Well of course you should be able to play Attila and Rome 2 on high settings, while I still want to point out that Ultra or Extreme presets are not the highest settings possible, so it is rather ashaming that you don't max out Rome 2 for sake of more performance with your powerful build.

TW Attila is not a 64bit engine, this can be firmly excluded regarding the system requirements still allow a 32 bit OS. I hope that TW Warhammer will support only 64bit and still I think it needs a new engine, too because of the unit and battle engine that has higher unit diversity. My hope rely on the information that the Warhammer team is a complete different Team to TW Rome 2 / Attila, so the chance they are also crafting a new engine is very likely.

[arias502]

Hi guys:

First time posting to the forum and also my first time trying to build a custom gaming PC. I wanted to post my configuration to see if it would work as well as any recommendations that you may have. I was hoping to build a PC to run Attila on either High or Ultra settings. So far the build is around $1700.

The build is as follows:

Intel Core i7-5820K Haswell-E 3.3GHz (3.6GHz turbo) Six-Core Prosessor
Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, 4 Copper Heat Pipes, Extra Quiet CPU fan
ASRock X99 Extreme3, X99, 3way X-Fire & SLI, GB LAN, USB3.0
16GB (4x4GB) PC4-17000 DDR4 2133MHz Quad Channel
GeForce GTX 960 2GB PCI EXpress 16X quad head, HDMI
2TB SSHD Seagate Solid State Hybrid Drive SATA3 6GB/s 64m cache
Hard Drive Cooling Fan Aluminum Internal
LG 22x DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW
Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Ethernet network adapter (onboard)
Apevia X-Dreamer-4 Black and Blue, front USB 2.0 & 3.0, Temp. display, Hot swap HDD
Case Fan 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan
Apevia 700W Extra Quiet Power Supply SLI & X-fire ready

Thanks for the help!!!

[Biggus Splenus]

Apparently I totally missed the news about the warhammer game :O sounds cool.

I think I will update the first 2 builds to include an i3, but just remember that I'd have to add about another $280 on top of that for the OS, peripherals and monitor... already sounds like too much money for an entry level PC.

[Biggus Splenus]

I've updated the 3rd tier. I was conflicted with which GPU to pick, because the 760 isn't produced any more; the new 960 was just introduced but the cost of the card is very high in some countries (including mine); the 270 and 270X are so similarly priced and perform so similarly... Nvidia's only card being produced at around the same price (in most countries) is the 750Ti...

Give feedback, I need it on this one Also, I feel like there isn't a large enough increment between this and last tier (not even $100), maybe we should improve more?

[Zipzopdippidybopbop]

Just ordered this (for other games, not just Attila - my rig is ageing anyway):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£244.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 U3 Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£75.90 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£62.68 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (£255.59 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 White ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.96 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £684.07

Plan now is to add my Corsair CX600 to this to complete the set. How do you think this will perform?

[Zipzopdippidybopbop]

Just ordered this (for other games, not just Attila - my rig is ageing anyway):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£244.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 U3 Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£75.90 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£62.68 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (£255.59 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 White ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.96 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £684.07

Plan now is to add my Corsair CX600 to this to complete the set. How do you think this will perform?

Could somebody be so kind as to assess this setup, please. I wouldn't mind knowing if it will be able to run the game on Max specs....

[Totalheadache]

Could somebody be so kind as to assess this setup, please. I wouldn't mind knowing if it will be able to run the game on Max specs....

cant answer that without knowing your resolution(screen)...

(but still a nice upgrade).

p.s check here could be usefull http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...-review,1.html

[Biggus Splenus]

Could somebody be so kind as to assess this setup, please. I wouldn't mind knowing if it will be able to run the game on Max specs....

The i7 is unnecessary, you'd be better going for a 4690K. The graphics card could max out the game at 1080p, probably even 1440p. It's a great system but I'd prefer an ASUS motherboard (I'll link a few videos as to why), and a better case, like the ones recommended in the OP. You'd also need a PSU, which I wouldn't recommend the CX600 he already has, look in the OP again for suggestions.

EDIT: The video for motherboards:

[JVR]

dude that will crush any current game 60 fps+

MSI Gaming 970
16GB Hyper X Fury
GTX 750Ti
AMD FX 9590 @ 4.7 ghz

.....hopeing to upgrade the card soon but i crush rome 2 on max setting, handles great, looking forward to Attila

Could somebody be so kind as to assess this setup, please. I wouldn't mind knowing if it will be able to run the game on Max specs....

i wouldnt cheap out on your motherboard, also your gonna want a decent psu to run the beast card, also you gotta remember that your case may have extra fans and lights and what not...these all draw power, try a psu calculator online to make sure you are in the right range, also be aware of the levels of psu's, get post near the begining of this thread tells about psu's

[Biggus Splenus]

i wouldnt cheap out on your motherboard, also your gonna want a decent psu to run the beast card, also you gotta remember that your case may have extra fans and lights and what not...these all draw power, try a psu calculator online to make sure you are in the right range, also be aware of the levels of psu's, get post near the begining of this thread tells about psu's

The motherboard is a little cheap, I'll link a better one soon (ASUS of course ) . Usually the motherboard is the best place to "cheap out" if it's needed anywhere, but of course the best option is always to balance everything. His 600W psu is enough to power the entire system, there's no need to worry about that (only if it's all on a single 12v rail, I'll do some research on that ).

[craziii]

Could somebody be so kind as to assess this setup, please. I wouldn't mind knowing if it will be able to run the game on Max specs....

get the 290x. 970 n it's 3.5 gb vram. with the current price cut, it is now 30 to 50$ cheaper than 970. just make sure you have a 600 watt or better psu.

[Totalheadache]

get the 290x. 970 n it's 3.5 gb vram. with the current price cut, it is now 30 to 50$ cheaper than 970. just make sure you have a 600 watt or better psu.

still wouldnt get a 290x....but yeah the price cuts has made it a harder choice. The ram thing is overhyped...well hasnt made any effect to me...

p.s you are only talking one game atm in ultra @1440p. (which shows a perf decrease).

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=396620

[craziii]

still wouldnt get a 290x....but yeah the price cuts has made it a harder choice. The ram thing is overhyped...well hasnt made any effect to me...

p.s you are only talking one game atm in ultra @1440p. (which shows a perf decrease).

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=396620

I 100% stand by my 970 comment. with how lazy game devs are with pc ports, vram requirements will only get higher. the more you have the better.

[alQamar]

We should wait and see what's the outcoming of the GTX 970 affair, I doubt that Nvidia will be able to shut down the people and good portion do already consider a partly cashback or complete refund.
At the moment, I would not be surprised if the GTX 970 prices will fall a good portion now that this "fraud" has been revealed.

Amazon Germany offers 50 € cashback or complete refund at the moment, because Nvidia tricked around with the tech specs of the card, the coil noise problems come on top of that.

[tungri_centurio]

why are there no soundcards in the recommended builds?

[Biggus Splenus]

Sound cards are pointless to have unless you actually need a quality sound chip eg. professionally. Vast majority of people don't need a dedicated sound card, and majority of people wouldn't notice the difference, so I thought the money could be better spent elsewhere.

[alQamar]

Sound cards are pointless to have unless you actually need a quality sound chip eg. professionally. Vast majority of people don't need a dedicated sound card, and majority of people wouldn't notice the difference, so I thought the money could be better spent elsewhere.

very much this. A good soundcard would add up the prices starting from 60-120 €. Then most of the soundcards available have a lack of qualified driver support for OS like Windows 8 and 10.
True said, the driver model since Windows Vista has not change much, so basically Vista drivers would still work on Windows 10, but often enough old soundcard drivers cause problems like crackling, being able to hear your equipment inside your computer working, esp. harddisks, or even instabilities and bluescreens as a last resort.

So named Asus and Creative still offer only BETA drivers and software for their products, if one is using a Windows beyond Windows 7. This is really ridicilous in terms of how much these cards cost.
Especially my experience with Creative Labs is an ambigous one and broke up all my trust for this company. You have to know, that I bought my first Soundblaster 2 at the age of 11 and since then ever used their cards till 2012.

The technical support for many Creative soundcards have been dumped since Vista while technically they could still work with Windows 7, 8 and 10, Creative Labs saved themself the costs to release working compatible drivers.


If the drivers are appropriate you'll hear a lot of difference with a good headset or even dolby digital certified speakers etc. If anyone feels a need a to have this, he can choose between a few cards only. In terms of driver support you have the choice between plague and cholera literally spoken. Well, they do work, hence selling high end products based on beta drivers, for the long term, and never going to release finished drivers is ashaming and does also reflect a bit how unimportant the market for PC / Laptops etc have become.

Technically the onboard soundcard are tied to PCI-Express, same as the dedicated soundcards, so the major difference are the codecs, amplifier and quality of analog / digital (AD) switch.

Realtek HD chipsets, implemented on quite every mainboard see regularly and finalized driver updates in opposite of that. From my very own experience I can say there is a quality difference, even using a headset, yet most the games do not support better cards at all. The time when developers deliberately put effort into sound design and using features like 3DSound or the later EAX technology have passed. Today most of the game developers, including CA do use free or cheap codecs like Miles, OGG, MP4 etc.

tldr: dedicated soundcards are worth a buy for audiophile people but they should consider that the driver and software support lacks, compared to onboard soundcards.
tldr2: Even with the many post-processing effects available on dedicated soundcards - the original Rome 2 soundtrack still not sounds awesome.

[Biggus Splenus]

tldr2: Even with the many post-processing effects available on dedicated soundcards - the original Rome 2 soundtrack still not sounds awesome.

This

[shogon]

Sound cards are pointless to have unless you actually need a quality sound chip eg. professionally. Vast majority of people don't need a dedicated sound card, and majority of people wouldn't notice the difference, so I thought the money could be better spent elsewhere.

They are only pointless if one has really low quality speakers or headphones, if one has something that can actually benefit from a sound card / DAC the sound quality will improve. At the end of the day though you'd only need a soundcard if you have tons of flac files and enjoy listening to music, for Rome 2 I wouldn't even consider it.

[Biggus Splenus]

Currently running.

GTX 770 AMP Edition
i5-2500k 4.7Ghz
8Gb RAM 1666mhz or whatever. Will upgrade to DDR4 when changing CPU.

Just bought GTX 980 I noticed that the legendary i5-2500k is still the best CPU. Maybe I upgrade when 5th gen Broadwell or 6th gen Skylake is coming. Anyway I hope the game will go more smoothly in the larger battles with GTX 980.

The 2500K is fairly dated now and definitely not the best still. The GTX 770 is still a great card, and that's not the reason why your system was slowing down on large battles, it's because of your CPU (which is responsible for managing the thousands of entities on the battlefield). You should consider refunding/changing your order, you'll get a MUCH better improvement from upgrading your CPU (if you want to wait for Broadwell or not). I have the 4670K and never experience performance dips.

They are only pointless if one has really low quality speakers or headphones, if one has something that can actually benefit from a sound card / DAC the sound quality will improve. At the end of the day though you'd only need a soundcard if you have tons of flac files and enjoy listening to music, for Rome 2 I wouldn't even consider it.

Exactly. These are gaming PC